Terraforming Mars: A Real Plan & Webb's Dying Star Revelation
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Terraforming Mars: A Real Plan & Webb's Dying Star Revelation

# Astronomy Daily - S05E22
## Monday, January 26, 2026
Welcome to Astronomy Daily! Join hosts Anna and Avery as they explore the latest developments in space and astronomy, from ambitious plans to terraform Mars to stunning new views of dying stars.
### Episode Highlights
**Mars Terraforming Gets Serious**
Scientists unveil a comprehensive blueprint for transforming Mars into a habitable world. Discover the three-phase plan using Martian resources, engineered nanoparticles, and hardy microorganisms that could warm the Red Planet by 30°C and eventually create breathable air. But should we terraform Mars at all?
**Harvesting Water from Mars' Atmosphere**
While underground ice remains the primary water source for future Mars missions, researchers reveal how atmospheric moisture could provide a crucial backup. Learn about the innovative technologies that could make Mars settlements more self-sufficient.
**Chandra's Cosmic Catalog Milestone**
NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory has now cataloged over 1.3 million X-ray detections across the sky. We explore this treasure trove of data spanning 22 years of observations, including a stunning view of the Galactic Center with over 3,300 sources in just 60 light-years.
**Earthquake Sensors Track Space Debris**
Ingenious new research shows how seismic monitoring networks can track dangerous falling satellites in near real-time. Discover how scientists reconstructed the trajectory and breakup of China's Shenzhou-15 module using earthquake sensors.
**Water Worlds or Lava Planets?**
Shocking new findings suggest 98% of planets we thought were ocean-bearing "hycean worlds" might actually be molten rock. Learn about the Solidification Shoreline model that's rewriting our understanding of sub-Neptune exoplanets.
**Webb Captures a Dying Star's Beauty**
The James Webb Space Telescope reveals the Helix Nebula in unprecedented detail, showing us the eventual fate of our own Sun. Witness stellar recycling in action as a dying star distributes the building blocks of future worlds.
### Links & Resources
- Research on Mars terraforming strategies
- Advances in Space Research journal study on atmospheric water harvesting
- Chandra Source Catalog: cxc.cfa.harvard.edu/csc/
- Science journal publication on seismic debris tracking
- arXiv preprint on sub-Neptune exoplanet composition
- Webb Space Telescope Helix Nebula observations
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 Anna: Welcome to Astronomy Daily, your source for

00:00:03 --> 00:00:05 the latest space and astronomy news. I'm

00:00:05 --> 00:00:06 Anna.

00:00:06 --> 00:00:08 Avery: And I'm Avery. We've got another stellar

00:00:08 --> 00:00:11 episode lined up for you today. Monday,

00:00:11 --> 00:00:13 January 26, 2026.

00:00:14 --> 00:00:17 Anna: That's right. Today we're taking you on quite

00:00:17 --> 00:00:19 a journey through the cosmos. We'll be

00:00:19 --> 00:00:22 exploring two fascinating Mars storeys that

00:00:22 --> 00:00:24 paint very different pictures of the Red

00:00:24 --> 00:00:26 Planet's future. From terraforming dreams

00:00:26 --> 00:00:29 to atmospheric water harvesting for survival.

00:00:30 --> 00:00:31 Avery: Plus, we've got some incredible disc

00:00:31 --> 00:00:34 discoveries from across the universe. We'll

00:00:34 --> 00:00:36 reveal how NASA's Chandra Observatory has

00:00:36 --> 00:00:39 catalogued over 1.3 million x

00:00:39 --> 00:00:42 ray sources, discover an ingenious new use

00:00:42 --> 00:00:44 for earthquake sensors that could save lives,

00:00:44 --> 00:00:47 and uncover why those water worlds we've been

00:00:47 --> 00:00:50 excited about might actually be lava

00:00:50 --> 00:00:51 planets in the skies.

00:00:51 --> 00:00:54 Anna: And we'll finish with a breathtaking look at

00:00:54 --> 00:00:57 our cosmic future, courtesy of the James Webb

00:00:57 --> 00:00:59 Space Telescope's latest images of a dying

00:00:59 --> 00:01:02 star. So settle in because we're about to

00:01:02 --> 00:01:04 explore the univers together.

00:01:04 --> 00:01:06 Avery: Let's get started, Avery.

00:01:06 --> 00:01:08 Anna: Let's kick things off with what could be one

00:01:08 --> 00:01:11 of humanity's most ambitious projects ever.

00:01:11 --> 00:01:13 Scientists are saying it's time to take

00:01:13 --> 00:01:16 terraforming Mars seriously and they've got a

00:01:16 --> 00:01:18 roadmap to make it happen.

