Stellar Breakthroughs: The Discovery of Deuterated Methanol and the First Green Star
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Stellar Breakthroughs: The Discovery of Deuterated Methanol and the First Green Star

Show notes Episode 206 opens with the first results from ALMA's COMPASS survey: the first detection anywhere in interstellar space of fully deuterated methanol, and methanol masers turning up around more than half of a sample of young Sun-like stars. Then the first star that would look green, Magellanic Cloud pulsars recovered from decades-old Parkes data, a supernova caught days old when the universe was 1.2 billion years old, quick hits on Hera, CRS-35 and MMX, and a both-hemispheres skywatch built around the Orionids. Heavy methanol around a newborn star ALMA's COMPASS programme (11 protostars, 100+ hours, seven A&A papers) reports the first interstellar CD3OD around IRAS 4A2 in Perseus (Belloche, MPIfR) and methanol masers in more than half of its low-mass protostars (Jeong, SNU). Deuterium fraction as a formation clock; current models can't reproduce the pattern. The first green star Warwick's Hollands et al. (RASTI) compute white dwarf colours from spectra: WD J1330+6435 comes out chartreuse thanks to accreted sodium; WD J1011+2845 may be the reddest star known. Of 151 white dwarfs within 20 pc, about 1 in 30 is oddly coloured, and the median is white. Pulsars hiding in the Parkes archive Reprocessing Murriyang's Magellanic Cloud surveys finds six pulsars, five in the LMC including a 3.8 s spinner (Sengar et al., preprint); a separate search finds PSR J0103−72, the slowest radio pulsar in the SMC (Wang & Sengar, preprint). A supernova caught days old JWST's NEXUS survey caught AT 2026abck at z = 5.017 roughly 4–10 rest-frame days after explosion — the first robust z ≳ 5 transient in an unlensed field (preprint; no spectrum yet). Quick hits Hera's BRM-1 braking burn (result pending at recording), CRS-35 docks with the last iROSAs, and MMX launches Tuesday morning Japan time. Skywatch First quarter 18 Oct, Orionids peak 21–22 Oct with the Moon down before dawn everywhere, evening Mercury for the south, Venus heading into conjunction, Saturn after dark, Mars and Jupiter closing before dawn. Sources · ALMA — Cosmic Cocktail: ALMA Reveals Exotic Methanol Around Young Stars (7 Oct 2026) — https://www.almaobservatory.org/en/press-releases/cosmic-cocktail-alma-reveals-exotic-methanol-around-young-stars/ · Belloche et al., COMPASS VII, arXiv 2610.07279 — https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.07279 · University of Warwick — true colours of white dwarf stars — https://warwick.ac.uk/news/pressreleases/astronomers-reveal-true-colours-of-white-dwarf-stars/ · Hollands et al., RASTI DOI 10.1093/rasti/rzag069 — https://academic.oup.com/rasti/article/doi/10.1093/rasti/rzag069 · Sengar et al., arXiv 2610.12450 — https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.12450 · Wang & Sengar, arXiv 2610.12143 — https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.12143 · Zhuang, Shen et al., arXiv 2609.38373 — https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.38373 · ESA — Brake! Time for ESA's Hera asteroid mission to go slow — https://www.esa.int/Space_Safety/Hera/Brake!_Time_for_ESA_s_Hera_asteroid_mission_to_go_slow · NASA Space Station blog — CRS-35 docking — https://www.nasa.gov/blogs/spacestation/ · JAXA — MMX launch schedule — https://global.jaxa.jp/press/2026/08/20260820-1_e.html

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00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 Anna: Hello everyone. Welcome to Astronomy

00:00:02 --> 00:00:05 AstroDailyPod. A molecule

00:00:05 --> 00:00:07 nobody had ever found in space, sitting

00:00:07 --> 00:00:10 around a star that hasn't finished being

00:00:10 --> 00:00:10 born.

00:00:11 --> 00:00:13 Avery: A dead star that would glow green if only

00:00:13 --> 00:00:16 you could get close enough to look at it.

00:00:16 --> 00:00:19 And six pulsars that were hiding in old

00:00:19 --> 00:00:21 Australian radio data the whole time.

00:00:21 --> 00:00:24 Anna: Plus a supernova caught just days

00:00:24 --> 00:00:26 after it went off when the universe was

00:00:26 --> 00:00:29 barely more than a billion years old. And an

00:00:29 --> 00:00:31 update on Hera's big breaking burn.

00:00:32 --> 00:00:34 Avery: It's Friday 16th October

00:00:34 --> 00:00:37 2026, and this is Astronomy AstroDailyPod

00:00:38 --> 00:00:41 series five, episode 206. I'm, um,

00:00:41 --> 00:00:41 Avery.

00:00:41 --> 00:00:43 Anna: And I'm Anna.

00:00:43 --> 00:00:44 Let's get into it.

00:00:44 --> 00:00:46 Avery: Ready when you are. Why don't you lead things

00:00:46 --> 00:00:47 off, Anna?

00:00:47 --> 00:00:50 Anna: Our lead story today is about chemistry,

00:00:51 --> 00:00:53 and it comes from the Atacama Large

00:00:53 --> 00:00:56 Millimetre Submillimeter Array on

00:00:56 --> 00:00:58 Alma, high on the Chognator Plateau

00:00:58 --> 00:01:01 in northern Chile. A large

00:01:01 --> 00:01:04 international programme called compass,

00:01:04 --> 00:01:07 which stands for Complex Organic Molecules

00:01:07 --> 00:01:10 in Protostars with ALMA Spectral Surveys,

00:01:10 --> 00:01:13 has published its first results this month as

00:01:13 --> 00:01:16 uh, seven papers in the journal Astronomy and

00:01:16 --> 00:01:17 Astrophysics.

