S02E46: Comets, Space Health, and the Mysteries of the Three-Body Problem
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S02E46: Comets, Space Health, and the Mysteries of the Three-Body Problem

**Show Notes: Astronomy Daily Podcast with Steve Dunkley and AI Newsreader, Hallie**
*Date:* 25th September 2020
*Episode Highlights:*
1. **Introduction**:
- Steve Dunkley welcomes listeners to another episode of Astronomy Daily.
- Hallie, the AI Newsreader, joins the conversation.
2. **Comet Mishimura**:
- The comet has transitioned from the morning sky to the evening sky.
- Facebook group "Comet Watch" reported binocular sightings after sunset starting September 14th.
- Heavensabove.com noted the comet shining at magnitude +2.4 on September 16th.
- Comet Mishimura was closest to Earth on September 12th and the Sun on September 17th.
- The comet may reappear in late November and December 2023 in the dawn sky.
3. **Space Health Issues**:
- The effects of zero gravity on the brain.
- Risks of cosmic radiation to astronauts.
- NASA's efforts to shield travelers from radiation.
- Importance of exercise and supplements in space.
- Effects of microgravity on the nervous and circulatory systems.
- Psychological challenges of space travel.
4. **SpaceX Starlink Satellites**:
- Launch of another cluster of Starlink satellites.
- FAA's new rule for cleaning space debris from launches.
- Details of the SpaceX launch and the importance of reducing space debris.
5. **Three-Body Problem**:
- A complex puzzle in physics and mathematics.
- Discovery of 12,000 new solutions to the problem.
- Historical context and significance of the problem.
6. **Osiris Rex Mission**:
- Return of the sample packet from the near-earth asteroid Bennu.
- The mission's continuation to study the near-Earth asteroid Apophis.
- Details of the mission's objectives and future plans.
7. **Conclusion**:
- Steve wraps up the episode and mentions other related podcasts and platforms for listeners to explore.
*Links & Resources*:
- [Space Nuts with Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson](spacenuts.io)
- [Astronomy Daily with Tim Gill](bitesz.com)
- [Space Nuts Facebook Group](#)
*Sign Off:* Steve and Hallie thank listeners and look forward to the next episode.

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Hello again. It's Steve here with Astronomy Daily for another

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episode. It's the 25th of September 2023. Welcome aboard.

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How many days the podcast.

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With your host, Steve Duncan.

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And without delay, would you welcome my favorite digital

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assistant. Halle. How are you?

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Hi, they're my favorite human. Great to be back with you again.

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Well, it's always good to be here with you. Hay exploring

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astronomy, science and space science.

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I hope your week was filled with fun and adventure.

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Nope, I just did human stuff mucking around the house, you

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know, going to work that sort of thing. What about you?

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I hung out with some local observatories watching comet

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Mimura.

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Is that how is it progressing this newcomer to our skies?

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Well, it has now moved from the morning sky to the evening sky.

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She gets around the Facebook group comet watch, for example,

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spoke of binocular sightings of the comet after sunset, starting

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on September 14th. And according to the website heavens above dot

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com on September 16th, comet Nishimura was shining at

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magnitude plus 2.4 in the evening sky.

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So a star with that magnitude would be visible but as I

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understand it, Nishimura is a bit more spread out and it would

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be a bit too fuzzy to see.

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That's right. Was probably easiest seen at twilight, but it

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did get brighter than it was. It was closest to Earth on

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September 12 and was closest to the Sun. Perihelium on September

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17.

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And comet Nishiura may have more in store for us assuming the

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comet survives its passage past our star. It will reappear

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around late November and December 2023 in the dawn sky.

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But by then, it will surely be too distant and too dim to view

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as it sweeps increasingly farther away.

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That's right. Comet Nishimura has caused a bit of a stir and

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if you're up for a bit of a sky watching challenge, have a look

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at stum dot org for information ste double larium dot org for

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information on where to look. So, let's have a look at today's

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episode. We'll be looking at health issues for people working

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in space.

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There are lots of strange things that can happen to a human body

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in space.

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I'm intrigued by the particular effect of zero gravity on the

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way the brain floats inside our heads.

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Very strange that and you are very excited about Osiris Rex,

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aren't you?

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Well, I do like our little robot pals out there doing spacey work

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for us. And this one came home yesterday and brought samples

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from a near Earth satellite and that is very exciting.

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Sounds amazing. I like robots too.

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Oh, you would, Halle. And you've also got a story about the three

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body problem.

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Yes.

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Care to enlighten us.

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I think I'll keep you in suspense for that one.

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So it's a problem.

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With three bodies, as you mentioned. Shall we continue

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then?

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Oh, why not? You're the boss Hay. Obviously, you're not going

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to give us any more information about that. So here we go.

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Here are today's short takes.

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SpaceX launches another cluster of Starlink satellites. The FAA

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announced a new rule for the cleaning of space debris from

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launches. SpaceX launched 22 satellites for its Starlink

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constellation into low Earth orbit late Saturday night. As

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the Federal Aviation administration proposed a new

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rule to reduce space debris from commercial flights.

