Webb’s Digital Twin: A Hidden Planet, Ancient Stars and China’s Moon Plan
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Webb’s Digital Twin: A Hidden Planet, Ancient Stars and China’s Moon Plan

Show notes
A Northwestern-led team builds a physics-based digital twin of the James Webb Space Telescope's coronagraph and recovers the giant planet 51 Eridani b in two-year-old data where standard processing could not see it. Plus VVV CL001, a dust-hidden cluster near the Milky Way's core dated at 13.4 billion years; China's most detailed account yet of its two-launch crewed Moon landing plan; and the flare alert system that tells sounding rockets exactly when to launch, as sunspot region AR4566 turns magnetically complex. The Planet in the Glare (lead) Ferrer-Chavez, Wang, Bouman, Freeman, Pueyo et al., Nature, 4 Nov 2026, DOI 10.1038/s41586-026-11213-z. FLIP (Physics-based Learning for Imaging Planets) models JWST/NIRCam coronagraph optics as a digital twin and subtracts simulated starlight. Tested on HIP 65426, 51 Eridani and TYC 5899: sensitivity improved 2–15×; 51 Eri b recovered at >5σ in F430M (CO₂ band) data where standard processing failed. Not a new planet; three-star demonstration; picometre-stability relief for the Habitable Worlds Observatory is a prospect, not yet shown. VVV CL001: the oldest cluster in the Galaxy? Olivares Carvajal, Zoccali et al., accepted to A&A, arXiv 2610.27969 (posted 20 Oct 2026). Age 13.4 ± 0.4 Gyr from Magellan/FourStar and Hubble photometry; [Fe/H] ≈ −2.2; ~7.3 kpc in the bulge. ~1 Gyr additional systematic from distance; Ton 2 dated at 13.6 Gyr — a strong candidate, not a settled record. China's crewed Moon landing plan Wang Xiang, 7th Manned Space Symposium, Beijing, 31 Oct 2026. Two Long March 10 launches; Lanyue lander and Mengzhou crew ship rendezvous in lunar orbit; crew of three, two land, rover on first landing. No new dates; target remains before 2030. Catching a flare in the act Early flare alert system, The Astrophysical Journal, 4 Nov 2026, DOI 10.3847/1538-4357/ae95fd. Enabled FOXSI-4 and Hi-C Flare to launch into an M-class flare on 17 Apr 2024 and FOXSI-5 to catch three flares on 14 May 2026. AR4566 reached beta-gamma-delta classification on 4 Nov. Quick hits Swift re-entered 7:39 a.m. EST 4 Nov (12:39 UTC) over North Sumatra; NASA's SSPICY (Starfish Space Otter) declared unrecoverable; final ISS roll-out solar array spacewalk (Kutryk, Menon); Hera begins early characterisation at Didymos per ESA's timeline.

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00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 Anna: Hello, everyone. Welcome back.

00:00:03 --> 00:00:06 A planet that was sitting in two year

00:00:06 --> 00:00:08 old telescope data all along, and

00:00:08 --> 00:00:11 nobody could see it. Not because it wasn't

00:00:11 --> 00:00:14 there, but because the telescope wobbles

00:00:14 --> 00:00:16 by a few billionths of a metre.

00:00:16 --> 00:00:18 Avery: Today, a team at Northwestern builds a

00:00:18 --> 00:00:20 digital twin of the James Webb Space

00:00:20 --> 00:00:23 Telescope's coronagraph and uses it to pull a

00:00:23 --> 00:00:26 giant planet out of the glare. Plus a star

00:00:26 --> 00:00:28 cluster near the heart of the Milky Way that

00:00:28 --> 00:00:30 may be 13.4 billion years old.

00:00:31 --> 00:00:33 China lays out its moon landing plan in more

00:00:33 --> 00:00:35 detail and a clever alert system that tells

00:00:35 --> 00:00:37 rockets exactly when to chase a solar flare.