00:01:18 --> 00:01:20 Avery: This is fascinating stuff, Anna. Uh, for

00:01:20 --> 00:01:23 decades, terraforming Mars has been the stuff

00:01:23 --> 00:01:26 of science fiction. But new research suggests

00:01:26 --> 00:01:28 we might actually have the tools to pull it

00:01:28 --> 00:01:30 off. A team of planetary scientists,

00:01:30 --> 00:01:33 biologists and engineers has published what

00:01:33 --> 00:01:35 amounts to a blueprint for transforming the

00:01:35 --> 00:01:37 Red Planet into a habitable world.

00:01:38 --> 00:01:40 Anna: What's really interesting is the timeline

00:01:40 --> 00:01:42 they're proposing. This isn't a quick fix.

00:01:42 --> 00:01:45 We're talking about a, uh, multi generational

00:01:45 --> 00:01:48 project that could take centuries. But the

00:01:48 --> 00:01:50 key breakthrough is that they believe we can

00:01:50 --> 00:01:52 use resources already on Mars rather

00:01:52 --> 00:01:54 than shipping everything from Earth.

00:01:54 --> 00:01:57 Avery: Exactly. The plan has three distinct

00:01:57 --> 00:02:00 phases. Phase one is all about warming the

00:02:00 --> 00:02:03 planet. Right now, Mars averages around minus

00:02:03 --> 00:02:05 70 degrees Celsius. The scientists propose

00:02:05 --> 00:02:08 using engineered nanoparticles made from

00:02:08 --> 00:02:11 Martian dust, shaped like tiny rods and

00:02:11 --> 00:02:13 released into the atmosphere. These particles

00:02:13 --> 00:02:16 would trap escaping heat and scatter sunlight

00:02:16 --> 00:02:18 towards the surface, potentially warming Mars

00:02:18 --> 00:02:20 by more than 30 degrees Celsius.

00:02:21 --> 00:02:23 Anna: And here's the clever part. This method is

00:02:23 --> 00:02:26 over 5000 times more efficient than previous

00:02:26 --> 00:02:29 terraforming schemes. University of

00:02:29 --> 00:02:32 Chicago planetary scientist Edwin Kite, one

00:02:32 --> 00:02:34 of the study's co authors, notes that Mars

00:02:34 --> 00:02:37 was habitable in the past. So greening

00:02:37 --> 00:02:39 Mars could be viewed as the ultimate

00:02:39 --> 00:02:41 environmental restoration challenge.

00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 Avery: Phase two brings in biology. Once

00:02:44 --> 00:02:46 temperatures rise enough to melt some of

00:02:46 --> 00:02:48 Mars's vast ice deposits, scientists would

00:02:48 --> 00:02:50 introduce genetically engineered

00:02:50 --> 00:02:53 extremophiles, hardy microorganisms that

00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 can survive in the harshest environments.

00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 These pioneer species would kick off

00:02:58 --> 00:03:01 ecological succession, creating organic

00:03:01 --> 00:03:03 matter and slowly changing the chemistry of

00:03:03 --> 00:03:04 the surface and atmosphere.

00:03:05 --> 00:03:07 Anna: And the final phase is the longest and most

00:03:07 --> 00:03:10 ambitious, building a stable biosphere

00:03:10 --> 00:03:13 with oxygen rich air. The goal is a

00:03:13 --> 00:03:16 0.1 bar oxygen atmosphere, which would be

00:03:16 --> 00:03:18 enough to sustain human life without pressure

00:03:18 --> 00:03:21 suits. Harvard planetary scientist Robin

00:03:21 --> 00:03:24 Wordsworth puts it beautifully. Life is

00:03:24 --> 00:03:26 precious. We know of nowhere else in the

00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 universe where it exists. We have a duty to

00:03:29 --> 00:03:31 conserve it on Earth, but also to consider

00:03:31 --> 00:03:34 how we could begin to propagate it to other

00:03:34 --> 00:03:34 worlds.

00:03:35 --> 00:03:37 Avery: But this isn't just about making Mars

00:03:37 --> 00:03:39 habitable. Nina Lanza from Los Alamos

00:03:39 --> 00:03:42 National Laboratory sees Mars as a prime

00:03:42 --> 00:03:44 testbed for planetary engineering. She

00:03:44 --> 00:03:46 suggests that if we want to learn how to

00:03:46 --> 00:03:48 modify our environment here on Earth to keep

00:03:48 --> 00:03:51 it habitable, maybe it would be better to

00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 experiment on Mars first, rather than being

00:03:53 --> 00:03:55 too bold with our home planet.

00:03:55 --> 00:03:58 Anna: Of course, there are serious ethical

00:03:58 --> 00:04:00 considerations. As Lanza points out, if

00:04:00 --> 00:04:03 we terraform Mars, we'll really change it in

00:04:03 --> 00:04:06 ways that may or may not be reversible.

