Turbulent Times for SpaceX, a Monstrous Comet in the Oort Cloud, and Europe's Space Revival
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Turbulent Times for SpaceX, a Monstrous Comet in the Oort Cloud, and Europe's Space Revival

Highlights:
- SpaceX Starship Explosion: In this episode, we delve into the latest developments from SpaceX as their Starship spacecraft experienced an explosion during a static fire test at the Starbase site. Initial analyses suggest a failure of a composite overwrapped pressure vessel, but thankfully, no injuries were reported. We discuss the implications of this incident on the timeline for future flight tests and the challenges faced by the upper stage of the Starship programme.
- Monstrous Oort Cloud Comet: Astronomers have made remarkable observations of the colossal comet C/2014 UN271 Bernardinelli-Bernstein, one of the largest Oort Cloud comets ever discovered, measuring 140 kilometres across. We explore its surprising activity, including jets of carbon monoxide gas, and its long journey towards the Sun, with a perihelion expected in January 2031.
- Europe's Space Ambitions: French President Emmanuel Macron has called for Europe to reclaim its status as a global space power, particularly in the competitive low Earth orbit satellite market. We discuss his vision for increased investment and collaboration with international partners to build a robust European satellite infrastructure and the significance of this push for independence in space capabilities.
- ESA's 50th Anniversary: The European Space Agency celebrates its half-century milestone with a new publication highlighting key achievements over the years. From landing on a comet to developing advanced satellite navigation systems, we reflect on the agency's pivotal role in advancing Europe's capabilities in space and its importance for maintaining independence in the field. To download the publication: https://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/corporate/ESA_50_booklet.pdf
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Chapters:
00:00 - Welcome to Astronomy Daily
01:10 - SpaceX Starship explosion
10:00 - Monstrous Oort Cloud comet
20:00 - Europe's space ambitions
30:00 - ESA's 50th anniversary
✍️ Episode References
SpaceX Starship Update
[SpaceX](https://www.spacex.com/)
Oort Cloud Comet Discovery
[NASA](https://www.nasa.gov/)
European Space Initiatives
[European Space Agency](https://www.esa.int/)
ESA 50yrs Publication Download (PDF): https://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/corporate/ESA_50_booklet.pdfhttps://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/corporate/ESA_50_booklet.pdf
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 Anna: Hey there space enthusiasts and welcome to

00:00:02 --> 00:00:05 Astronomy Daily. I'm your host, Anna, and

00:00:05 --> 00:00:07 I'm so glad you could join us today for

00:00:07 --> 00:00:10 another journey through the cosmos. We've got

00:00:10 --> 00:00:12 some really captivating stories lined up for

00:00:12 --> 00:00:14 you this episode. We're going to dive into

00:00:14 --> 00:00:17 some big news from SpaceX, talking about

00:00:17 --> 00:00:19 their latest Starship developments which have

00:00:19 --> 00:00:22 been quite, shall we say, explosive recently.

00:00:23 --> 00:00:25 And then we'll shift gears to something truly

00:00:25 --> 00:00:28 immense, a colossal Oort cloud comet

00:00:28 --> 00:00:29 that's making its way through our solar

00:00:29 --> 00:00:32 system. And we'll also touch on Europe's push

00:00:32 --> 00:00:35 to reclaim its status as a space power. So

00:00:35 --> 00:00:36 stay tuned for all that and more.

00:00:38 --> 00:00:40 Alright, let's talk about SpaceX, shall we?

00:00:40 --> 00:00:42 Because they've been in the news again, and

00:00:42 --> 00:00:44 not for the reason they usually like to be

00:00:45 --> 00:00:47 their newest Starship spacecraft. This

00:00:47 --> 00:00:50 massive 171 foot tall vehicle

00:00:50 --> 00:00:53 experienced an explosion on a test stand

00:00:53 --> 00:00:55 at their Starbase site late last Wednesday

00:00:55 --> 00:00:58 night. This happened as they were getting

00:00:58 --> 00:01:00 ready to ignite its six Raptor engines for

00:01:00 --> 00:01:03 what's called a static fire trial, which is a

00:01:03 --> 00:01:06 pretty common pre launch test. Now, A day

00:01:06 --> 00:01:08 later, SpaceX narrowed down the likely cause.

