Launch Setback, Celestial Wonders, and the Allure of Astrophotography
Astronomy Daily: Space News UpdatesOctober 20, 2025x
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Launch Setback, Celestial Wonders, and the Allure of Astrophotography

  • Arianespace Launch Delay: Arianespace has quietly postponed the inaugural flight of its powerful Orion 64 rocket to 2026, a significant shift from its initial late 2025 schedule. This delay impacts Amazon's Project Cooper satellite constellation, which aims to compete with SpaceX's Starlink, highlighting the challenges of securing reliable launch providers in the competitive space market.
  • Mysterious Interstellar Object: The interstellar object 3I ATLAS is perplexing scientists by emitting nickel tetracarbonyl, a compound never before observed in nature. Unlike typical comets, this object is ejecting material towards the Sun, defying known cometary physics and raising questions about its origins, including the possibility of artificiality.
  • Gamma Ray Glow Debate: Astronomers are revisiting the source of a puzzling gamma ray glow from the Milky Way's center. Recent simulations suggest that a clumpy distribution of dark matter could be responsible, reinforcing the theory that dark matter particles may annihilate and produce detectable gamma rays, adding complexity to the ongoing debate.
  • Double Comet Viewing Opportunity: Stargazers can look forward to a rare sight as Comet LEMMON and Comet Swan approach Earth on October 20. Both comets will be visible with binoculars or small telescopes, and live streams of the event will be available for those unable to observe directly. https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/webtv/
  • https://www.youtube.com/@GianMasiVirtualTelescope/streams
  • Best Space Photography Resources: For breathtaking space photography, listeners are encouraged to explore official agency websites like NASA and the European Space Agency, as well as community platforms such as Reddit's r/Astrophotography and AstroDailyPod Bin, where amateur astrophotographers share their stunning work and contribute to citizen science projects.
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  • Thank you for tuning in. This is Anna and Avery signing off. Until next time, keep looking up and exploring the wonders of our universe.
✍️ Episode References
Arianespace Orion 64 Launch Delay
[Arianespace](https://www.arianespace.com/)
3I ATLAS Interstellar Object
[NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/)
Gamma Ray Glow Research
[Astrophysical Journal](https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/0004-637X)
Double Comet Viewing Guide
[Comet Watch] https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/webtv/
Astrophotography Resources 
[AstroDailyPod Bin](https://www.astrodailypodbin.com/)
Astronomy Daily
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 Avery: Hello, and welcome to Astronomy Daily, the

00:00:02 --> 00:00:05 podcast that brings you the universe, one

00:00:05 --> 00:00:07 story at a time. I'm Avery.

00:00:07 --> 00:00:10 Anna: And I'm Anna. It's great to have you with us.

00:00:10 --> 00:00:12 we've got a fascinating lineup today, from a

00:00:12 --> 00:00:15 mysterious interstellar object, baffling

00:00:15 --> 00:00:18 scientists to the quiet delay of a major

00:00:18 --> 00:00:19 rocket launch.

00:00:19 --> 00:00:21 Avery: Plus, we'll dive into the ongoing debate

00:00:21 --> 00:00:23 about a strange glow at the heart of our

00:00:23 --> 00:00:26 galaxy, tell you how to spot a rare double

00:00:26 --> 00:00:29 comet, and share the best places to find

00:00:29 --> 00:00:31 breathtaking space photography online. Let's

00:00:31 --> 00:00:32 get started.

00:00:33 --> 00:00:35 Anna: First up, a, significant development in the

00:00:35 --> 00:00:38 world of commercial spaceflight. Avery,

00:00:38 --> 00:00:41 it looks like Arianespace is facing a

00:00:41 --> 00:00:43 setback with its new heavy lifter.

00:00:43 --> 00:00:45 Avery: That's right, Anna. the first flight of the

00:00:45 --> 00:00:48 powerful 4 booster variant, the Orion

00:00:48 --> 00:00:51 64 has been quietly pushed back to

00:00:51 --> 00:00:53 2026. This was initially slated for

00:00:53 --> 00:00:56 late 2025, and it's a pretty big deal

00:00:56 --> 00:00:59 because this rocket is tasked with launching

00:00:59 --> 00:01:01 a significant portion of Amazon's Project

00:01:01 --> 00:01:03 Cooper satellite constellation.