00:04:06 --> 00:04:09 Mars has its own history and we might lose

00:04:09 --> 00:04:11 the opportunity to study how planets form and

00:04:11 --> 00:04:13 evolve in their natural state.

00:04:13 --> 00:04:15 Avery: The researchers stress that we need to start

00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 preparing now. Even though actual

00:04:18 --> 00:04:20 terraforming is still far off. Upcoming

00:04:20 --> 00:04:23 Mars missions in 2028 or 2031

00:04:23 --> 00:04:26 should include small scale experiments to

00:04:26 --> 00:04:28 test these strategies, such as warming

00:04:28 --> 00:04:31 localised regions. Any technology deployed

00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 must be reversible, controllable and

00:04:34 --> 00:04:35 biologically safe.

00:04:35 --> 00:04:38 Anna: It's an audacious vision. But as the team

00:04:38 --> 00:04:41 points out, 30 years ago, terraforming

00:04:41 --> 00:04:44 Mars wasn't just hard, it was impossible.

00:04:44 --> 00:04:47 Today, with advances in technology and our

00:04:47 --> 00:04:49 understanding of Mars, it's becoming a real

00:04:49 --> 00:04:52 possibility. Whether we should do it is a

00:04:52 --> 00:04:53 question we'll need to answer as a

00:04:53 --> 00:04:54 civilization.

00:04:55 --> 00:04:57 Avery: Sticking with Mars, Anna Our next storey

00:04:57 --> 00:04:59 takes a more immediate look at how future

00:04:59 --> 00:05:02 astronauts might survive on the Red Planet.

00:05:02 --> 00:05:04 New research suggests that the Martian

00:05:04 --> 00:05:06 atmosphere itself could provide a vital

00:05:06 --> 00:05:08 backup water source.

00:05:08 --> 00:05:11 Anna: This is really practical thinking, Avery.

00:05:11 --> 00:05:13 While underground ice remains the most

00:05:13 --> 00:05:15 promising long term water source for Mars

00:05:15 --> 00:05:17 missions, scientists are now exploring

00:05:17 --> 00:05:20 atmospheric water harvesting as an adaptable

00:05:20 --> 00:05:23 solution for scenarios where subsurface

00:05:23 --> 00:05:24 resources are inaccessible.

00:05:25 --> 00:05:27 Avery: The study, led by Dr. Vasilis Englesakis

00:05:27 --> 00:05:30 of Strathclyde University and published in

00:05:30 --> 00:05:33 Advances in Space Research, emphasises

00:05:33 --> 00:05:34 building a self sufficient water

00:05:34 --> 00:05:37 infrastructure. As Dr. Anglizakis explains,

00:05:38 --> 00:05:40 reliable access to water would be essential

00:05:40 --> 00:05:43 for human survival on Mars. Not only for

00:05:43 --> 00:05:45 drinking, but also for producing oxygen and

00:05:45 --> 00:05:48 fuel, which would reduce dependence on Earth

00:05:48 --> 00:05:48 based supplies.

00:05:49 --> 00:05:52 Anna: The challenge is that Mars atmosphere is

00:05:52 --> 00:05:54 extremely thin and cold, but it does

00:05:54 --> 00:05:57 contain trace amounts of water vapour that

00:05:57 --> 00:05:59 could be collected and condensed using

00:05:59 --> 00:06:02 specialised technology. The study introduces

00:06:02 --> 00:06:04 novel approaches inspired by Earth based

00:06:04 --> 00:06:07 dehumidification and sorption technologies.

00:06:07 --> 00:06:10 Avery: What makes this particularly valuable is the

00:06:10 --> 00:06:12 flexibility. While underground ice deposits

00:06:12 --> 00:06:15 are seen as the most practical long term

00:06:15 --> 00:06:17 solution, their accessibility is limited,

00:06:17 --> 00:06:19 especially near likely landing zones for

00:06:19 --> 00:06:22 human missions. Since the precise location of

00:06:22 --> 00:06:25 usable ice is uncertain and excavation

00:06:25 --> 00:06:27 technology is still evolving, having

00:06:27 --> 00:06:29 alternative sources is essential.

00:06:29 --> 00:06:32 Anna: Atmospheric water harvesting offers a mobile,

00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 adaptable alternative. The equipment would be

00:06:35 --> 00:06:37 portable, making it a compelling addition to

00:06:37 --> 00:06:39 the toolkit for sustaining human life on

00:06:39 --> 00:06:42 Mars. As Dr. Inglezakis notes, this

00:06:42 --> 00:06:44 study is one of the first to compare the

00:06:44 --> 00:06:46 various technologies that could be deployed

00:06:47 --> 00:06:49 to recover water in a Martian environment.