00:01:09 --> 00:01:11 Initial analysis, they say, points to the

00:01:11 --> 00:01:13 potential failure of a pressurised tank,

00:01:13 --> 00:01:16 specifically what they call a copv, or

00:01:16 --> 00:01:18 composite overwrapped pressure vessel. This

00:01:18 --> 00:01:21 tank, which holds gaseous nitrogen and is

00:01:21 --> 00:01:24 located in Starship's nosecone area. But

00:01:24 --> 00:01:26 they're still doing a full data review. Good

00:01:26 --> 00:01:28 news though, there were no reported injuries

00:01:28 --> 00:01:31 from this explosion. All SpaceX personnel at

00:01:31 --> 00:01:34 Starbase are safe and folks living around the

00:01:34 --> 00:01:36 site near Brownsville shouldn't worry about

00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 contamination. SpaceX has done

00:01:39 --> 00:01:41 independent tests on materials inside

00:01:41 --> 00:01:43 Starship and they've confirmed no chemical,

00:01:43 --> 00:01:46 biological or toxicological risks.

00:01:47 --> 00:01:48 Plus they're coordinating with local, state

00:01:48 --> 00:01:51 and federal agencies on environmental and

00:01:51 --> 00:01:53 safety impacts. Now, this incident

00:01:53 --> 00:01:55 did cause some damage around the test stand

00:01:55 --> 00:01:58 at their Massey site. Not the orbital launch

00:01:58 --> 00:02:01 mount mind you, but still it ignited several

00:02:01 --> 00:02:02 fires there, which are being assessed once

00:02:02 --> 00:02:05 it's safe to approach. Obviously this

00:02:05 --> 00:02:07 explosion is going to push back the timeline

00:02:07 --> 00:02:10 for Starship's 10th flight test, which SpaceX

00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 had hoped to launch by the end of this month.

00:02:13 --> 00:02:15 It's not clear yet by how much, but it

00:02:15 --> 00:02:17 definitely shifts things to the right, as

00:02:17 --> 00:02:20 they say. This is also the latest in a

00:02:20 --> 00:02:22 series of setbacks for the starship upper

00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 stages. SpaceX actually lost the

00:02:25 --> 00:02:27 vehicle on its last three flight tests, which

00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 happened in January, March and May of this,

00:02:30 --> 00:02:33 uh, year. The upper stage, or ship, as

00:02:33 --> 00:02:35 they call it, has had a bit of A tough run.

00:02:36 --> 00:02:38 Interestingly, the first stage, known as

00:02:38 --> 00:02:41 Super Heavy, has had a much better track

00:02:41 --> 00:02:43 record lately. For example, on flights 7

00:02:43 --> 00:02:46 and 8, this huge booster successfully

00:02:46 --> 00:02:49 returned to Starbase and was even caught by

00:02:49 --> 00:02:51 the launch tower's chopstick arms, which is a

00:02:51 --> 00:02:54 jaw dropping feat to watch. On Flight 8,

00:02:54 --> 00:02:56 which launched on March 6, the Super Heavy

00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 booster was successfully caught. But the

00:02:58 --> 00:03:00 ship, the upper stage, it started to tumble

00:03:00 --> 00:03:03 after several of its six Raptor engines

00:03:03 --> 00:03:04 failed toward the end of its ascent burn.

00:03:05 --> 00:03:07 SpaceX lost contact about nine minutes into

00:03:07 --> 00:03:09 the flight, and it presumably detonated high

00:03:09 --> 00:03:12 in the sky. This kind of mirrored Flight

00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 seven, where they also lost ship at about the

00:03:14 --> 00:03:17 same point. SpaceX traced that Flight 7

00:03:17 --> 00:03:20 anomaly to what they described as a harmonic

00:03:20 --> 00:03:21 response several times stronger in flight

00:03:21 --> 00:03:24 than had been seen during testing, which

00:03:24 --> 00:03:26 caused increased stress and propellant leaks,

00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 leading to fires. They've since taken steps

00:03:29 --> 00:03:31 to minimise recurrence, like conducting a

00:03:31 --> 00:03:34 longer static fire test with Flight 8's ship

00:03:34 --> 00:03:36 and making hardware changes to fuel lines and

00:03:36 --> 00:03:38 propellant temperatures. They've even added

00:03:38 --> 00:03:41 new vents and a purge system using gaseous

00:03:41 --> 00:03:43 nitrogen to make the area more robust to

00:03:43 --> 00:03:46 propellant leakage. In the long run,

00:03:46 --> 00:03:49 SpaceX plans to bring both Super Heavy and

00:03:49 --> 00:03:51 Ship back to Starbase for these launch tower

00:03:51 --> 00:03:54 catches. Their vision is for this fully

00:03:54 --> 00:03:56 reusable rocket to fly multiple times per

00:03:56 --> 00:03:59 day, making Mars settlement, which is Elon

00:03:59 --> 00:04:02 Musk's long held goal, economically

00:04:02 --> 00:04:05 feasible. They've requested approval for 25

00:04:05 --> 00:04:07 Starship launches from Starbase in

00:04:07 --> 00:04:10 2025 alone. So despite these recent

00:04:10 --> 00:04:12 challenges, they're still aiming high.