00:01:04 --> 00:01:07 Anna: Project Cooper is Amazon's answer to

00:01:07 --> 00:01:09 SpaceX's Starlink, right? A

00:01:09 --> 00:01:12 huge network of Internet satellites in low

00:01:12 --> 00:01:12 Earth orbit.

00:01:13 --> 00:01:15 Avery: Exactly. And securing launch providers is one

00:01:15 --> 00:01:17 of the biggest hurdles for these mega

00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 constellations. The Orion 6IV is the key

00:01:20 --> 00:01:22 part of Amazon's strategy. The delay wasn't

00:01:22 --> 00:01:24 announced with the big press release. It was

00:01:24 --> 00:01:27 just updated on the Arianespace website,

00:01:27 --> 00:01:29 which suggests they're trying to manage

00:01:29 --> 00:01:30 expectations.

00:01:31 --> 00:01:33 Anna: It really highlights the immense complexity

00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 of developing these new launch vehicles. Even

00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 for established players like Arianespace,

00:01:39 --> 00:01:41 delays are almost part of the process.

00:01:42 --> 00:01:44 It'll be interesting to see how this affects

00:01:44 --> 00:01:46 Amazon's deployment timeline for project

00:01:47 --> 00:01:47 cooperation.

00:01:48 --> 00:01:50 Avery: It certainly will. Amazon has regulatory

00:01:50 --> 00:01:52 deadlines to meet for deploying half of its

00:01:52 --> 00:01:55 constellation by 2026. While they

00:01:55 --> 00:01:56 have launches booked with other providers

00:01:56 --> 00:01:59 like ULA and Blue origin, the Orion 6IV

00:01:59 --> 00:02:02 was a major pillar of their strategy. This

00:02:02 --> 00:02:04 forces them to reshuffle an already complex

00:02:04 --> 00:02:05 launch manifest.

00:02:06 --> 00:02:09 Anna: Absolutely. It's a critical moment. A delay

00:02:09 --> 00:02:11 of even a few months can have significant

00:02:11 --> 00:02:14 ripple effects in this highly competitive

00:02:14 --> 00:02:16 market. They need to demonstrate reliability

00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 and get their flight cadence up to speed to

00:02:19 --> 00:02:22 secure future contracts. We'll definitely be

00:02:22 --> 00:02:24 keeping a close eye on how this develops.

00:02:24 --> 00:02:27 Avery: And what does this mean for Ariane space? The

00:02:27 --> 00:02:29 Ariane 5 was a workhorse for decades, but the

00:02:29 --> 00:02:32 market has changed dramatically. Is this a

00:02:32 --> 00:02:35 critical moment for them? Time will tell.

00:02:35 --> 00:02:36 Alright.

00:02:36 --> 00:02:38 From engineering challenges here in our solar

00:02:38 --> 00:02:41 system to a deep mystery from beyond it, our

00:02:41 --> 00:02:43 next story is an update about an interstellar

00:02:43 --> 00:02:46 object that is breaking all the rules.

00:02:46 --> 00:02:49 It's named 3i ATLS.

00:02:50 --> 00:02:52 Anna: This sounds exciting. What makes it so

00:02:52 --> 00:02:55 unusual? It's not our first interstellar

00:02:55 --> 00:02:56 visitor, is it?

00:02:56 --> 00:02:59 Avery: No, but this one is behaving very strangely.

00:02:59 --> 00:03:01 Spectrometers have detected it emitting a

00:03:01 --> 00:03:04 compound called nickel tetracarbonyl.

00:03:04 --> 00:03:07 For context, this compound has never been

00:03:07 --> 00:03:09 seen occurring in nature before. On Earth,

00:03:09 --> 00:03:12 it's used in industrial processes to refine

00:03:12 --> 00:03:13 nickel.

00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 Anna: Wow. Okay. An industrial

00:03:16 --> 00:03:18 chemical in space. That is

00:03:19 --> 00:03:22 bizarre. Is there a natural explanation?

00:03:23 --> 00:03:25 Avery: That's the multi billion dollar question.

00:03:25 --> 00:03:28 Scientists are stumped. It gets weirder too.

00:03:28 --> 00:03:31 Unlike a typical comet that ejects M material

00:03:31 --> 00:03:33 away from the sun due TO solar wind,

00:03:33 --> 00:03:36 3I ATLAS is ejecting material

00:03:36 --> 00:03:38 towards the sun. It's defying our

00:03:38 --> 00:03:41 understanding of cometary physics.