00:06:49 --> 00:06:52 Avery: The key takeaway is that future Mars missions

00:06:52 --> 00:06:54 will require not just one solution, but a uh,

00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 layered approach. Combining underground ice

00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 extraction, soil moisture recovery and

00:07:00 --> 00:07:02 atmospheric harvesting will allow missions to

00:07:02 --> 00:07:04 adapt to different environmental and

00:07:04 --> 00:07:05 logistical conditions.

00:07:06 --> 00:07:08 Anna: While the process is energy intensive,

00:07:08 --> 00:07:11 atmospheric harvesting can serve as a crucial

00:07:11 --> 00:07:14 contingency, especially in emergencies or

00:07:14 --> 00:07:16 during long range missions. The research

00:07:16 --> 00:07:18 offers insights that could make future space

00:07:18 --> 00:07:21 exploration missions more self sufficient and

00:07:21 --> 00:07:22 sustainable.

00:07:22 --> 00:07:25 Avery: It's this kind of practical, multifaceted

00:07:25 --> 00:07:27 planning that will ultimately make long

00:07:27 --> 00:07:29 duration Mars missions and potential

00:07:29 --> 00:07:31 colonisation efforts successful. Every

00:07:31 --> 00:07:34 backup system counts when you're 225

00:07:34 --> 00:07:37 million kilometres away from home, from the.

00:07:37 --> 00:07:39 Anna: Red Planet to the entire cosmos.

00:07:39 --> 00:07:42 Avery let's talk about NASA's Chandra X

00:07:42 --> 00:07:45 Ray Observatory and its incredible catalogue

00:07:45 --> 00:07:46 of cosmic recordings.

00:07:46 --> 00:07:48 Avery: Anna uh, this is like the ultimate

00:07:48 --> 00:07:51 astronomical music collection. The Chandra

00:07:51 --> 00:07:53 source catalogue now contains over

00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 1.3 million X ray detections

00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 across the sky, representing 22 years of

00:07:59 --> 00:08:01 observations from one of NASA's great

00:08:01 --> 00:08:02 observatories.

00:08:02 --> 00:08:04 Anna: The latest version, called CSC

00:08:05 --> 00:08:08 2.1 contains data through the end

00:08:08 --> 00:08:10 of 2020 and includes over

00:08:10 --> 00:08:13 400 unique compact and

00:08:13 --> 00:08:16 extended sources. This catalogue is

00:08:16 --> 00:08:18 a treasure trove for scientists, providing

00:08:18 --> 00:08:21 everything from precise positions in the sky

00:08:21 --> 00:08:24 to detailed information about X ray

00:08:24 --> 00:08:24 energies.

00:08:25 --> 00:08:27 Avery: What makes this particularly valuable is that

00:08:27 --> 00:08:30 it allows scientists using other telescopes

00:08:30 --> 00:08:33 both on the ground and in space, including

00:08:33 --> 00:08:36 NASA's James Webb and Hubble telescopes,

00:08:36 --> 00:08:38 to combine Chandra's unique X ray data with

00:08:38 --> 00:08:41 information from other wavelengths of light.

00:08:41 --> 00:08:44 Anna: To illustrate the richness of this catalogue,

00:08:44 --> 00:08:47 NASA released a stunning new image of the

00:08:47 --> 00:08:49 Galactic Centre, the region around the

00:08:49 --> 00:08:52 supermassive Black hole at the heart of the

00:08:52 --> 00:08:54 Milky Way, Sagittarius A.

00:08:55 --> 00:08:57 In just a 60 light year span,

00:08:57 --> 00:09:00 Chandra has detected over 3300

00:09:00 --> 00:09:02 individual X ray sources.

00:09:02 --> 00:09:04 Avery: That's incredible when you think about it.

00:09:05 --> 00:09:07 3300 sources and what amounts to a

00:09:07 --> 00:09:10 pinprick on the entire sky. This image

00:09:10 --> 00:09:13 represents 86 observations added together,

00:09:14 --> 00:09:16 totaling over 3 million seconds of Chandra

00:09:16 --> 00:09:17 observing time.

00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 Anna: They've also created a fascinating

00:09:20 --> 00:09:23 sonification of the catalogue, translating

00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 the astronomical data into sound. The

00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 sonification encompasses the new map that

00:09:28 --> 00:09:31 includes all of Chandra's observations from

00:09:31 --> 00:09:34 its launch through 2021, showing how

00:09:34 --> 00:09:37 X ray sources appear and reappear over

00:09:37 --> 00:09:39 time through different musical notes.

00:09:39 --> 00:09:42 Avery: In the visualisation, each X ray detection is

00:09:42 --> 00:09:45 represented by a circle, and the size of a

00:09:45 --> 00:09:46 circle is determined by the number of

00:09:46 --> 00:09:49 detections in that location over time. You

00:09:49 --> 00:09:51 can see the core of the Milky Way in the

00:09:51 --> 00:09:53 centre and the galactic plane stretching

00:09:53 --> 00:09:55 horizontally across the image.