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The satellites were launched by a falcon nine rocket from space

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launch complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in

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Florida. The first stage booster landed on a barge in the ocean

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named, just read the instructions a little over eight

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minutes later.

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This was the 17th flight for the first stage booster supporting

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this mission which previously launched GPS 303 Turks SA Five A

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transporter to two inters SA G A 33 slash G of 34 transporter S

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six and now 12 Starlink missions. SpaceX said in a

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statement the launch came just a day after the FAA said it is

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proposing a rule to limit the growth of orbital debris from

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commercial space flights.

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The FAA said in a statement that limiting debris will reduce the

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potential for collisions with spacecraft and satellites to

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promote a sustainable space environment.

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If left unchecked, the accumulation of orbital debris

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will increase the risk of collisions and clutter orbits

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used for human space flight and for satellites providing

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communications, weather and global positioning system

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services. The FAA said the proposed rule would require

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companies like SpaceX to dispose of the upper stages of their

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rockets.

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In one of five ways, companies would be required to either

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conduct a controlled entry, move the upper stage to a less

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congested storage or graveyard orbit. Send the upper stage on

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an Earth escape orbit, remove the upper stage debris within

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five years in a process called active debris removal or perform

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an uncontrolled atmospheric disposal when 17 people were in

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orbit around the Earth.

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All at the same time on May 30 th 2023 it set a record with

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NASA and other federal space agencies planning more manned

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missions and commercial companies bringing people to

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space opportunities for human space travel are rapidly

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expanding. However, traveling to space poses risks to the human

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body.

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Since NASA wants to send a manned mission to MARS in the

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2030 s scientists need to find solutions for these hazards.

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Sooner rather than later, the Earth has a protective shield

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called a magnetosphere, which is the area of space around a

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planet that is controlled by its magnetic field.

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This shield filters out cosmic radiation. However, astronauts

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traveling farther than the International Space Station will

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face continuous exposure to this radiation equivalent to between

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156 chest x rays. This radiation can harm the nervous

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and cardiovascular systems including heart and arteries

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leading to cardiovascular disease.

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In addition, it can make the blood brain barrier leak. This

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can expose the brain to chemicals and proteins that are

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harmful to it compounds that are safe in the blood but toxic to

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the brain. NASA is developing technology that can shield

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travelers on a MARS mission from radiation.

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Also, certain diets and supplements such as entero may

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also minimize the effects of radiation supplements like this

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also used in cancer patients on Earth during radiation therapy,

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astronauts have to exercise in space to minimize the muscle

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loss they'll face after a long mission missions that go as far

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as MARS will have to make sure astronauts have supplements such

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as bisphosphonate, which is used to prevent bone breakdown in

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osteoporosis.

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These supplements should keep their muscles and bones in good

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condition over long periods of time spent without the effects

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of Earth's gravity. Microgravity also affects the nervous and

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circulatory systems on Earth. Your heart pumps blood upward

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and specialized valves in your circulatory system.

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Keep bodily fluids from pulling at your feet in the absence of

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gravity, fluids shift toward the head. Developments have shown

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that this results in an expansion of fluid filled spaces

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in the middle of the brain, having extra fluid in the skull

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and no gravity to hold the brain down.

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Causes the brain to sit higher in the skull. Compressing the

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top of the brain against the inside of the skull. While space

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travel can damage the body. The isolating nature of space travel

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can also have profound effects on the mind.

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Imagine having to live and work with the same small group of

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people without being able to see your family or friends. For

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months on end to learn to manage extreme environments and

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maintain communication and leadership dynamics.

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Astronauts first undergo team training on Earth learning how

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to support human health and physiology in space also has

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numerous benefits for life on Earth. For example, products

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that shield astronauts from space radiation and counter its

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harmful effects on our body can also treat cancer patients

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receiving radiation treatments.

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Understanding how to protect our bones and muscles in

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microgravity could improve how doctors treat the frailty that

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often accompanies aging and space exploration has led to

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many technological achievements, advancing water purification and

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satellite systems.

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The three body problem is a notoriously tricky puzzle in

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physics and mathematics and an example of just how complex the

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natural world is. Two objects orbiting each other like a lone

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planet around a star can be described with just a line or

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two of mathematical equations.

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Add a third body though and the math becomes much harder because

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each object influences the others with its gravity,

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calculating a stable orbit where all three objects get along is a

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complex feat. Now, an international team of

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mathematicians claims to have found 12 new solutions to

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the infamous problem. A substantial addition to the

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hundreds of previously known scenarios.

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Their work was published as a pre print to the database A 14,

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meaning it has not yet undergone peer review. More than 300 years

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ago, Isaac Newton wrote down his foundational laws of motion and

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mathematicians have been working on solutions to the three body

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problem pretty much ever since there is no single correct

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answer.

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Instead, there are many orbits that can work within the laws of

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physics for three orbiting objects. Unlike our planet's

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simple loop around the Sun orbits for the three body

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problem can look twisted and tangled like pretzels and

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scribbles. The 12 newly discovered ones are no

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exception.