00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 Avery: And the headline is A molecule that has never

00:01:20 --> 00:01:21 been detected in space Before.

00:01:22 --> 00:01:24 Anna: That's right, but let's set the scene first,

00:01:25 --> 00:01:27 because the survey itself is the reason the

00:01:27 --> 00:01:30 discovery was possible. Compus pointed

00:01:30 --> 00:01:33 Alma at 11 nearby protostars.

00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 These are young sun like stars that are still

00:01:36 --> 00:01:38 wrapped in the cloud of gas and dust they're

00:01:38 --> 00:01:41 forming from. The programme took more than a

00:01:41 --> 00:01:43 hundred hours of telescope time.

00:01:43 --> 00:01:45 Avery: And instead of looking for one molecule at a

00:01:45 --> 00:01:48 time, they recorded white slices of the

00:01:48 --> 00:01:49 spectrum all at once.

00:01:50 --> 00:01:52 Anna: Exactly. Every molecule in space

00:01:53 --> 00:01:55 emits at its own set of radio frequencies, a

00:01:55 --> 00:01:58 kind of barcode. A broadband spectral

00:01:58 --> 00:02:00 survey records thousands of those lines

00:02:00 --> 00:02:03 simultaneously. And then the work is

00:02:03 --> 00:02:05 untangling which lines belong to which

00:02:05 --> 00:02:08 molecule. The programme is led by Jes

00:02:08 --> 00:02:10 Jorgensen at the Niels Bohr Institute in

00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 Copenhagen, with co leads in the United

00:02:12 --> 00:02:15 States, France, Switzerland and South Korea.

00:02:15 --> 00:02:18 Jorgensen describes the results as completely

00:02:18 --> 00:02:20 new insight into the chemistry around the

00:02:20 --> 00:02:21 very youngest stars.

00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 Avery: Let's take the two big results in turn. The

00:02:25 --> 00:02:27 first one is about methanol masers.

00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 Anna: Methanol is the simplest alcohol.

00:02:30 --> 00:02:33 It's one carbon, one oxygen and four

00:02:33 --> 00:02:36 hydrogens. And in space it

00:02:36 --> 00:02:38 matters because it is a stepping stone to

00:02:38 --> 00:02:40 bigger organic molecules.

00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 A maser is the microwave cousin of a laser.

00:02:44 --> 00:02:47 Under the right conditions, the molecules

00:02:47 --> 00:02:49 amplify radiation at one very

00:02:49 --> 00:02:52 specific frequency and you get an intensely

00:02:52 --> 00:02:54 bright narrow signal.

00:02:55 --> 00:02:57 Avery: And um, methanol masers are well known around

00:02:57 --> 00:02:58 massive stars.

00:02:59 --> 00:03:01 Anna: They are what a Study led by

00:03:01 --> 00:03:04 Jaeheng Jiang, a graduate student at Seoul

00:03:04 --> 00:03:07 National University, found is that methanol

00:03:07 --> 00:03:10 maser emission shows up in more than half

00:03:10 --> 00:03:12 of the low mass protostars in the sample.

00:03:13 --> 00:03:16 That was not expected for stars on the way to

00:03:16 --> 00:03:19 being something like rsut. The team

00:03:19 --> 00:03:21 also identified a new maser transition of

00:03:21 --> 00:03:24 methanol and found it associated with another

00:03:24 --> 00:03:27 organic molecule, acetaldehyde.

00:03:28 --> 00:03:30 Avery: So it may be common and we simply weren't

00:03:30 --> 00:03:31 looking hard enough.

00:03:32 --> 00:03:34 Anna: That's the team's reading that this

00:03:34 --> 00:03:37 emission may be a normal part of the earliest

00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 stages and only shows up once the

00:03:40 --> 00:03:42 observations are sensitive enough.

00:03:43 --> 00:03:45 Avery: Now the result in the headline this

00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 Anna: one is led by Arno Balas at the

00:03:48 --> 00:03:51 Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy.

00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 The target is a protostar called

00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 IRAS4A2 in the Perseus

00:03:56 --> 00:03:59 molecular cloud about 1000 light years away

00:03:59 --> 00:04:02 and around it, the team made the first

00:04:02 --> 00:04:05 interstellar detection of fully deuterated

00:04:05 --> 00:04:07 methanol. Its formula is

00:04:07 --> 00:04:08 CD3OD.

00:04:09 --> 00:04:11 Avery: Explain deuterium for us.

00:04:11 --> 00:04:14 Anna: Deuterium is heavy hydrogen.

00:04:14 --> 00:04:17 A normal hydrogen nucleus is a single

00:04:17 --> 00:04:20 proton. Deuterium has a proton and

00:04:20 --> 00:04:23 a neutron. Chemically, it behaves almost the

00:04:23 --> 00:04:25 same, so it can take hydrogen's place in a

00:04:25 --> 00:04:28 molecule. Ordinary methanol has four

00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 hydrogen atoms. Fully deuterated

00:04:30 --> 00:04:33 methanol has all four, replaced by deuterium.

00:04:34 --> 00:04:36 The paper notes it's the first molecule with

00:04:36 --> 00:04:39 four deuterium atoms ever identified in the

00:04:39 --> 00:04:40 interstellar medium.

00:04:40 --> 00:04:43 Avery: And deuterium is rare,

00:04:43 --> 00:04:44 very rare.

00:04:45 --> 00:04:47 Anna: Across the cosmos, there are only about two

00:04:47 --> 00:04:49 deuterium atoms for every 100

00:04:50 --> 00:04:52 hydrogen atoms. If molecules simply

00:04:52 --> 00:04:55 picked up deuterium at that ratio, you would

00:04:55 --> 00:04:57 essentially never see one with four of them.