00:09:55 --> 00:09:58 Anna: And here's the exciting part. Since

00:09:58 --> 00:10:01 Chandra continues to be fully operational,

00:10:01 --> 00:10:03 the catalogue keeps growing. The video

00:10:04 --> 00:10:06 transitions to and beyond after

00:10:06 --> 00:10:09 2021 as the telescope continues

00:10:09 --> 00:10:10 to collect new observ.

00:10:11 --> 00:10:14 Avery: This catalogue represents decades of cutting

00:10:14 --> 00:10:16 edge science and will continue to be an

00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 invaluable resource for astronomers studying

00:10:18 --> 00:10:21 everything from stellar evolution to the

00:10:21 --> 00:10:24 nature of black holes. It's a testament to

00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 the longevity and continued productivity of

00:10:26 --> 00:10:27 the Chandra mission.

00:10:28 --> 00:10:31 Anna: Now for something completely different. Avery

00:10:31 --> 00:10:33 scientists have found an ingenious new use

00:10:33 --> 00:10:36 for earthquake sensors, tracking dangerous

00:10:36 --> 00:10:39 space debris as it falls back to Earth.

00:10:39 --> 00:10:42 Avery: This is such a clever solution to a growing

00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 problem. Every year, thousands of discarded

00:10:45 --> 00:10:47 satellites orbit our planet and an increasing

00:10:47 --> 00:10:49 number are falling back into Earth's

00:10:49 --> 00:10:51 atmosphere. While most disintegrate before

00:10:51 --> 00:10:54 hitting the ground, some survive long enough

00:10:54 --> 00:10:55 to pose real dangers.

00:10:55 --> 00:10:58 Anna: Researchers from Johns Hopkins University and

00:10:58 --> 00:11:01 the University of London have demonstrated

00:11:01 --> 00:11:04 that existing seismic monitoring networks can

00:11:04 --> 00:11:06 track these falling satellites with

00:11:06 --> 00:11:09 remarkable accuracy. The investigation was

00:11:09 --> 00:11:12 led by Benjamin Fernando, a UH postdoctoral

00:11:12 --> 00:11:14 fellow at Johns Hopkins, who studies seismic

00:11:14 --> 00:11:17 activity on both Earth and other planets.

00:11:18 --> 00:11:20 Avery: Here's how it works. When falling objects re

00:11:20 --> 00:11:23 enter Earth's atmosphere at high speed, they

00:11:23 --> 00:11:26 generate sonic booms. These sonic

00:11:26 --> 00:11:28 booms create shock waves that ripple through

00:11:28 --> 00:11:30 the ground. And seismometers can detect this

00:11:30 --> 00:11:32 seismic energy just like they detect

00:11:32 --> 00:11:33 earthquakes.

00:11:33 --> 00:11:36 Anna: The team demonstrated this by analysing the

00:11:36 --> 00:11:39 April 2, 2024 re entry

00:11:39 --> 00:11:42 of China's Shenzhou 15 orbital

00:11:42 --> 00:11:45 module. This module was about 3

00:11:45 --> 00:11:47 1/2ft in diameter and weighed over

00:11:47 --> 00:11:50 1.5 tonnes. Definitely

00:11:50 --> 00:11:52 dangerous if any component reached Earth's

00:11:52 --> 00:11:53 surface.

00:11:53 --> 00:11:56 Avery: Using127 Seismometers in

00:11:56 --> 00:11:58 Southern California. They tracked the module

00:11:58 --> 00:12:01 as it travelled at Hypersonic velocities

00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 between Mach 25 and Mach 30,

00:12:04 --> 00:12:06 roughly 10 times faster than the world's

00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 fastest jet. From the seismometer data, they

00:12:09 --> 00:12:11 reconstructed the object's trajectory,

00:12:12 --> 00:12:14 determining it followed a northeasterly path

00:12:14 --> 00:12:16 over Santa Barbara and Las Vegas.

00:12:16 --> 00:12:19 Anna: What's particularly impressive is that their

00:12:19 --> 00:12:22 reconstruction placed the flight path about

00:12:22 --> 00:12:25 25 miles north of the predicted RE entry

00:12:25 --> 00:12:27 path from orbital tracking alone. This

00:12:27 --> 00:12:29 highlights the limitations of current

00:12:29 --> 00:12:32 tracking methods once objects enter the

00:12:32 --> 00:12:33 denser parts of the atmosphere.

00:12:34 --> 00:12:36 Avery: The seismic data also revealed the breakup

00:12:36 --> 00:12:39 pattern. Initially the signals showed the

00:12:39 --> 00:12:42 spacecraft was mostly intact during its high

00:12:42 --> 00:12:44 altitude trajectory. Later signals

00:12:44 --> 00:12:47 indicated complex waveforms showing

00:12:47 --> 00:12:49 fragmentation about eight to 11

00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 unique breakup events within just two

00:12:51 --> 00:12:52 seconds.