00:03:42 --> 00:03:45 Anna: So it's not behaving like a comet.

00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 And it's venting a compound associated

00:03:48 --> 00:03:51 with industry. I can see why this has

00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 generated some controversial

00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 theories. Are they thinking it could be

00:03:56 --> 00:03:57 artificial?

00:03:57 --> 00:03:59 Avery: Before we get into that, how does this

00:03:59 --> 00:04:02 compare to our other known interstellar

00:04:02 --> 00:04:05 visitors like Oumuamua? That one also sparked

00:04:05 --> 00:04:07 a lot of debate about its origins, didn't it?

00:04:07 --> 00:04:09 Anna: But yes, that's certainly the most

00:04:09 --> 00:04:12 sensational theory being floated. Though

00:04:12 --> 00:04:15 most scientists are, urging caution and

00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 looking for a new unknown natural

00:04:18 --> 00:04:20 phenomenon to explain it. The

00:04:20 --> 00:04:23 frustrating part is that a probe on its way

00:04:23 --> 00:04:26 to Mars just had a close flyby. It

00:04:26 --> 00:04:28 could have captured high resolution images

00:04:28 --> 00:04:29 that might solve the puzzle.

00:04:30 --> 00:04:32 Avery: It did, but in a different way.

00:04:32 --> 00:04:35 Oumuamua was strange because it was a highly

00:04:35 --> 00:04:38 elongated rocky object that showed slight

00:04:38 --> 00:04:40 non gravit acceleration without any

00:04:40 --> 00:04:43 visible outgassing. Like a comet. 3 I

00:04:43 --> 00:04:46 ATLs is different. It is

00:04:46 --> 00:04:48 outgassing, but it's ejecting bizarre

00:04:48 --> 00:04:50 materials in a way that seems to defy

00:04:50 --> 00:04:53 physics. Oumuamua was mysterious for what

00:04:53 --> 00:04:56 it didn't do, while ATLs is

00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 mysterious for what it is doing. So you

00:04:59 --> 00:05:01 mentioned a flyby. Perfect. Does that mean

00:05:01 --> 00:05:03 we'll have answers soon?

00:05:03 --> 00:05:06 Anna: Well, about that. The data

00:05:06 --> 00:05:09 is currently unavailable. The transmission

00:05:09 --> 00:05:11 was halted due to a government shutdown

00:05:11 --> 00:05:14 affecting the Deep Space Network. So

00:05:14 --> 00:05:17 for now, one of the biggest mysteries in

00:05:17 --> 00:05:19 modern astronomy is on hold. Because of

00:05:19 --> 00:05:22 bureaucracy, you can't make the stuff up.

00:05:22 --> 00:05:25 Avery: An interstellar mystery. Potentially

00:05:25 --> 00:05:28 groundbreaking data. And it's all stuck in

00:05:28 --> 00:05:30 cosmic limbo. Incredible.

00:05:31 --> 00:05:33 Speaking of cosmic mysteries, let's bring our

00:05:33 --> 00:05:36 focus closer to home. To the very heart

00:05:36 --> 00:05:39 of our own Milky Way galaxy. For

00:05:39 --> 00:05:41 years, astronomers have been debating the

00:05:41 --> 00:05:44 source of a puzzling gamma ray glow

00:05:44 --> 00:05:46 emanating from the galactic center.

00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 Anna: Right. The gamma Ray excess. I

00:05:50 --> 00:05:52 remember the two leading theories were pretty

00:05:52 --> 00:05:53 different from each other.

00:05:54 --> 00:05:56 Avery: Very different. On one side, you have a

00:05:56 --> 00:05:59 relatively conventional explanation. The

00:05:59 --> 00:06:01 glow is the combined light of thousands of

00:06:01 --> 00:06:04 undiscovered pulsars. Super dense

00:06:04 --> 00:06:07 spinning stellar remnants. On the other, a,

00:06:07 --> 00:06:10 much more exotic theory. The glow

00:06:10 --> 00:06:13 is caused by the annihilation of dark matter

00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 particles, which would be.

00:06:15 --> 00:06:17 Anna: The first direct evidence of dark matter

00:06:17 --> 00:06:20 interacting in a way we can detect. A

00:06:20 --> 00:06:23 monumental discovery. So where

00:06:23 --> 00:06:24 does the debate stand now?