00:04:58 --> 00:05:00 So the fact that this molecule exists at all

00:05:00 --> 00:05:03 in enough quantity for ALMA to detect

00:05:03 --> 00:05:05 tells you something has been concentrating

00:05:05 --> 00:05:07 deuterium very strongly.

00:05:07 --> 00:05:10 Avery: How do you prove you found a molecule

00:05:10 --> 00:05:13 in a spectrum that crowded with

00:05:13 --> 00:05:16 Anna: many lines, not one? A single

00:05:16 --> 00:05:19 spectral line could be a coincidence, because

00:05:19 --> 00:05:22 a protostar like this has thousands of lines

00:05:22 --> 00:05:24 from dozens of molecules overlapping.

00:05:24 --> 00:05:27 So the test is whether every line that the

00:05:27 --> 00:05:30 lab says this molecule should produce appears

00:05:30 --> 00:05:32 at the right frequency with sensible relative

00:05:32 --> 00:05:35 strengths and with nothing better explaining

00:05:35 --> 00:05:38 it. The paper reports 10 lines of

00:05:38 --> 00:05:40 fully deuterated methanol clearly detected

00:05:40 --> 00:05:41 under those criteria.

00:05:42 --> 00:05:44 Avery: And this has been a long hunt.

00:05:44 --> 00:05:47 Anna: It has Methanol with a single

00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 deuterium was first found in space in

00:05:50 --> 00:05:52 1988 toward Orion.

00:05:52 --> 00:05:55 Versions with two and three deuterium atoms

00:05:55 --> 00:05:58 followed in the early 2000s around another

00:05:58 --> 00:05:59 young protostar,

00:05:59 --> 00:06:01 IRAS16.

00:06:01 --> 00:06:04 The forward deuterium version is the last

00:06:04 --> 00:06:06 step on that ladder, and until now, there had

00:06:06 --> 00:06:09 been no robust identification of it anywhere

00:06:09 --> 00:06:10 in the interstellar medium.

00:06:11 --> 00:06:13 Avery: And this is where it becomes a clock rather

00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 than a curiosity.

00:06:15 --> 00:06:18 Anna: Right before a star switches on, the

00:06:18 --> 00:06:21 cloud core it forms from is extraordinarily

00:06:21 --> 00:06:24 cold, around 10 degrees above absolute zero.

00:06:25 --> 00:06:27 In those conditions, carbon monoxide freezes

00:06:27 --> 00:06:30 onto dust grains and the chemistry in the gas

00:06:30 --> 00:06:32 tilts in favour of handing deuterium to

00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 whatever forms next. Methanol forms on the

00:06:35 --> 00:06:38 icy grains by adding hydrogen atoms one

00:06:38 --> 00:06:41 at a time, to frozen carbon monoxide.

00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 The colder and older the core, the more of

00:06:44 --> 00:06:46 those added atoms are deuterium.

00:06:46 --> 00:06:49 Avery: So the amount of deuterium in the methanol

00:06:49 --> 00:06:52 reflects when and in what conditions

00:06:52 --> 00:06:53 it formed?

00:06:54 --> 00:06:56 Anna: That's the idea the paper sets out. The

00:06:56 --> 00:06:59 deuterium fraction can reflect the time when

00:06:59 --> 00:07:01 a molecule formed. Then the

00:07:01 --> 00:07:04 protostar switches on and warms its

00:07:04 --> 00:07:06 surroundings. The ice evaporates, the

00:07:06 --> 00:07:09 methanol comes off the grains into the gas

00:07:09 --> 00:07:12 and ALMA can see it. What we're reading in

00:07:12 --> 00:07:15 that gas is an effect of fossil record of the

00:07:15 --> 00:07:17 cold phase before the star existed.

00:07:18 --> 00:07:20 Avery: There's a nice callback here for regular

00:07:20 --> 00:07:21 listeners.

00:07:21 --> 00:07:24 Anna: There is. In episode 200, we

00:07:24 --> 00:07:27 covered the deuterium to hydrogen ratio in

00:07:27 --> 00:07:30 the water of the interstellar comet 3I

00:07:30 --> 00:07:33 Atlas. And before that, in episode

00:07:33 --> 00:07:36 194, molecular nitrogen used

00:07:36 --> 00:07:38 as a thermometer for where that comet formed.

00:07:38 --> 00:07:41 Same principle, isotopes and ices as

00:07:41 --> 00:07:44 thermometers and clocks for places we

00:07:44 --> 00:07:45 can never visit.

00:07:46 --> 00:07:48 Avery: Now, caveats, because there are some

00:07:48 --> 00:07:49 important ones.

00:07:50 --> 00:07:53 Anna: Yes. First, the deuterium pattern

00:07:53 --> 00:07:55 itself is a puzzle. The team detected

00:07:55 --> 00:07:57 every form of methanol with lab data

00:07:57 --> 00:08:00 available, and the apparent deuterium

00:08:00 --> 00:08:03 fraction rises as you go from 1 deuterium

00:08:03 --> 00:08:06 to 2, 3 and 4. That's a pattern

00:08:06 --> 00:08:08 seen in other young stars too. But the

00:08:08 --> 00:08:10 current chemical models of cold cores don't

00:08:10 --> 00:08:13 reproduce it. And the new detection makes the

00:08:13 --> 00:08:15 mismatch worse, not better.

00:08:15 --> 00:08:18 Avery: So it's a result that breaks the models

00:08:18 --> 00:08:20 rather than confirming them.

00:08:20 --> 00:08:23 Anna: It is. Second, the authors themselves

00:08:23 --> 00:08:25 suspect their measurement of ordinary

00:08:25 --> 00:08:27 methanol is too low, possibly because the

00:08:27 --> 00:08:30 emission is clumpy and that would shift the

00:08:30 --> 00:08:32 ratios. Third, this is one

00:08:32 --> 00:08:35 protostar. And fourth, the obvious one.