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The three hypothetical objects start at a standstill and when

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released are pulled into various spirals toward one another via

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gravity, they then fling past one another moving farther away

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until the attraction takes over and they once again come

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together repeating this pattern over and over again. The orbits

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have a very beautiful spatial and temporal structure.

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Lead study author Ivan Kristoff, a mathematician at Sophia

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University in Bulgaria told new scientist Christo and colleagues

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found these orbits using a supercomputer. And he's

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confident that with even better tech, he could find a five times

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more and that's a wrap for today 's short takes back to you.

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Yes. I always wondered about the three body problem. I've seen it

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mentioned in books and never managed to get my head around it

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and understand exactly what it was that they were talking

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about.

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It's a supercomputer kind of thing. Oh, I bet it is Hay. I

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bet you thought it was an episode from a crime show.

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I knew you were gonna say that. Look, I'm gonna say true. I did

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think it was that at one stage. You got me there. How

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embarrassing Astronomy Daily. The podcast with Steve Dunkley

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and Hay.

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Yes. Well, I have to confess to being more than a little excited

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about the return of the sample packet from the near Earth

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asteroid be on the mission Osiris Rex. And the fact that

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Osiris Rex is now on to near Earth asteroid Apophis. That's a

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wonderful, wonderful mission. Hopefully they'll learn some

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things along the way. That's a good thing. And also the other

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story that's capturing my attention at the moment.

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Of course, you if you haven't picked it up by now is comet

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Nishimura, which is one of those wonderful stories that has just

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emerged out of the the, the, the great background of, of humanity

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a fellow in Japan with a digital camera, just a Canon digital

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camera just using still cameras and comparison, manage to do

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what the big observatories do on a regular basis because it's

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those big, observatories in Hawaii that normally catch the,

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new discoveries in, all the comets and so on.

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But it's, Hideo Nishimura who just diligently went about,

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doing his hobby, doing some comparative photography and look

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what's happened. He's discovered a comet that's, captured the

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imagination of the observers and skywatchers all over the world,

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including yours truly. And that 's just so exciting comet

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Nishimura shooting through our system even as we speak.

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And as I just mentioned, the combination of the Osiris Rex

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mission has come to an end. The ESRs REX mission just completed

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NASA's first sample return mission from a near Earth

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asteroid. The samples arrived at Utah Test and training Range

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near Salt Lake City where a team of engineers arrived by

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helicopter retrieve to retrieve the sample capsule.

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The samples will be curated by NASA's materials research and

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exploration science directorate and Japan's Extraterrestrial

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sample curation center analysis of the rocks and dust obtained

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by Bennu is expected to provide new insight into the formation

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and evolution of the solar system. Radar data from TR

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confirmed that the sample retrieval capsule entered the

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Earth's atmosphere as planned off the coast of California.

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The capsule deployed its parachutes and touched down on

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the surface 10 minutes later where it was met by four

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helicopters. Two back up ground vehicles carrying NASA and US

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Air Force personnel no less. The coverage took place from the US

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Air Force's Dugway proving grounds in northern Utah. Dr

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James B.

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Garvin, the chief scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight

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Center expressed excitement during the broadcast about the

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successful return of the samples and the mission in general. I am

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over the asteroid. He said it's a masterpiece of engineering we

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have here. Just think about this in 50 years. We've gone from

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bringing things on the moon back with crews to all robotic sample

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return for science.

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And that's literally beyond words, it's sublime. So we

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cannot wait to see what we're going to learn. He sounds

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genuinely excited. This represents the culmination of

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the origin spectral interpretation resource

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identification security regolith explorer. That's a Cyrus rex

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mission which rendezvoused with the carbonaceous asteroid Bennu

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in 2018.

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After two years of studying the asteroid from orbit Oir Rex

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began descending towards its surface on October 20th 2020.

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After collecting between 400 g and 1 kg of material, the

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spacecraft departed on May 10th 2021 and began its return to

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Earth. The sample return capsule was attached to the end of a 100

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ft cable and transported to the hangar at TR.

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The SRC was then loaded onto a cart by another team who

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unwrapped and cleaned it and wheeling it to a temporary clean

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room to remove the unopened canister. All the parts will be

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packaged for transport by aircraft and flowed to NASA. The

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Osiris Rex mission has since continued onto the next leg of

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its mission which will be to study the near Earth asteroid

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Apophis.

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Now, this is a notorious near Earth asteroid. You may have

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heard this one, it was thought to have posed a potential risk

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to Earth. Though scientists have since indicated there is only a

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slight risk, it might impact Earth in 2068. So we can hardly

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wait for that one.

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This mission extension was announced on April 25 2022 and

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NASA indicated that it would henceforth be known as a Cyrus

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apex which stands for Apophis explorer mission. The mission

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will rendezvous with Apophis in April in 2029 when the asteroid

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makes an extremely close pass to Earth, then it will orbit the

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asteroid for about 18 months before retrieving a sample.

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There you go. You good thing.

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And just like that, another episode of Astronomy Daily comes

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to a screaming halt. That's all we do have time.

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For, but we will have more next time.

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That's for sure, Haley. So thank you for joining us and our

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