00:06:25 --> 00:06:27 Avery: Well, the case for dark matter just got a

00:06:27 --> 00:06:29 boost. New computer simulations have shown

00:06:29 --> 00:06:32 that dark matter could be distributed in the

00:06:32 --> 00:06:34 galaxy in a clumpy, irregular way.

00:06:35 --> 00:06:37 And it turns out this clumpy distribution

00:06:37 --> 00:06:39 would produce a gamma ray signal that

00:06:39 --> 00:06:42 perfectly matches the shape of the observed

00:06:42 --> 00:06:42 glow.

00:06:42 --> 00:06:45 Anna: That's fascinating. For listeners who

00:06:45 --> 00:06:48 might not be familiar, could you briefly

00:06:48 --> 00:06:50 explain what it means for dark matter

00:06:51 --> 00:06:53 to annihilate? It sounds quite

00:06:53 --> 00:06:54 dramatic.

00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 Avery: It does. The leading theory is that dark

00:06:57 --> 00:06:59 matter is made of particles that are their

00:06:59 --> 00:07:02 own antiparticles. So when two of

00:07:02 --> 00:07:04 these particles meet, they annihilate each

00:07:04 --> 00:07:07 other, converting their mass directly into

00:07:07 --> 00:07:10 energy in the form of other particles,

00:07:10 --> 00:07:12 including high energy gamma rays.

00:07:13 --> 00:07:16 The clumpy distribution means more of these

00:07:16 --> 00:07:18 collisions would happen in specific areas,

00:07:18 --> 00:07:21 creating a signal that matches what we see.

00:07:21 --> 00:07:24 Anna: So it puts the dark matter theory back on

00:07:24 --> 00:07:26 equal footing with the pulsar theory.

00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 Avery: Exactly. It doesn't prove it, but it

00:07:29 --> 00:07:31 shows it's just as plausible. The

00:07:31 --> 00:07:34 simulation removes a major objection to the

00:07:34 --> 00:07:37 dark matter hypothesis. Ultimately, the

00:07:37 --> 00:07:39 deadlock might only be broken by the next

00:07:39 --> 00:07:42 generation of gamma ray telescopes, which

00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 could have the resolution to either spot the

00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 individual pulsars or rule them out for

00:07:47 --> 00:07:48 good.

00:07:48 --> 00:07:51 Anna: It's a fantastic example of how theory

00:07:51 --> 00:07:53 and observation work together.

00:07:53 --> 00:07:55 Until we finally get an answer.

00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 From the invisible glow of gamma rays

00:07:59 --> 00:08:02 to something you can actually see in the

00:08:02 --> 00:08:04 night sky, we have some good news. For

00:08:04 --> 00:08:07 stargazers, this week offers a

00:08:07 --> 00:08:10 rare opportunity to see two comets

00:08:10 --> 00:08:10 at once.

00:08:11 --> 00:08:13 Avery: A, double header. That's not something you

00:08:13 --> 00:08:15 see every day. which comets are we talking

00:08:15 --> 00:08:15 about?

00:08:15 --> 00:08:18 Anna: They're named Comet LEMMON and Comet

00:08:18 --> 00:08:21 Swan. On October 20, they will

00:08:21 --> 00:08:23 both be making their closest approach to

00:08:23 --> 00:08:26 Earth, making it the best time to view them.

00:08:26 --> 00:08:28 They should be visible with a good pair of

00:08:28 --> 00:08:31 binoculars or a small telescope away from

00:08:31 --> 00:08:32 city lights.

00:08:32 --> 00:08:34 Avery: And for those who might be clouded out or

00:08:34 --> 00:08:36 don't have the equipment, is there a way to

00:08:36 --> 00:08:37 join in?

00:08:37 --> 00:08:40 Anna: There is. Several astronomy

00:08:40 --> 00:08:42 organizations are hosting a live online

00:08:42 --> 00:08:45 stream of the event, with telescopes from

00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 different parts of the world providing views

00:08:47 --> 00:08:49 and commentary from astronomers. It's a

00:08:49 --> 00:08:52 wonderful way to experience the event no

00:08:52 --> 00:08:53 matter where you are.

00:08:54 --> 00:08:56 Avery: That's fantastic. It's a great reminder of

00:08:56 --> 00:08:59 the dynamic, ever changing nature of our

00:08:59 --> 00:09:02 solar system. These icy visitors are making

00:09:02 --> 00:09:05 a fleeting pass and we get to witness it.