00:08:35 --> 00:08:38 Organic molecules are chemistry, not biology.

00:08:39 --> 00:08:41 Jorgensen frames the bigger question as how

00:08:41 --> 00:08:44 these ingredients might shape conditions on

00:08:44 --> 00:08:46 planets that form later. That's a question,

00:08:46 --> 00:08:47 not a finding.

00:08:48 --> 00:08:51 Avery: And, um, these are the first papers. The full

00:08:51 --> 00:08:53 data set is still being analysed.

00:08:53 --> 00:08:56 Anna: Seoul National University's Jung Unlee, one

00:08:56 --> 00:08:58 of the CO leads, says they're just beginning

00:08:58 --> 00:09:01 to tap the richness of the data. A key goal

00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 is working out whether differences between

00:09:03 --> 00:09:06 young stars come from where they were born

00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 or develop as they grow up.

00:09:08 --> 00:09:11 Avery: And the southern angle, two of them,

00:09:11 --> 00:09:14 Anna: honestly labelled Alma itself,

00:09:14 --> 00:09:17 sits at 5 metres in the Chilean Andes.

00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 And three of the seven papers focus on

00:09:20 --> 00:09:22 another protostar called BHR71,

00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 a dark globule deep in the southern sky

00:09:26 --> 00:09:29 from Sydney. It is circumpolar and climbs to

00:09:29 --> 00:09:32 almost 60 degrees. It never rises for our

00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 listeners in Los Angeles, New York or London.

00:09:35 --> 00:09:37 Perseus, where the heavy methanol was found,

00:09:38 --> 00:09:40 is the opposite. Low for us, almost

00:09:40 --> 00:09:42 overhead for California.

00:09:43 --> 00:09:45 Avery: Both hemispheres in one survey. Lovely.

00:09:45 --> 00:09:48 Anna: Right, on to our next story

00:09:49 --> 00:09:49 from

00:09:49 --> 00:09:52 Avery: chemistry around a star being born to the

00:09:52 --> 00:09:53 colours of stars that have died.

00:09:54 --> 00:09:56 Astronomers at the University of Warwick have

00:09:56 --> 00:09:58 published the study this week in RAS

00:09:58 --> 00:10:01 Techniques and Instruments, with a lovely

00:10:01 --> 00:10:04 title, any colour you like and

00:10:04 --> 00:10:04 a claim

00:10:04 --> 00:10:06 Anna: nobody has made before.

00:10:07 --> 00:10:10 Avery: The first star that would genuinely look

00:10:10 --> 00:10:12 green. Here's a setup.

00:10:12 --> 00:10:15 For most stars, colour is just temperature.

00:10:15 --> 00:10:18 Cooler stars look orange. Stars, like the

00:10:18 --> 00:10:21 sun, look white. The hottest look pale blue.

00:10:22 --> 00:10:24 Physicists call that a perfect radiator,

00:10:24 --> 00:10:27 like iron glowing in a blacksmith's forge.

00:10:28 --> 00:10:31 Anna: And white dwarfs, the dense cores left

00:10:31 --> 00:10:34 behind by sun like stars, were assumed to

00:10:34 --> 00:10:35 follow the same rule.

00:10:35 --> 00:10:38 Avery: They were. But the team led by Mark

00:10:38 --> 00:10:40 Hollins points out that the coolest white

00:10:40 --> 00:10:43 dwarf atmospheres are astonishingly dense,

00:10:43 --> 00:10:46 around 1 gramme per cubic centimetre, about

00:10:46 --> 00:10:48 the density of water, and millions of times

00:10:48 --> 00:10:51 denser than the sun's visible surface. Trace

00:10:51 --> 00:10:54 elements in that dense helium absorb light

00:10:54 --> 00:10:56 across much wider bands than they normally

00:10:56 --> 00:10:58 would, and that pushes the colour off the

00:10:58 --> 00:10:59 usual track.

00:10:59 --> 00:11:02 Anna: So how do you see the colour of a star

00:11:02 --> 00:11:03 nobody can get close to?

00:11:04 --> 00:11:07 Avery: You don't. And this is the key caveat.

00:11:07 --> 00:11:10 No white dwarf is close enough for its colour

00:11:10 --> 00:11:13 to be seen directly. The team took spectra

00:11:13 --> 00:11:15 astronomers already have, and ran them

00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 through a model of human colour vision to

00:11:17 --> 00:11:19 calculate what colour the light would look

00:11:19 --> 00:11:22 like to your eye. And the green one,

00:11:23 --> 00:11:23 it's called

00:11:23 --> 00:11:27 WDJ1336435.

00:11:28 --> 00:11:30 It's around 4 degrees Celsius

00:11:30 --> 00:11:33 and it has swallowed rocky material from its

00:11:33 --> 00:11:36 own old planetary system that has

00:11:36 --> 00:11:38 loaded its atmosphere with calcium, lithium

00:11:38 --> 00:11:41 and sodium. Sodium in that dense

00:11:41 --> 00:11:43 atmosphere absorbs the orange part of the

00:11:43 --> 00:11:46 spectrum and what's left comes out chartreuse

00:11:46 --> 00:11:49 green. Hollins invites you to imagine

00:11:49 --> 00:11:51 standing on a planet and looking up at a

00:11:51 --> 00:11:52 green star.

00:11:53 --> 00:11:55 Anna: Which connects to the polluted white dwarf we

00:11:55 --> 00:11:57 covered in episode 201.