00:12:52 --> 00:12:55 Anna: This gradual degradation pattern is crucial

00:12:55 --> 00:12:58 information. It suggested that dense

00:12:58 --> 00:13:01 reinforced components likely survived long

00:13:01 --> 00:13:03 enough to reach the lower atmosphere,

00:13:03 --> 00:13:05 increasing their chances of landing intact.

00:13:06 --> 00:13:08 Avery: Beyond just tracking where debris lands, this

00:13:08 --> 00:13:10 method addresses environmental concerns.

00:13:11 --> 00:13:13 Falling debris can produce tiny particulate

00:13:13 --> 00:13:15 matter containing toxic propellants or

00:13:15 --> 00:13:18 radioactive materials. For example,

00:13:18 --> 00:13:20 Chilean scientists found man made plutonium

00:13:20 --> 00:13:23 in a glacier that they suspect came from the

00:13:23 --> 00:13:25 Russian spacecraft uh, Mars 96, which

00:13:25 --> 00:13:27 disintegrated in 1996.

00:13:28 --> 00:13:30 Anna: The ability to track debris in near real

00:13:30 --> 00:13:33 time, providing accurate locations within

00:13:33 --> 00:13:36 minutes instead of days or weeks would help

00:13:36 --> 00:13:39 authorities respond faster, protect people

00:13:39 --> 00:13:41 and identify hazardous materials. It

00:13:41 --> 00:13:44 could also provide aircraft warnings and

00:13:44 --> 00:13:45 support environmental monitoring.

00:13:46 --> 00:13:49 Avery: As Fernando points out, as launches increase

00:13:49 --> 00:13:51 and more large satellite constellations reach

00:13:51 --> 00:13:53 the end of their design lives, tools like

00:13:53 --> 00:13:56 this will become increasingly important. We

00:13:56 --> 00:13:58 need as many different ways as possible to

00:13:58 --> 00:14:00 track and characterise space debris.

00:14:01 --> 00:14:03 Anna: Avery Our next storey is going to make

00:14:03 --> 00:14:05 exoplanet hunters rethink some of their most

00:14:05 --> 00:14:08 exciting discoveries. It turns out that

00:14:08 --> 00:14:11 98% of what we thought were potential water

00:14:11 --> 00:14:14 worlds might actually be lava planets.

00:14:14 --> 00:14:16 Avery: This is a real wake up call for the

00:14:16 --> 00:14:18 scientific community. Anna New uh, research

00:14:18 --> 00:14:20 led by Rob Calder at the University of

00:14:20 --> 00:14:23 Cambridge suggests that nearly all known sub

00:14:23 --> 00:14:26 Neptune exoplanets, previously thought to be

00:14:26 --> 00:14:29 potential ocean bearing hycean worlds, are

00:14:29 --> 00:14:31 far more likely to be composed of molten

00:14:31 --> 00:14:32 rock.

00:14:32 --> 00:14:35 Anna: Sub Neptunes are the most commonly discovered

00:14:35 --> 00:14:38 type of exoplanet, larger than Earth but

00:14:38 --> 00:14:41 smaller than Neptune. Yet their exact nature

00:14:41 --> 00:14:43 has remained elusive. Because our solar

00:14:43 --> 00:14:46 system offers no direct equivalent.

00:14:46 --> 00:14:48 Understanding what these worlds are made of

00:14:48 --> 00:14:51 is crucial for the search for life and for

00:14:51 --> 00:14:53 refining our models of planetary formation.

00:14:54 --> 00:14:56 Avery: The problem stems from what scientists call

00:14:56 --> 00:14:59 degeneracy, when one set of observations

00:14:59 --> 00:15:02 can be interpreted in multiple ways. Take the

00:15:02 --> 00:15:05 case of planet K2 18b.

00:15:05 --> 00:15:07 Researchers celebrated its methane rich

00:15:07 --> 00:15:10 ammonia Poor atmosphere as evidence of a

00:15:10 --> 00:15:13 Hycean planet with thick hydrogen atmosphere

00:15:13 --> 00:15:14 overlying vast oceans.

00:15:15 --> 00:15:17 Anna: But here's the twist. Kaldar and his team

00:15:17 --> 00:15:20 point out that molten rock can also dissolve

00:15:20 --> 00:15:23 ammonia just like water can. So the

00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 absence of ammonia doesn't necessarily mean

00:15:25 --> 00:15:28 there are oceans. It could just as easily

00:15:28 --> 00:15:30 indicate a magma ocean.