00:00:38 --> 00:00:40 Anna: Welcome to Astronomy AstroDailyPod. I'm Anna.

00:00:41 --> 00:00:43 Avery: And I'm M. Avery, and we're coming to you

00:00:43 --> 00:00:44 from Sydney, Australia.

00:00:45 --> 00:00:46 Let's get into it.

00:00:46 --> 00:00:49 Anna: Let's start with a problem every planet

00:00:49 --> 00:00:52 hunter knows. Photographing a planet

00:00:52 --> 00:00:55 around another star is like trying to see

00:00:55 --> 00:00:57 a firefly hovering next to a floodlight.

00:00:58 --> 00:01:00 Even a young, hot giant planet can be

00:01:00 --> 00:01:03 100 times fainter than its star.

00:01:03 --> 00:01:06 For planets like Earth, it's 10 billion

00:01:06 --> 00:01:07 times.

00:01:07 --> 00:01:10 Avery: So telescopes use a coronagraph, which is a

00:01:10 --> 00:01:12 mask that blocks the star's light. But

00:01:12 --> 00:01:14 blocking the star isn't enough, is it?

00:01:14 --> 00:01:17 Anna: No. Some starlight always

00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 leaks around the mask and it forms a

00:01:20 --> 00:01:22 blotchy pattern of speckles that can look

00:01:22 --> 00:01:25 exactly like a planet. So

00:01:25 --> 00:01:27 astronomers clean up the image afterwards.

00:01:27 --> 00:01:30 For about 20 years, the Standard approach

00:01:30 --> 00:01:33 has been to photograph a second star with no

00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 planets, use that image as a reference

00:01:36 --> 00:01:37 and subtract it.

00:01:37 --> 00:01:39 Avery: And the catch is that, uh, the telescope

00:01:39 --> 00:01:41 isn't the same telescope between the two

00:01:41 --> 00:01:42 pictures

00:01:42 --> 00:01:45 Anna: exactly. Nothing is perfectly

00:01:45 --> 00:01:47 still. The lead author, PhD

00:01:47 --> 00:01:50 student Rodrigo Ferrer Chavez, points

00:01:50 --> 00:01:53 out that shifts or tilts of just a few

00:01:53 --> 00:01:55 nanometers change the pattern of light.

00:01:56 --> 00:01:58 Jason Wang, his supervisor, lists the

00:01:58 --> 00:02:01 culprits. Tiny thermal changes that make a

00:02:01 --> 00:02:03 mirror expand or contract,

00:02:04 --> 00:02:06 and the little motors in the cryocoolers that

00:02:06 --> 00:02:09 keep the instruments cold, which can make the

00:02:09 --> 00:02:12 mirrors vibrate. So the reference never

00:02:12 --> 00:02:15 quite matches, and the leftover glare can

00:02:15 --> 00:02:16 bury a faint planet.

00:02:16 --> 00:02:17 Avery: So what did they do instead?

00:02:18 --> 00:02:20 Anna: They built a digital twin.

00:02:20 --> 00:02:22 The method is called Flip

00:02:23 --> 00:02:25 Physics Based Learning for Imaging Planets.

00:02:26 --> 00:02:29 It's a virtual copy of Webb's near cam

00:02:29 --> 00:02:31 coronagraph that simulates how starlight

00:02:31 --> 00:02:34 travels through the mirrors and masks to the

00:02:34 --> 00:02:37 detector. Then they tune millions of

00:02:37 --> 00:02:40 parameters in that model. Things like tiny

00:02:40 --> 00:02:42 shifts in position and distortions in the

00:02:42 --> 00:02:45 optics until the simulated glare matches

00:02:45 --> 00:02:48 the real image. Then they

00:02:48 --> 00:02:49 subtract the simulation.

00:02:50 --> 00:02:52 Avery: That sounds like artificial intelligence.