00:11:58 --> 00:12:01 Avery: Exactly the same family dead stars eating the

00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 remains of their planets. At the other

00:12:03 --> 00:12:06 extreme, WD J1011

00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 2845 just 48 light years

00:12:09 --> 00:12:11 away, has dredged carbon up uh, from its

00:12:11 --> 00:12:14 core. Carbon molecules squeeze almost all

00:12:14 --> 00:12:17 of its light beyond 600 nanometers and it

00:12:17 --> 00:12:20 uh, may be the reddest star ever recorded. A

00:12:20 --> 00:12:21 ah, deep salmon pink.

00:12:22 --> 00:12:24 Anna: But the average white dwarf

00:12:24 --> 00:12:25 is white,

00:12:25 --> 00:12:27 Avery: which is a nice correction.

00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 The team looked at the 151 white dwarfs

00:12:30 --> 00:12:33 within 20 parsecs about 65 light years.

00:12:34 --> 00:12:37 Five had unusual colours, two yellow

00:12:37 --> 00:12:40 and three pink. So roughly one in 30.

00:12:40 --> 00:12:43 For the rest the median colour temperature is

00:12:43 --> 00:12:46 about 6 Kelvin, which reads as

00:12:46 --> 00:12:49 white. Astronomers have tended to think of

00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 white dwarfs as blue only because the hot

00:12:51 --> 00:12:54 blue ones are brighter. So they dominate

00:12:54 --> 00:12:56 surveys that pick stars by brightness.

00:12:56 --> 00:12:59 Anna: That's a selection effect we've talked about

00:12:59 --> 00:13:01 before. Catalogues are detection

00:13:02 --> 00:13:04 limits, not censuses.

00:13:04 --> 00:13:07 Avery: And one honest audience note. The green

00:13:07 --> 00:13:10 star sits in the far northern sky,

00:13:10 --> 00:13:13 circumpolar from London and New York and it

00:13:13 --> 00:13:14 never rises from Sydney.

00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 It's far too faint to see the colour in any

00:13:16 --> 00:13:19 telescope anywhere, so nobody's missing

00:13:19 --> 00:13:19 out.

00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 Anna: Our next story is built on old data.

00:13:23 --> 00:13:26 Two new preprints, both posted to the

00:13:26 --> 00:13:29 archive on 8 October report

00:13:29 --> 00:13:32 Pulsars found by going back through archived

00:13:32 --> 00:13:34 Observations from Meiriang

00:13:34 --> 00:13:37 CSIRO's Parkes Radio Telescope in New

00:13:37 --> 00:13:37 South Wales.

00:13:38 --> 00:13:40 Avery: And they're not in our galaxy.

00:13:40 --> 00:13:43 Anna: They're in the Magellanic Clouds, the two

00:13:43 --> 00:13:46 satellite galaxies of the Milky Way, around

00:13:46 --> 00:13:49 160 to 200 light

00:13:49 --> 00:13:51 years away. Only just over

00:13:51 --> 00:13:54 1% of all known radio pulsars live there

00:13:54 --> 00:13:57 because at that distance they're faint and

00:13:57 --> 00:13:58 hard to catch.

00:13:58 --> 00:14:00 Avery: Remind us what a pulsar is.

00:14:00 --> 00:14:03 Anna: A neutron star, the collapsed

00:14:03 --> 00:14:05 core of a uh, massive star

00:14:06 --> 00:14:09 spinning and sweeping a beam of radio waves

00:14:09 --> 00:14:12 across us like a lighthouse. We

00:14:12 --> 00:14:14 see a pulse each time the beam goes past.

00:14:15 --> 00:14:17 The faint ones are buried in noise and you

00:14:17 --> 00:14:20 find them by folding the data, stacking

00:14:20 --> 00:14:23 it at a trial spin period until the pulses

00:14:23 --> 00:14:24 add up.

00:14:24 --> 00:14:26 Avery: So what did they do differently?

00:14:27 --> 00:14:29 Anna: The first paper is led by Rahul

00:14:29 --> 00:14:32 Sangar with co authors including Matthew

00:14:32 --> 00:14:34 Bales of Swinburne University of Technology.

00:14:35 --> 00:14:38 They reprocessed the original Parkes

00:14:38 --> 00:14:40 multibeam surveys of the Magellanic Clouds

00:14:41 --> 00:14:43 with search techniques tuned for faint

00:14:43 --> 00:14:45 pulsars with very narrow pulses

00:14:46 --> 00:14:48 folding candidates right down near the noise

00:14:48 --> 00:14:51 floor. They found six new pulsars

00:14:51 --> 00:14:54 five are in the Large Magellanic Cloud, and

00:14:54 --> 00:14:56 one of those spins once every 3.8

00:14:56 --> 00:14:59 seconds, the slowest pulsar known in

00:14:59 --> 00:15:02 either cloud, and the sixth seen

00:15:02 --> 00:15:04 toward the Small Magellanic Cloud. But it

00:15:04 --> 00:15:06 turns out to be in our own galaxy in the

00:15:06 --> 00:15:09 foreground. The new finds bring the count of

00:15:09 --> 00:15:11 radio pulsars known in the Large magellanic

00:15:11 --> 00:15:14 Cloud to 49. The team also finds that as

00:15:14 --> 00:15:16 a population, the Magellanic Cloud pulsars

00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 look consistent with ordinary pulsars in the

00:15:19 --> 00:15:19 Milky Way.

00:15:19 --> 00:15:21 Avery: And, um, the second paper.