00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 Okay, let's pivot now from rockets and

00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 explosions to something a little more serene,

00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 but still incredibly exciting. A truly

00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 monstrous comet spotted way out in the outer

00:04:24 --> 00:04:26 solar system. Astronomers have

00:04:26 --> 00:04:29 recently completed a long range observation

00:04:29 --> 00:04:31 of a comet named C 2014 UN

00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 271 Bernardinelli Bernstein. And this

00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 thing is just massive. It's actually one of

00:04:37 --> 00:04:39 the largest Oort Cloud comets ever observed,

00:04:40 --> 00:04:42 measuring a whopping 140 kilometres across.

00:04:43 --> 00:04:45 For some context, Halley's Comet, which we

00:04:45 --> 00:04:48 all know is only about 15 kilometres across.

00:04:48 --> 00:04:50 So imagine something nearly 10 times that

00:04:50 --> 00:04:52 size. This comet, UN

00:04:52 --> 00:04:55 271, is currently pretty far from the sun,

00:04:56 --> 00:04:58 about 16 and a half astronomical units away,

00:04:58 --> 00:05:00 which makes it super tough to observe.

00:05:01 --> 00:05:03 But astronomers have been using the powerful

00:05:03 --> 00:05:06 Atacama Large Millimetre Submillimeter Array,

00:05:06 --> 00:05:09 or alma, in Chile to keep an eye on it. And

00:05:09 --> 00:05:11 what they're seeing is quite surprising for

00:05:11 --> 00:05:13 something so far out there. They're watching

00:05:13 --> 00:05:15 jets of carbon monoxide gas, erupting from

00:05:15 --> 00:05:18 its nucleus. That's a really unexpected level

00:05:18 --> 00:05:20 of activity for a comet that's so distant and

00:05:20 --> 00:05:23 cold. The comet was actually

00:05:23 --> 00:05:25 Discovered back in 2014 by astronomers Gary

00:05:25 --> 00:05:28 Bernstein and Pedro Bernardinelli, who

00:05:28 --> 00:05:30 spotted it as a faint fuzzy smudge in

00:05:30 --> 00:05:33 archival images from the Dark Energy Survey.

00:05:33 --> 00:05:35 Its slow movement immediately told them it

00:05:35 --> 00:05:38 was far out in the solar system and therefore

00:05:38 --> 00:05:41 quite large. This thing is on an incredibly

00:05:41 --> 00:05:44 long journey. Its perihelion, which is its

00:05:44 --> 00:05:46 closest approach to the sun, won't be until

00:05:46 --> 00:05:49 January 2031. And even then

00:05:49 --> 00:05:51 it'll still be 10.9 AU from the sun

00:05:52 --> 00:05:54 just outside Saturn's orbit. It's on a

00:05:54 --> 00:05:57 2.8 million year orbit inbound, and then a

00:05:57 --> 00:05:59 4.6 million year orbit outbound heading

00:05:59 --> 00:06:01 almost a light year away, about a fifth of

00:06:01 --> 00:06:03 the way to Proxima Centauri, our nearest

00:06:03 --> 00:06:06 star. The difference in its inbound and

00:06:06 --> 00:06:08 outbound orbit, by the way, is is likely due

00:06:08 --> 00:06:10 to interactions with planets when it's closer

00:06:10 --> 00:06:13 to the Sun. Nathan Roth from NASA's

00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 Goddard Space Flight Centre noted that these

00:06:15 --> 00:06:17 measurements give us a look at how this

00:06:17 --> 00:06:20 enormous icy world works and that they're

00:06:20 --> 00:06:23 seeing explosive outgassing patterns that

00:06:23 --> 00:06:25 raise new questions about how this comet will

00:06:25 --> 00:06:28 evolve. Now, you might be wondering, is this

00:06:28 --> 00:06:30 giant comet going to hit Earth? And

00:06:30 --> 00:06:33 thankfully no. While a comet of this size is,

00:06:33 --> 00:06:35 it's 12 times the size of the Chicxulub

00:06:35 --> 00:06:38 impactor that wiped out the dinosaurs. Would

00:06:38 --> 00:06:41 definitely be an extinction level event if it

00:06:41 --> 00:06:43 came our way. UN271 isn't coming

00:06:43 --> 00:06:46 anywhere near the inner solar system, so

00:06:46 --> 00:06:48 breathe easy. It's a bit of a shame it won't

00:06:48 --> 00:06:51 visit the inner solar system closer, because

00:06:51 --> 00:06:53 it would put on an amazing show even bigger

00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 than Comet Hale Bopp. But its appearance

00:06:56 --> 00:06:58 really shows us just what might be lurking

00:06:58 --> 00:07:01 out there in the remote icy realms of the

00:07:01 --> 00:07:03 outer solar system and how active these

00:07:03 --> 00:07:05 distant objects can be, which is pretty cool

00:07:06 --> 00:07:09 from the distant icy realms of comets.