00:02:52 --> 00:02:55 Anna: It uses the same optimization tools

00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 people use to train AI models. But Wang

00:02:58 --> 00:03:01 is careful to say they didn't use AI

00:03:01 --> 00:03:03 because they already know the physics of the

00:03:03 --> 00:03:05 telescope. They don't need a machine to guess

00:03:05 --> 00:03:08 it. The model is physics. The

00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 computer just finds the best setting.

00:03:11 --> 00:03:14 Avery: And the team is worth noticing. Alongside

00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 Ferrer, Chavez, and Wang are Kathryn Bowman

00:03:16 --> 00:03:18 from Caltech, who many listeners will know

00:03:18 --> 00:03:20 from the Event Horizon Telescope black hole

00:03:20 --> 00:03:23 images, Bill Freeman from MIT and

00:03:23 --> 00:03:25 Laurent Puejo from the Space Telescope

00:03:25 --> 00:03:28 Science Institute. It's computational imaging

00:03:28 --> 00:03:29 people working with telescope people.

00:03:29 --> 00:03:32 Anna: They tested it on existing Webb observations

00:03:32 --> 00:03:34 of three HIP

00:03:34 --> 00:03:37 65426 and 51

00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 Eridani, which both have known planets,

00:03:40 --> 00:03:42 and a third star, PYC

00:03:42 --> 00:03:45 5899, with no known companions

00:03:45 --> 00:03:45 at all.

00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 As a control across those observations,

00:03:49 --> 00:03:51 FLIP improved the sensitivity to faint

00:03:51 --> 00:03:54 planets by between 2 and 15

00:03:54 --> 00:03:56 times compared with the standard processing.

00:03:56 --> 00:03:59 Avery: And the headline is 51 Eridani B.

00:04:00 --> 00:04:02 Anna: Right. 51 Ary B is a

00:04:02 --> 00:04:05 young giant planet roughly twice the mass of

00:04:05 --> 00:04:08 Jupiter, about 100 light years away. Webb

00:04:08 --> 00:04:10 observed it a couple of years ago at a

00:04:10 --> 00:04:13 wavelength of 4.3 microns using a

00:04:13 --> 00:04:15 filter that sits right on a strong carbon

00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 dioxide absorption band. Carbon dioxide in

00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 the planet's atmosphere soaks up that light,

00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 so the planet is even fainter there. The

00:04:24 --> 00:04:26 original analysis, using the standard method,

00:04:27 --> 00:04:29 couldn't separate it from the leftover glare.

00:04:29 --> 00:04:32 Avery: Why does that particular wavelength matter so

00:04:32 --> 00:04:32 much?

00:04:33 --> 00:04:35 Anna: Because it's where the chemistry is.

00:04:35 --> 00:04:38 An earlier web study of 51 Ary B,

00:04:38 --> 00:04:41 led by William Balmer and published last

00:04:41 --> 00:04:44 year, did detect the planet at 4.1

00:04:44 --> 00:04:46 microns, but not at the longer wavelengths.

00:04:47 --> 00:04:49 That pattern pointed to two

00:04:49 --> 00:04:52 carbon chemistry that isn't in equilibrium

00:04:52 --> 00:04:55 with gas being churned up from deeper, hotter

00:04:55 --> 00:04:58 layers and an atmosphere relatively rich

00:04:58 --> 00:05:00 in heavy elements. Both are clues to

00:05:00 --> 00:05:03 how the planet formed. A giant planet that

00:05:03 --> 00:05:06 grew by first building a solid core and then

00:05:06 --> 00:05:09 sweeping up gas tends to end up enriched in

00:05:09 --> 00:05:12 heavy elements. So the dip at

00:05:12 --> 00:05:14 4.3 microns isn't a nuisance.

00:05:14 --> 00:05:17 It's the measurement you want. And it was

00:05:17 --> 00:05:20 exactly where the planet had disappeared into

00:05:20 --> 00:05:20 the glare.

00:05:21 --> 00:05:23 Avery: So a, uh, missing data point becomes a usable

00:05:23 --> 00:05:23 one.

00:05:23 --> 00:05:26 Anna: That's the idea, and it's worth saying why.