00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 Anna: That's Weiyu Wing and Rahul Sengar. They went

00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 back through archival Park's pointings at

00:15:25 --> 00:15:27 supernova remnants in the Small Magellanic

00:15:27 --> 00:15:30 Cloud and found a Pulsar now called PSR

00:15:30 --> 00:15:33 J010372. It

00:15:33 --> 00:15:36 spins once every 1.33 seconds, which makes it

00:15:36 --> 00:15:38 the slowest radio pulsar known in the small

00:15:38 --> 00:15:40 cloud. Its dispersion measure, a measure of

00:15:40 --> 00:15:42 how much ionised gas the signal has passed

00:15:42 --> 00:15:44 through, is the second highest of any pulsar

00:15:44 --> 00:15:47 there. And it was missed by earlier searches

00:15:47 --> 00:15:48 of exactly the same data.

00:15:48 --> 00:15:49 Avery: Caveats.

00:15:49 --> 00:15:51 Anna: Both are preprints.

00:15:51 --> 00:15:54 The pulsars don't yet have precise timing

00:15:54 --> 00:15:56 positions, so the locations are

00:15:56 --> 00:15:59 approximate in one case, uncertain by

00:15:59 --> 00:16:02 several arcminutes. The authors say

00:16:02 --> 00:16:05 plainly that the next step is follow up and

00:16:05 --> 00:16:07 the bigger lesson they draw is about method.

00:16:08 --> 00:16:10 A faint signal that sits just under a

00:16:10 --> 00:16:13 threshold in one search can be recovered by a

00:16:13 --> 00:16:15 better one. There's a, uh.

00:16:15 --> 00:16:17 Avery: Both hemispheres twist here too.

00:16:17 --> 00:16:20 Anna: There is a separate paper Posted on

00:16:20 --> 00:16:23 the 12th reprocesses the green Bank

00:16:23 --> 00:16:26 Telescope's Northern Sky Survey with the

00:16:26 --> 00:16:29 same kind of approach and reports 51

00:16:29 --> 00:16:32 new pulsars. And. And it cites the Magellanic

00:16:32 --> 00:16:35 Cloud work as part of its motivation. But

00:16:35 --> 00:16:37 the clouds themselves are a southern story

00:16:38 --> 00:16:41 from Sydney. Both are circumpolar and

00:16:41 --> 00:16:44 they never rise from Los Angeles, New York

00:16:44 --> 00:16:45 or London.

00:16:45 --> 00:16:48 Avery: Asking an old question of archive data.

00:16:49 --> 00:16:51 We keep coming back to that one,

00:16:51 --> 00:16:54 Anna: proving yet again that old

00:16:54 --> 00:16:57 data can be good data when looked at

00:16:57 --> 00:16:58 through fresh eyes.

00:16:59 --> 00:17:01 Avery: Next, a star that exploded when the Universe

00:17:01 --> 00:17:04 was about 1.2 billion years old and was

00:17:04 --> 00:17:06 caught by the James Webb Space Telescope

00:17:06 --> 00:17:08 within days of going off.

00:17:08 --> 00:17:11 Anna: This one's a preprint, so let's flag that up

00:17:11 --> 00:17:11 front.

00:17:11 --> 00:17:14 Avery: Yes, it was posted on 29th September

00:17:14 --> 00:17:17 by Ming Yang, Zhang Yui Shen and

00:17:17 --> 00:17:19 colleagues from the Nexus programme, a web

00:17:19 --> 00:17:21 survey that keeps returning to the same patch

00:17:21 --> 00:17:24 of sky near the North Ecliptic Pole, coming

00:17:24 --> 00:17:27 back to the same field over and over is what

00:17:27 --> 00:17:29 lets you spot something new appearing.

00:17:29 --> 00:17:30 Anna: And something did.

00:17:31 --> 00:17:34 Avery: On 7 August this year, a new point of

00:17:34 --> 00:17:36 light appeared in a star forming galaxy at a

00:17:36 --> 00:17:39 redshift of 5.

00:17:39 --> 00:17:41 It's catalogued as at

00:17:41 --> 00:17:43 2026ABCK.

00:17:44 --> 00:17:46 It's faint, around magnitude

00:17:46 --> 00:17:49 27.5, and the team estimates it was

00:17:49 --> 00:17:51 seen roughly four to 10 days after the

00:17:51 --> 00:17:53 explosion in the star's own time.

00:17:54 --> 00:17:57 Anna: That phrase in the star's own

00:17:57 --> 00:17:58 time matters.

00:17:58 --> 00:18:01 Avery: Here it does. At a redshift

00:18:01 --> 00:18:03 of about five, time itself appears

00:18:03 --> 00:18:06 stretched by a factor of six. So

00:18:06 --> 00:18:09 four to ten days at uh, the explosion shows

00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 up to us as, uh, somewhere around a month to

00:18:11 --> 00:18:14 two months. That stretching is

00:18:14 --> 00:18:17 actually helpful because it slows the early

00:18:17 --> 00:18:20 fast changing phase down enough to catch.

00:18:21 --> 00:18:22 Anna: And what does it look like?

00:18:22 --> 00:18:25 Avery: Hot and bright for its age. The

00:18:25 --> 00:18:28 team says it's hotter and more luminous than

00:18:28 --> 00:18:31 normal type 2 supernovae at comparable early

00:18:31 --> 00:18:34 phases. Those are the explosions of

00:18:34 --> 00:18:36 massive stars whose cores collapse.

00:18:36 --> 00:18:39 Its position off centre between two

00:18:39 --> 00:18:42 parts of its host galaxy also fits a massive

00:18:42 --> 00:18:44 star rather than a black hole flaring in the

00:18:44 --> 00:18:47 core. The authors call it the

00:18:47 --> 00:18:50 first robustly detected transient at a

00:18:50 --> 00:18:52 redshift around 5 or beyond in a

00:18:52 --> 00:18:54 field without gravitational lensing.

00:18:55 --> 00:18:58 Anna: That's a distinction from SN EOS earlier this

00:18:58 --> 00:18:58 year.