00:07:09 --> 00:07:11 Let's zoom in a bit closer to Earth and

00:07:11 --> 00:07:13 actually to the geopolitical arena of space.

00:07:14 --> 00:07:16 French President Emmanuel Macron recently

00:07:16 --> 00:07:18 made some pretty strong statements

00:07:18 --> 00:07:20 emphasising that Europe really needs to re

00:07:20 --> 00:07:23 establish itself as a global space power. And

00:07:23 --> 00:07:26 he's particularly focused on the increasingly

00:07:26 --> 00:07:28 competitive low Earth orbit or or LEO

00:07:28 --> 00:07:31 satellite market. Macron was speaking at the

00:07:31 --> 00:07:34 Paris Air show and he didn't mince words.

00:07:34 --> 00:07:36 He warned that France, and by extension

00:07:36 --> 00:07:39 Europe, risked being completely squeezed out

00:07:39 --> 00:07:42 of this crucial LEO satellite constellation

00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 market. He specifically called out players

00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 like SpaceX who have as he put it

00:07:47 --> 00:07:50 disrupted the market and also Amazon,

00:07:50 --> 00:07:53 who's getting involved, plus China who's not

00:07:53 --> 00:07:55 far behind. He said we all need to be very

00:07:55 --> 00:07:58 clear headed about this situation. The

00:07:58 --> 00:08:00 urgency here stems from growing geopolitical

00:08:00 --> 00:08:03 tensions which are pushing countries to focus

00:08:03 --> 00:08:05 on the independence of their satellite

00:08:05 --> 00:08:08 infrastructure. Macron believes that relying

00:08:08 --> 00:08:10 on non European constellations in low orbit

00:08:10 --> 00:08:12 would be, and I quote, madness.

00:08:13 --> 00:08:15 He really wants to see Europe, with France at

00:08:15 --> 00:08:17 its core, become a space power once again. So

00:08:17 --> 00:08:19 what's the plan? Well, he's calling for a

00:08:19 --> 00:08:21 significant increase in collective

00:08:21 --> 00:08:23 investment, both public and private. He also

00:08:23 --> 00:08:26 suggested that non European partners like

00:08:26 --> 00:08:29 those in the Gulf, India, Canada and Brazil

00:08:29 --> 00:08:31 should team up with France. It's all about

00:08:31 --> 00:08:33 building strong alliances and shared

00:08:33 --> 00:08:36 solutions. As part of this push,

00:08:36 --> 00:08:38 France has actually more than doubled its

00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 stake in the satellite operator Utilsat,

00:08:41 --> 00:08:43 making it the largest shareholder in a deal

00:08:43 --> 00:08:46 worth about 1.35 billion euros.

00:08:46 --> 00:08:49 Utilsat, which by the way merged

00:08:49 --> 00:08:52 with the British firm OneWeb in 2023,

00:08:52 --> 00:08:55 is now the world's second largest operator of

00:08:55 --> 00:08:57 low earth orbit satellites, right behind

00:08:57 --> 00:08:59 Starlink. So they're actively positioning

00:08:59 --> 00:09:01 Eutelsat as a European alternative,

00:09:02 --> 00:09:03 especially for companies and nations looking

00:09:03 --> 00:09:05 for sovereign solutions and not wanting to

00:09:05 --> 00:09:07 rely solely on Elon Musk's ventures.

00:09:08 --> 00:09:11 Looking ahead, France also plans to organise

00:09:11 --> 00:09:13 a major space Summit in early 2026.

00:09:14 --> 00:09:16 The goal there is to really mobilise partners

00:09:16 --> 00:09:19 globally, both public and private, to

00:09:19 --> 00:09:21 push this vision forward. It really

00:09:21 --> 00:09:23 highlights how critical this independent

00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 space infrastructure is becoming, not just

00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 for telecommunications and navigation, but

00:09:28 --> 00:09:31 also for emergency response and even defence.

00:09:31 --> 00:09:32 It's a big deal.