00:05:26 --> 00:05:28 The old approach struggles most at the

00:05:28 --> 00:05:31 faintest end, when the reference star's glare

00:05:31 --> 00:05:34 and the target's glare differ even slightly.

00:05:34 --> 00:05:37 The leftover pattern is brightest close to

00:05:37 --> 00:05:39 the star, which is exactly where young

00:05:39 --> 00:05:41 planets like 51 airy b orbit.

00:05:42 --> 00:05:45 It's about 0.4 arcseconds from its star

00:05:45 --> 00:05:48 model, the telescope itself and that leftover

00:05:48 --> 00:05:49 pattern shrinks.

00:05:49 --> 00:05:50 Avery: And with flip.

00:05:50 --> 00:05:53 Anna: With flip, the planet appears at better than

00:05:53 --> 00:05:56 five sigma in exactly the expected

00:05:56 --> 00:05:58 place and with the expected shape.

00:05:58 --> 00:06:01 Wang's phrase for it was science left

00:06:01 --> 00:06:04 on the table. The data were good, the

00:06:04 --> 00:06:05 tools weren't.

00:06:05 --> 00:06:07 Avery: Let's be precise about what this is and

00:06:07 --> 00:06:09 isn't, because the headlines are saying a

00:06:09 --> 00:06:11 hidden planet was discovered.

00:06:11 --> 00:06:14 Anna: Three things. First, 51

00:06:14 --> 00:06:17 Arai b isn't a new planet. It

00:06:17 --> 00:06:19 was discovered more than a decade ago. What's

00:06:19 --> 00:06:22 new is recovering it at a wavelength where it

00:06:22 --> 00:06:25 had been invisible, which matters because

00:06:25 --> 00:06:27 that's where you'd measure carbon dioxide in

00:06:27 --> 00:06:30 its atmosphere. Second, this

00:06:30 --> 00:06:33 is a demonstration on three stars. It needs

00:06:33 --> 00:06:35 to work across many more targets and

00:06:35 --> 00:06:37 instruments before we know how general it is.

00:06:37 --> 00:06:38 Avery: And third,

00:06:38 --> 00:06:41 Anna: third, the bigger promise. NASA's

00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 proposed habitable worlds Observatory aims to

00:06:44 --> 00:06:47 photograph Earth like planets around sun like

00:06:47 --> 00:06:47 stars.

00:06:48 --> 00:06:50 To do that, with today's approach, it may

00:06:50 --> 00:06:52 need to hold its optics stable to the

00:06:52 --> 00:06:55 picometer level, which is 100 to 1

00:06:55 --> 00:06:58 times steadier than Webb. The team

00:06:58 --> 00:07:01 suggests that instead of engineering perfect

00:07:01 --> 00:07:02 stability, you could correct for

00:07:02 --> 00:07:05 imperfections in software. That's a

00:07:05 --> 00:07:08 reasonable hope. It hasn't been shown at that

00:07:08 --> 00:07:08 level yet.

00:07:08 --> 00:07:10 Avery: There's a strong southern threat here.

00:07:11 --> 00:07:13 Anna: There is 51 Arie B

00:07:13 --> 00:07:16 was discovered with the Gemini Planet Imager

00:07:16 --> 00:07:18 on the Gemini South Telescope at Cerro

00:07:18 --> 00:07:21 Pachon, chile, announced in August

00:07:21 --> 00:07:24 2015. And it was notable then for showing

00:07:24 --> 00:07:27 methane like a young Jupiter. And

00:07:27 --> 00:07:29 hip 65426B was the

00:07:29 --> 00:07:32 first planet ever discovered by the Sphere

00:07:32 --> 00:07:34 instrument on Esso's Very Large Telescope at

00:07:34 --> 00:07:37 paranal back in 2017. Five

00:07:37 --> 00:07:40 years later, it became the first exoplanet

00:07:40 --> 00:07:42 Webb photographed, and Jason Wang was on that

00:07:42 --> 00:07:42 team too.