00:18:59 --> 00:19:02 Avery: Right. SN EOS at a slightly higher

00:19:02 --> 00:19:04 redshift was magnified by a gravitational

00:19:05 --> 00:19:07 lens and confirmed with a spectrum.

00:19:07 --> 00:19:10 This one was found in an ordinary

00:19:10 --> 00:19:13 blank field, which says that regular

00:19:13 --> 00:19:16 high cadence web surveys can catch these

00:19:16 --> 00:19:17 young explosions directly.

00:19:18 --> 00:19:21 Anna: And the caveat with this one,

00:19:21 --> 00:19:21 there

00:19:21 --> 00:19:24 Avery: is no spectrum of the transient.

00:19:24 --> 00:19:27 Without one, its classification stays

00:19:27 --> 00:19:30 uncertain. And the authors say it could also

00:19:30 --> 00:19:32 be a super luminous supernova caught on the

00:19:32 --> 00:19:35 way up. So a strong candidate, a

00:19:35 --> 00:19:38 good demonstration of the method and, um, not

00:19:38 --> 00:19:39 M yet a confirmed type.

00:19:40 --> 00:19:43 Anna: Time for some quick hits. First, ESA's

00:19:43 --> 00:19:45 Hera, its first braking manoeuvre,

00:19:45 --> 00:19:48 BRM1 was scheduled for early Thursday

00:19:48 --> 00:19:51 morning, European time. Three thrusters

00:19:51 --> 00:19:54 firing together for 93 minutes to shed

00:19:54 --> 00:19:56 a few hundred metres per second relative to

00:19:56 --> 00:19:59 the asteroid pair Didymos and Dimorphos

00:19:59 --> 00:20:02 at the time of recording. ESA hasn't yet

00:20:02 --> 00:20:04 published confirmation, so we'll bring you

00:20:04 --> 00:20:05 the result as soon as it's out.

00:20:05 --> 00:20:08 Avery: And ESA was going to check it through New

00:20:08 --> 00:20:10 Norcia in Western Australia.

00:20:10 --> 00:20:13 Anna: That's right. The second shorter burn,

00:20:13 --> 00:20:16 around 31 minutes, is set for Thursday the

00:20:16 --> 00:20:19 22nd. Then three small manoeuvres late in

00:20:19 --> 00:20:21 the month before arrival in November.

00:20:21 --> 00:20:24 Meanwhile, at the space station

00:20:25 --> 00:20:28 SpaceX's CRS 35 cargo Dragon

00:20:28 --> 00:20:31 docked on Thursday about 27 minutes

00:20:31 --> 00:20:33 past 10 in the morning US Eastern Time.

00:20:34 --> 00:20:37 That's 27 past 1 on Friday morning in

00:20:37 --> 00:20:38 Sydney. It brought more than

00:20:38 --> 00:20:41 6 pounds of supplies, including

00:20:41 --> 00:20:44 the last two rollout solar arrays which are

00:20:44 --> 00:20:46 due to be installed on spacewalks. NASA will

00:20:46 --> 00:20:49 preview on Tuesday with Anil Menon and

00:20:49 --> 00:20:51 Canada's Joshua Kutryk.

00:20:51 --> 00:20:52 Avery: And um, Monday.

00:20:53 --> 00:20:56 Anna: Monday is the eve of Japan's Martian Moons

00:20:56 --> 00:20:59 exploration mission. MMX is set to

00:20:59 --> 00:21:02 launch on an H3 rocket from Tanegashima at

00:21:02 --> 00:21:04 4:41 minutes past 4 on Tuesday morning

00:21:04 --> 00:21:05 Japan time.

00:21:06 --> 00:21:08 That's 6:41 on Tuesday morning in

00:21:08 --> 00:21:11 Sydney and Monday afternoon in the Americas.

00:21:11 --> 00:21:14 It's going to Phobos to bring back a sample

00:21:14 --> 00:21:17 which is due to land in Australia in 2031.

00:21:17 --> 00:21:18 Full preview on Monday.

00:21:19 --> 00:21:22 Avery: Let's look up now. The moon

00:21:22 --> 00:21:25 is a waxing crescent this evening and it

00:21:25 --> 00:21:28 reaches first quarter on Sunday the 18th

00:21:28 --> 00:21:30 at 12 minutes past 4 in the afternoon

00:21:31 --> 00:21:34 universal time. That's 3:12

00:21:34 --> 00:21:36 on Monday morning in Sydney, around

00:21:37 --> 00:21:39 midday on Sunday in New York and

00:21:39 --> 00:21:41 Sunday morning in Los Angeles

00:21:42 --> 00:21:45 and full moon Monday the 26th

00:21:45 --> 00:21:48 at uh, 11 minutes past 4 universal time.

00:21:49 --> 00:21:51 That's the afternoon of the 26th in Sydney,

00:21:52 --> 00:21:55 just after midnight on the 26th in New York

00:21:55 --> 00:21:58 and the evening of the 25th in in Los

00:21:58 --> 00:22:00 Angeles. A reminder for UK

00:22:00 --> 00:22:03 listeners that your clocks go back on

00:22:03 --> 00:22:06 Sunday the 25th while North America

00:22:06 --> 00:22:08 changes on the 1st of November.

00:22:08 --> 00:22:11 Anna: The big event this week is a meteor

00:22:11 --> 00:22:11 shower.

00:22:12 --> 00:22:15 Avery: The Orionids, made of dust shed by

00:22:15 --> 00:22:17 Hallie's comet peak on the night of the

00:22:17 --> 00:22:19 21st into the 22nd.