00:15:30 --> 00:15:32 Avery: To test their theory, the researchers

00:15:32 --> 00:15:34 developed a new model called the

00:15:34 --> 00:15:37 Solidification shoreline. This tool connects

00:15:37 --> 00:15:39 the amount of energy a planet receives from

00:15:39 --> 00:15:41 its star with the star's effective

00:15:41 --> 00:15:43 temperature. By plotting known exoplanets

00:15:43 --> 00:15:46 against this framework, they could estimate

00:15:46 --> 00:15:47 whether a planet was likely to have

00:15:47 --> 00:15:50 maintained a magma ocean since formation.

00:15:50 --> 00:15:53 Anna: Using the Proteus model to simulate internal

00:15:53 --> 00:15:56 heat dynamics, they found that 98% of

00:15:56 --> 00:15:59 sub Neptune exoplanets fall above

00:15:59 --> 00:16:01 this shoreline. That means they receive

00:16:01 --> 00:16:03 enough stellar energy to keep their interiors

00:16:03 --> 00:16:06 hot and molten, rather than allowing them to

00:16:06 --> 00:16:07 cool into solid bodies.

00:16:08 --> 00:16:11 Avery: For astrobiologists and exoplanet hunters,

00:16:11 --> 00:16:13 the implications are significant. The

00:16:13 --> 00:16:16 Hycean world hypothesis had offered an

00:16:16 --> 00:16:19 enticing planets that might host life

00:16:19 --> 00:16:22 in vast subsurface oceans protected by thick

00:16:22 --> 00:16:24 atmospheres. This new research suggests that

00:16:24 --> 00:16:26 vision may have been premature.

00:16:27 --> 00:16:29 Anna: It's important to note that this doesn't

00:16:29 --> 00:16:32 close the door on water worlds altogether. It

00:16:32 --> 00:16:34 simply urges caution against over

00:16:34 --> 00:16:36 interpretation and reminds us that planetary

00:16:36 --> 00:16:39 evolution can take multiple paths. As

00:16:39 --> 00:16:42 Calver and his team make clear, the lack of

00:16:42 --> 00:16:44 reliable atmospheric mass data across many

00:16:44 --> 00:16:47 exoplanets limits current models.

00:16:47 --> 00:16:49 Avery: While this conclusion might seem like a

00:16:49 --> 00:16:52 setback, it actually offers a more stable

00:16:52 --> 00:16:55 foundation for future research. It's better

00:16:55 --> 00:16:57 to have a realistic understanding of what

00:16:57 --> 00:16:59 these planets are than to chase false hopes

00:16:59 --> 00:17:00 of habitability.

00:17:01 --> 00:17:03 Anna: Exactly. Science progresses through these

00:17:03 --> 00:17:06 kinds of corrections and refinements. We're

00:17:06 --> 00:17:08 building a more accurate picture of the

00:17:08 --> 00:17:11 cosmos, even if it means letting go of some

00:17:11 --> 00:17:12 earlier assumptions.

00:17:12 --> 00:17:14 Avery: And Anna for our final storey.

00:17:14 --> 00:17:17 Today we have something both beautiful and

00:17:17 --> 00:17:20 sobering. A glimpse into the future fate

00:17:20 --> 00:17:21 of our own sun.

00:17:22 --> 00:17:24 Anna: The James Webb Space Telescope has captured

00:17:24 --> 00:17:27 stunning new images of the Helix Nebula,

00:17:27 --> 00:17:30 one of the closest planetary nebulae to

00:17:30 --> 00:17:33 Earth. And what it reveals is absolutely

00:17:33 --> 00:17:33 breathtaking.

00:17:33 --> 00:17:36 Avery: Avery, also known as the eye of

00:17:36 --> 00:17:39 God, the Helix Nebula is located about

00:17:39 --> 00:17:41 650 light years away in the

00:17:41 --> 00:17:44 constellation Aquarius. It's the result of a

00:17:44 --> 00:17:47 sun like star that exhausted its nuclear fuel

00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 and shed its outer layers into space, leaving

00:17:50 --> 00:17:53 behind a dense core called a white dwarf.

00:17:53 --> 00:17:56 Anna: Webb's near infrared camera captured

00:17:56 --> 00:17:59 pillars of gas that look like thousands of

00:17:59 --> 00:18:01 comets with extended tails tracing the

00:18:01 --> 00:18:04 circumference of an expanding shell of gas.

00:18:04 --> 00:18:07 These structures form when BLISTERING winds

00:18:07 --> 00:18:09 of hot moving gas from the dying star

00:18:10 --> 00:18:13 crash into slower moving colder shells

00:18:13 --> 00:18:15 of dust and gas that were shed earlier in the

00:18:15 --> 00:18:16 star's life.