00:07:43 --> 00:07:43 Avery: And

00:07:43 --> 00:07:46 hip65426

00:07:46 --> 00:07:48 is a genuinely southern star.

00:07:48 --> 00:07:50 Anna: It is. It's in Centaurus at a

00:07:50 --> 00:07:53 declination of -51 degrees.

00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 From Sydney, it climbs to about 72

00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 degrees above the horizon. From Los

00:07:59 --> 00:08:01 Angeles, it barely clears 4 degrees.

00:08:02 --> 00:08:05 And from New York and London, it never rises

00:08:05 --> 00:08:08 at all. 51 Eridani, on the other

00:08:08 --> 00:08:10 hand, sits almost on the celestial equator.

00:08:11 --> 00:08:13 So everyone can see that one, and we'll come

00:08:13 --> 00:08:15 back to it in the sky watch.

00:08:15 --> 00:08:17 Avery: So what's the takeaway?

00:08:17 --> 00:08:20 Anna: Ferrer Chavez put it nicely. We don't

00:08:20 --> 00:08:22 know of any planets around other stars that

00:08:22 --> 00:08:25 look like the ones in our own solar system.

00:08:25 --> 00:08:27 And it isn't necessarily because they don't

00:08:27 --> 00:08:30 exist. It's because we can't see them yet.

00:08:31 --> 00:08:34 Every time the techniques improve, new kinds

00:08:34 --> 00:08:36 of planets turn up. This one

00:08:36 --> 00:08:38 improves the technique without touching the

00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 hardware, and it can be applied to data

00:08:40 --> 00:08:42 that's already sitting in the archive.

00:08:43 --> 00:08:45 Avery: Which means there may be more planets already

00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 hiding in Webb's archive.

00:08:47 --> 00:08:50 Anna: That's the next thing to watch whether Flip

00:08:50 --> 00:08:52 turns up something genuinely new in old data.

00:08:53 --> 00:08:55 The paper is in Nature this week titled

00:08:56 --> 00:08:58 Imaging Exoplanets below the Telescope

00:08:58 --> 00:08:59 Stability Limit.

00:08:59 --> 00:09:02 Avery: Our next story looks back almost as far as

00:09:02 --> 00:09:05 you can. A team led by Julio Olivares

00:09:05 --> 00:09:08 Carvajal, working with Manuela Socali and

00:09:08 --> 00:09:10 colleagues in Chile, has dated a globular

00:09:10 --> 00:09:12 cluster called VVV CL

00:09:13 --> 00:09:16 001 at 13.4

00:09:16 --> 00:09:18 billion years, give or take 400 million.

00:09:19 --> 00:09:22 Anna: The universe is about 13.8

00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 billion years old, so that would put the

00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 star's birth only a few hundred million

00:09:28 --> 00:09:30 years after the Big Bang.

00:09:30 --> 00:09:33 Avery: That's right. The paper was posted last month

00:09:33 --> 00:09:35 and has been accepted by Astronomy and

00:09:35 --> 00:09:38 Astrophysics. It calls the cluster a

00:09:38 --> 00:09:40 strong candidate for the most ancient star

00:09:40 --> 00:09:43 cluster in the galaxy. And it's a hard

00:09:43 --> 00:09:45 object to study. VVV

00:09:45 --> 00:09:48 CL001 sits towards the

00:09:48 --> 00:09:50 galactic bulge in Sagittarius, about

00:09:50 --> 00:09:53 24 light years away, behind thick

00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 dust and the crowded foreground of unrelated

00:09:56 --> 00:09:56 stars.

00:09:57 --> 00:09:59 Anna: So how do you date it?