00:09:33 --> 00:09:35 Speaking of global space efforts, the

00:09:35 --> 00:09:37 European Space Agency, or esa, is

00:09:37 --> 00:09:40 celebrating a pretty big milestone, their

00:09:40 --> 00:09:42 first half century. To mark this occasion,

00:09:42 --> 00:09:44 they've released a new publication called

00:09:44 --> 00:09:47 Issei 50 Hallmark Achievements

00:09:47 --> 00:09:50 Across 50 Years. And it really

00:09:50 --> 00:09:52 highlights some incredibly pivotal moments.

00:09:52 --> 00:09:54 From landing on a comet, which is just wild

00:09:54 --> 00:09:56 to think about, to fostering Europe's space

00:09:56 --> 00:09:58 industry, contributing a lab for the space

00:09:58 --> 00:10:00 shuttle, and even implementing the world's

00:10:00 --> 00:10:02 most precise satellite navigation system.

00:10:03 --> 00:10:05 It's a huge retrospective. The that really

00:10:05 --> 00:10:08 underscores ESA's crucial role in undertaking

00:10:08 --> 00:10:11 ambitious projects that frankly would

00:10:11 --> 00:10:13 just be too big for any single nation to

00:10:13 --> 00:10:15 tackle alone. As uh, ESA Director General Jos

00:10:15 --> 00:10:18 Aschbacher puts it, being an agency means

00:10:18 --> 00:10:21 taking action to deliver results too big

00:10:21 --> 00:10:23 and ambitious for any single nation. It

00:10:23 --> 00:10:25 really is all about that collective power.

00:10:25 --> 00:10:27 Kai Ua Schrogel, who was the agency

00:10:27 --> 00:10:29 coordinator for the 50th anniversary,

00:10:30 --> 00:10:32 actually mentioned that the biggest challenge

00:10:32 --> 00:10:34 wasn't deciding what to include in the

00:10:34 --> 00:10:36 publication, but actually what to leave out,

00:10:36 --> 00:10:39 because ISSEI has achieved such an enormously

00:10:39 --> 00:10:41 long list of remarkable milestones over the

00:10:41 --> 00:10:44 years. So the book isn't just about the top

00:10:44 --> 00:10:47 achievements, but truly hallmark ones,

00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 showcasing technical miracles, historic

00:10:50 --> 00:10:53 firsts, and honestly, just moments of

00:10:53 --> 00:10:55 pure inspiration that highlight the broad

00:10:55 --> 00:10:58 range of ESA's activities. It makes

00:10:58 --> 00:11:00 you think about what a Europe without its

00:11:00 --> 00:11:02 space agency would even look like. Director

00:11:02 --> 00:11:05 General Aschbacher encourages readers to

00:11:05 --> 00:11:07 imagine the wider universe would be a

00:11:07 --> 00:11:10 much dimmer, less known place. Our

00:11:10 --> 00:11:12 continent might have fewer native astronauts

00:11:12 --> 00:11:14 or space scientists, and our

00:11:14 --> 00:11:17 telecommunications, navigation, and even

00:11:17 --> 00:11:19 weather forecasting could well be dependent

00:11:19 --> 00:11:22 on foreign powers. So ESA's work

00:11:22 --> 00:11:24 is critical for maintaining Europe's

00:11:24 --> 00:11:26 independence and advancing its capabilities

00:11:26 --> 00:11:29 in space. The 50 achievements

00:11:29 --> 00:11:31 listed in this publication are actually

00:11:31 --> 00:11:33 grouped according to the five strategic goals

00:11:33 --> 00:11:36 of Issei's Strategy 2040,

00:11:36 --> 00:11:38 which is their vision for the next 15 years.

00:11:39 --> 00:11:41 So they're not just looking back, they're

00:11:41 --> 00:11:43 treating these past results as baselines to

00:11:43 --> 00:11:46 build upon for the future. The publication is

00:11:46 --> 00:11:49 available as a PDF and I'll include a link in

00:11:49 --> 00:11:51 the show Notes if you'd like to download a

00:11:51 --> 00:11:51 copy.

00:11:53 --> 00:11:55 That's all for this episode of Astronomy

00:11:55 --> 00:11:58 Daily. Wow, we covered a lot of

00:11:58 --> 00:12:00 ground today, didn't we? From the latest on

00:12:00 --> 00:12:02 SpaceX's Starship and those ongoing

00:12:02 --> 00:12:05 challenges they're facing to that truly

00:12:05 --> 00:12:07 monstrous Oort Cloud comet just doing its

00:12:07 --> 00:12:09 thing way out there, and even Europe's big

00:12:09 --> 00:12:11 push for space independence. And let's not

00:12:11 --> 00:12:14 Forget ise celebrating 50 years of incredible

00:12:14 --> 00:12:17 achievements. Thank you so much for tuning in

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