00:22:20 --> 00:22:22 They're a modest shower, but the good news

00:22:22 --> 00:22:25 this year is that the gibbous moon sets

00:22:25 --> 00:22:28 before dawn in all four of our cities at

00:22:28 --> 00:22:30 about 2:50 in London, 10 past three

00:22:30 --> 00:22:33 in New York, 20 past three in Los

00:22:33 --> 00:22:35 Angeles, and just after half past three in

00:22:35 --> 00:22:38 Sydney. The window between moonset and

00:22:38 --> 00:22:40 dawn is the one to use.

00:22:40 --> 00:22:43 Anna: And this one works for both hemispheres.

00:22:44 --> 00:22:46 Avery: It does because the radiant near

00:22:46 --> 00:22:49 Orion's raised club sits close to the

00:22:49 --> 00:22:52 celestial equator. At nautical Dawn on the

00:22:52 --> 00:22:54 22nd, it's about 40 degrees up from Sydney,

00:22:55 --> 00:22:57 52 from London, 62 from New York and

00:22:58 --> 00:23:00 68 from Los Angeles. Northern skies

00:23:00 --> 00:23:03 have the edge, but Sydney's very much in the

00:23:03 --> 00:23:03 game.

00:23:03 --> 00:23:05 Anna: What about the evening?

00:23:06 --> 00:23:09 Avery: This one favours the south. Mercury is a

00:23:09 --> 00:23:11 lovely evening object for us

00:23:12 --> 00:23:14 tonight. Half an hour after sunset, it's

00:23:14 --> 00:23:17 about 19 degrees up in the west from Sydney

00:23:17 --> 00:23:20 at about magnitude 0, and it doesn't set

00:23:20 --> 00:23:23 until after 9. From Los Angeles, it's

00:23:23 --> 00:23:25 only 5 degrees up. From New York 3.

00:23:25 --> 00:23:27 And from London, it's already below the

00:23:27 --> 00:23:28 horizon at that point.

00:23:29 --> 00:23:31 Anna: And Venus is leaving.

00:23:32 --> 00:23:34 Avery: Venus is heading for inferior conjunction,

00:23:35 --> 00:23:37 passing between us and the sun around the

00:23:37 --> 00:23:38 24th.

00:23:39 --> 00:23:41 From Sydney tonight, it's only about 7

00:23:41 --> 00:23:43 degrees up at civil dusk and dropping fast

00:23:44 --> 00:23:47 in the north. It's already gone. It comes

00:23:47 --> 00:23:49 back as a morning star next month.

00:23:49 --> 00:23:50 Anna: Saturn's still around.

00:23:52 --> 00:23:54 Avery: Saturn, just past opposition, is in the

00:23:54 --> 00:23:57 east after dark and climbs all evening

00:23:57 --> 00:24:00 at, uh, dusk Tonight it's about 19 degrees up

00:24:00 --> 00:24:03 from Sydney and lower further north. But

00:24:03 --> 00:24:05 give it an hour or two wherever you are. The

00:24:05 --> 00:24:08 moon passes about 6 degrees from Saturn on

00:24:08 --> 00:24:10 the 24th, and the mornings

00:24:10 --> 00:24:11 Anna: belong to the north.

00:24:12 --> 00:24:15 Avery: They do. Mars and Jupiter keep

00:24:15 --> 00:24:17 closing in the predawn sky.

00:24:17 --> 00:24:20 They're about 10 degrees apart on the 22nd,

00:24:20 --> 00:24:23 and they'll be just over a degree apart on

00:24:23 --> 00:24:25 the 16th of November. At nautical

00:24:25 --> 00:24:28 dawn on the 22nd, Jupiter is about

00:24:28 --> 00:24:31 50 degrees up and Mars nearly

00:24:31 --> 00:24:33 60. From New York and Los Angeles

00:24:34 --> 00:24:37 from Sydney, both are only around 20 to

00:24:37 --> 00:24:40 25 degrees up. And our stories

00:24:40 --> 00:24:43 today, a nicely balanced week.

00:24:43 --> 00:24:45 The Magellanic Clouds, home of those new

00:24:45 --> 00:24:48 pulsars, and the Southern Protostar

00:24:48 --> 00:24:51 BHR 71, are circumpolar from

00:24:51 --> 00:24:53 Sydney and never rise from the north.

00:24:53 --> 00:24:56 The green white dwarf and the Perseus Cloud

00:24:56 --> 00:24:59 are northern targets. Neither the pulsars

00:24:59 --> 00:25:01 nor the green star is anything you'd see by

00:25:01 --> 00:25:04 eye. So the sky's best offer this week is

00:25:04 --> 00:25:06 the Orionids together.

00:25:07 --> 00:25:10 Anna: And our standing reminder, never look at

00:25:10 --> 00:25:12 Avery: the sun directly or through binoculars, a

00:25:12 --> 00:25:15 telescope or a camera. Without a proper solar

00:25:15 --> 00:25:17 filter certified to the ISO

00:25:17 --> 00:25:19 123122 standard.

00:25:20 --> 00:25:23 Sunglasses are not enough and eye damage can

00:25:23 --> 00:25:24 happen without any pain.

00:25:24 --> 00:25:27 Anna: That's the episode. Heavy

00:25:27 --> 00:25:30 methanol around a newborn star. The first

00:25:30 --> 00:25:31 green star.

00:25:32 --> 00:25:34 Six pulsars recovered from the Parkes archive

00:25:34 --> 00:25:37 and another from the small cloud. And a

00:25:37 --> 00:25:39 supernova caught days old at

00:25:39 --> 00:25:40 redshift 5.

00:25:41 --> 00:25:44 Avery: Plus HERA's braking burns, a new delivery at

00:25:44 --> 00:25:47 the space station. And the Orionids to look

00:25:47 --> 00:25:48 forward to.

00:25:48 --> 00:25:51 Anna: If you've got a question about any of today's

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