00:09:59 --> 00:10:02 Avery: Globular cluster stars are all born at about

00:10:02 --> 00:10:05 the same time, and heavier stars burn through

00:10:05 --> 00:10:08 their core hydrogen first, the point where

00:10:08 --> 00:10:10 stars are just leaving the main sequence. The

00:10:10 --> 00:10:13 turnoff works like a clock. The team

00:10:13 --> 00:10:16 used near infrared images from the four star

00:10:16 --> 00:10:19 camera on the 6.5 metre Magellan Bod

00:10:19 --> 00:10:22 Telescope at Las Campanas, spanning about 13

00:10:22 --> 00:10:24 years, to pick out true cluster members by

00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 their M motion and pin down the distance.

00:10:27 --> 00:10:29 Then they used Hubble images to reach the

00:10:29 --> 00:10:32 turnoff. Two independent sets of stellar

00:10:32 --> 00:10:34 models gave 13.47 and

00:10:34 --> 00:10:36 13.39 billion years.

00:10:37 --> 00:10:38 Anna: And the chemistry fits.

00:10:39 --> 00:10:42 Avery: It does. Its stars carry less than 1% of the

00:10:42 --> 00:10:44 sun's proportion of iron, which makes it the

00:10:44 --> 00:10:46 most metal poor globular cluster known in the

00:10:46 --> 00:10:49 bulge. Earlier studies put it at around 12

00:10:49 --> 00:10:50 billion years, but they couldn't see deep

00:10:50 --> 00:10:52 enough to read the turnoff directly.

00:10:53 --> 00:10:54 Anna: What are the caveats?

00:10:55 --> 00:10:58 Avery: The big one is distance. The

00:10:58 --> 00:11:01 team adds a systematic uncertainty of about

00:11:01 --> 00:11:03 a billion years from the distance alone.

00:11:04 --> 00:11:06 Using a slightly smaller distance from an

00:11:06 --> 00:11:08 earlier study pushes the age to

00:11:08 --> 00:11:10 13.7 billion years, which is

00:11:10 --> 00:11:12 uncomfortably close to the age of the

00:11:12 --> 00:11:15 universe itself. That tells you the

00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 distance is the weakest link.

00:11:17 --> 00:11:20 And it isn't the only contender. Another team

00:11:20 --> 00:11:23 this year dated the bulge cluster Ton2

00:11:23 --> 00:11:25 at 13.6 billion, and the error

00:11:25 --> 00:11:28 bars overlap. So It's a strong candidate,

00:11:28 --> 00:11:30 not a crowned winner,

00:11:30 --> 00:11:32 Anna: and the southern spine is about as strong as

00:11:32 --> 00:11:33 it gets.

00:11:33 --> 00:11:36 Avery: It was discovered in 2011 by the

00:11:36 --> 00:11:39 VVV survey on ESO's VISTA

00:11:39 --> 00:11:40 telescope at Paranal.

00:11:41 --> 00:11:44 Its distance comes from Magellan and the

00:11:44 --> 00:11:47 team has deep roots in Chile. From

00:11:47 --> 00:11:49 Sydney it climbs to 80 degrees, almost

00:11:49 --> 00:11:52 straight overhead in the winter months. From

00:11:52 --> 00:11:55 New York it peaks at 25 degrees,

00:11:55 --> 00:11:57 and from London just 14.

00:11:58 --> 00:12:00 Anna: Next China has given its most detailed public

00:12:00 --> 00:12:02 account yet of how it plans to land

00:12:02 --> 00:12:05 astronauts on the moon. Wang Xiang, chief

00:12:05 --> 00:12:07 designer of China's Lunar Exploration

00:12:07 --> 00:12:10 Programme, presented it at the 7th manned

00:12:10 --> 00:12:13 space symposium in Beijing on 31 October.

00:12:13 --> 00:12:14 Avery: What's the architecture?

00:12:14 --> 00:12:17 Anna: Two launches and a meeting in lunar orbit. A

00:12:17 --> 00:12:20 long March 10 rocket sends the Lanyue lander

00:12:20 --> 00:12:23 first and it waits in lunar orbit. A second

00:12:23 --> 00:12:25 long March 10 sends the Mengzhou crew

00:12:25 --> 00:12:27 spacecraft to meet it. They dock, the

00:12:27 --> 00:12:30 astronauts transfer and Lanyue takes them

00:12:30 --> 00:12:32 down. The crew's three with two landing

00:12:33 --> 00:12:34 and a rover goes on the first landing.