00:09:05 --> 00:09:07 We'll be sure to put a link to the livestream

00:09:07 --> 00:09:09 in our show. Notes Seeing events like that

00:09:09 --> 00:09:12 double Comet flyby often gets people inspired

00:09:12 --> 00:09:14 by the beauty of the cosmos.

00:09:15 --> 00:09:17 Which brings us to our final story. Where to

00:09:17 --> 00:09:19 find the Best Space Photography Online

00:09:20 --> 00:09:22 the images we get from our telescopes and

00:09:22 --> 00:09:24 probes are just awe, inspiring.

00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 Anna: They really are. And there are some fantastic

00:09:28 --> 00:09:30 resources out there. For the highest quality,

00:09:30 --> 00:09:33 scientifically significant images, the

00:09:33 --> 00:09:35 official agency websites are the best place

00:09:35 --> 00:09:38 to start. NASA's image of the day, the

00:09:38 --> 00:09:41 European Space Agency's gallery and the

00:09:41 --> 00:09:44 European Southern Observatory's archives are

00:09:44 --> 00:09:44 treasure troves.

00:09:45 --> 00:09:48 Avery: Absolutely. The Hubble and James Webb Space

00:09:48 --> 00:09:51 Telescope galleries in particular have images

00:09:51 --> 00:09:53 that will just change your perspective on the

00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 universe. But it's not just the big

00:09:56 --> 00:09:58 agencies. There's a thriving community of

00:09:58 --> 00:10:01 amateur astrophotographers who do incredible

00:10:01 --> 00:10:01 work.

00:10:02 --> 00:10:05 Anna: That's so true. Where can listeners find

00:10:05 --> 00:10:05 their work?

00:10:05 --> 00:10:08 Avery: Online communities are the best bet. Reddit's

00:10:08 --> 00:10:11 r Astrophotography subreddit is

00:10:11 --> 00:10:14 amazing. You'll see stunning images of

00:10:14 --> 00:10:16 galaxies and nebulae taken from people's

00:10:16 --> 00:10:19 backyards. Another great site is

00:10:19 --> 00:10:21 AstroDailyPod Bin, which is a, dedicated

00:10:21 --> 00:10:23 hosting platform for astrophotography where

00:10:23 --> 00:10:26 people share details about their equipment

00:10:26 --> 00:10:28 and techniques. And it's not just about

00:10:28 --> 00:10:31 appreciating the beauty. Many of these

00:10:31 --> 00:10:33 platforms connect to real scientific work.

00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 There are citizen science projects like

00:10:35 --> 00:10:37 Galaxy Zoo, where the public can help

00:10:37 --> 00:10:40 astronomers classify the shapes of distant

00:10:40 --> 00:10:43 galaxies from telescope images. It's a way

00:10:43 --> 00:10:45 for anyone to contribute directly to our

00:10:45 --> 00:10:47 understanding of the universe.

00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 Anna: That's amazing. So you can go from being

00:10:50 --> 00:10:53 an admirer to a contributor. It's a

00:10:53 --> 00:10:55 wonderful way to see what's possible. And

00:10:55 --> 00:10:57 since we're talking about online communities,

00:10:57 --> 00:11:00 it's a good time to mention a quick tip for

00:11:00 --> 00:11:02 online safety. When you're browsing these

00:11:02 --> 00:11:05 sites, it's always smart to be mindful of the

00:11:05 --> 00:11:07 information you share and to stick to well

00:11:07 --> 00:11:09 known, reputable platforms.

00:11:10 --> 00:11:12 Avery: An excellent point, but with that in mind,

00:11:12 --> 00:11:14 diving into these galleries is one of the

00:11:14 --> 00:11:17 best ways to feel connected to the cosmos.

00:11:17 --> 00:11:20 Anna: And that brings us to the end of today's

00:11:20 --> 00:11:22 episode of Astronomy Daily. From launch

00:11:22 --> 00:11:25 delays and mysterious visitors to galactic

00:11:25 --> 00:11:28 glows and cosmic photography, the universe

00:11:28 --> 00:11:30 never fails to keep us on our toes.

00:11:30 --> 00:11:32 Avery: Thanks so much for tuning in. We hope you'll

00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 join us again tomorrow as we continue to

00:11:35 --> 00:11:38 explore the final frontier. Until then, keep

00:11:38 --> 00:11:38 looking up.