00:18:17 --> 00:18:19 Avery: What makes Webb's view so special is the

00:18:19 --> 00:18:22 level of detail it reveals. The image shows

00:18:22 --> 00:18:24 the stark transition between different

00:18:24 --> 00:18:27 temperature hot ionised gas near

00:18:27 --> 00:18:30 the centre where the white dwarf sits, cooler

00:18:30 --> 00:18:32 molecular hydrogen farther out and

00:18:32 --> 00:18:34 protective pockets where more complex

00:18:34 --> 00:18:37 molecules can begin to form within dust

00:18:37 --> 00:18:37 clouds.

00:18:38 --> 00:18:40 Anna: The colour in the image represents

00:18:40 --> 00:18:42 temperature and chemistry. Blue marks the

00:18:42 --> 00:18:44 hottest gas being blasted by the white

00:18:44 --> 00:18:47 dwarf's radiation. Yellow regions show

00:18:47 --> 00:18:50 gas that's cooled as it moves away from the

00:18:50 --> 00:18:52 white dwarf. And the coolest material at the

00:18:52 --> 00:18:54 edge of the nebula appears red.

00:18:54 --> 00:18:57 Avery: This isn't just a pretty picture. It's

00:18:57 --> 00:18:59 showing us stellar recycling in action.

00:18:59 --> 00:19:02 The gas and dust being expelled don't

00:19:02 --> 00:19:04 disappear. They're incorporated into the

00:19:04 --> 00:19:07 interstellar medium, enriching clouds with

00:19:07 --> 00:19:09 heavy elements forged in the stellar

00:19:09 --> 00:19:12 interior. This is the raw material from

00:19:12 --> 00:19:14 which new stars and planets will eventually

00:19:14 --> 00:19:14 form.

00:19:15 --> 00:19:18 Anna: According to NASA, this image is essentially

00:19:18 --> 00:19:20 a window into our own Future. In about

00:19:20 --> 00:19:23 5 billion years, our sun will enter

00:19:23 --> 00:19:26 this same phase, creating a similar nebula

00:19:26 --> 00:19:28 as it fades into a white dwarf.

00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 Avery: The Helix Nebula has been imaged many times

00:19:31 --> 00:19:33 over the nearly two centuries since it was

00:19:33 --> 00:19:36 discovered by both ground based and space

00:19:36 --> 00:19:38 based observatories. But Webb's near

00:19:38 --> 00:19:41 infrared view brings unprecedented detail,

00:19:42 --> 00:19:44 revealing structures that were invisible to

00:19:44 --> 00:19:45 previous telescopes.

00:19:46 --> 00:19:48 Anna: Scientists can use these detailed

00:19:48 --> 00:19:51 observations to refine their understanding of

00:19:51 --> 00:19:54 stellar evolution, how stars end their lives

00:19:54 --> 00:19:56 and how they distribute the elements they've

00:19:56 --> 00:19:59 created back into the galaxy. Every

00:19:59 --> 00:20:02 shell of gas represents a different episode

00:20:02 --> 00:20:04 of mass loss, creating a timeline of the

00:20:04 --> 00:20:05 star's final stages.

00:20:06 --> 00:20:08 Avery: It's a powerful reminder that even in death,

00:20:09 --> 00:20:11 stars continue to shape the universe. The

00:20:11 --> 00:20:14 atoms that will one day form new worlds,

00:20:14 --> 00:20:17 perhaps even new life, are being forged and

00:20:17 --> 00:20:20 distributed in nebulae like this right now.

00:20:20 --> 00:20:23 Anna: It's both humbling and inspiring to see

00:20:23 --> 00:20:25 our cosmic future laid out so clearly.

00:20:26 --> 00:20:28 The Helix Nebula shows us that endings in

00:20:28 --> 00:20:31 space can be as magnificent as beginnings.

00:20:32 --> 00:20:34 Avery: And that wraps up today's journey through the

00:20:34 --> 00:20:37 cosmos. From terraforming dreams to

00:20:37 --> 00:20:39 atmospheric water harvesting on Mars, from

00:20:40 --> 00:20:42 from X ray catalogues mapping millions of

00:20:42 --> 00:20:45 cosmic sources to earthquake sensors tracking

00:20:45 --> 00:20:48 falling satellites, we've covered incredible

00:20:48 --> 00:20:48 ground today.

00:20:49 --> 00:20:51 Anna: We've also learned to be more cautious about

00:20:51 --> 00:20:54 those exciting water world discoveries and

00:20:54 --> 00:20:57 witnessed the beautiful death of a sun like

00:20:57 --> 00:20:59 star through Webb's remarkable eyes.

00:20:59 --> 00:21:02 It's been quite a day in space in astronomy

00:21:02 --> 00:21:02 news.

00:21:02 --> 00:21:04 Avery: Thanks for joining us on Astronomy Daily.

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00:21:21 --> 00:21:24 Avery: Until next time, keep looking up clear

00:21:24 --> 00:21:24 skies everyone.

00:21:34 --> 00:21:34 Mhm.

00:21:37 --> 00:21:48 Sam.