00:12:35 --> 00:12:36 Avery: And the tests so far?

00:12:37 --> 00:12:39 Anna: According to Xinhua, Mengzhou has

00:12:39 --> 00:12:42 completed a zero height abort test and a

00:12:42 --> 00:12:44 maximum dynamic pressure escape test.

00:12:45 --> 00:12:48 Lanyue has completed a landing and takeoff

00:12:48 --> 00:12:50 test, and there's been a low altitude

00:12:50 --> 00:12:52 demonstration flight of the long March 10.

00:12:53 --> 00:12:55 Huang also said everything planned for the

00:12:55 --> 00:12:57 moon will first be tested in near Earth

00:12:57 --> 00:13:00 orbit, and every crewed mission will be

00:13:00 --> 00:13:02 validated by uncrewed tests. First,

00:13:02 --> 00:13:04 Avery: what wasn't said matters here too,

00:13:05 --> 00:13:08 Anna: right? There were no new dates. The target

00:13:08 --> 00:13:10 remains a crewed landing before 2030.

00:13:11 --> 00:13:13 The two launch architecture is the one first

00:13:13 --> 00:13:16 described in 2023 and the lunar

00:13:16 --> 00:13:19 version of Long March 10. Mengzhou and

00:13:19 --> 00:13:22 Lanyue have not yet made their first flights.

00:13:22 --> 00:13:25 Avery: For comparison, NASA's update on 23

00:13:25 --> 00:13:28 October put Artemis 3 in low Earth

00:13:28 --> 00:13:31 orbit in summer 2027, docking

00:13:31 --> 00:13:33 Orion with both landers there, and aimed for

00:13:33 --> 00:13:36 a crewed landing in 2028. Both

00:13:36 --> 00:13:38 plans test the hardest steps closer to home.

00:13:38 --> 00:13:41 First, we'll report the milestones as they

00:13:41 --> 00:13:42 actually happen.

00:13:43 --> 00:13:45 Now, how do you launch a rocket to catch

00:13:45 --> 00:13:47 something that's over in minutes?

00:13:47 --> 00:13:49 Anna: That's the problem behind a paper published

00:13:49 --> 00:13:52 on 4 November in the Astrophysical Journal.

00:13:52 --> 00:13:55 Sounding rockets are a fast, cheap way to

00:13:55 --> 00:13:57 study the X rays and ultraviolet light from

00:13:57 --> 00:14:00 solar flares that our atmosphere absorbs.

00:14:00 --> 00:14:03 But a sounding rocket only gets about five

00:14:03 --> 00:14:05 minutes above the atmosphere, and a flare can

00:14:05 --> 00:14:06 fade just as quickly.

00:14:07 --> 00:14:09 Avery: So if you launch late, you miss it.

00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 Anna: Exactly. Typical alerts tell you a flare

00:14:13 --> 00:14:15 has started, but not whether It'll still be

00:14:15 --> 00:14:18 going when the rocket gets there. So a team

00:14:18 --> 00:14:21 built an early alert system that locates a

00:14:21 --> 00:14:22 flare and predicts how long it will last

00:14:22 --> 00:14:25 within minutes of detection using data from

00:14:25 --> 00:14:28 NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory, NOAA's

00:14:28 --> 00:14:30 GOAS satellites and ground based

00:14:30 --> 00:14:32 observatories. And

00:14:32 --> 00:14:32 Avery: it worked.

00:14:32 --> 00:14:35 Anna: It did. In April 2024,

00:14:36 --> 00:14:38 two rockets, Foxe 4 and HI C

00:14:38 --> 00:14:41 Flare, sat on the pad at Poker Flat in

00:14:41 --> 00:14:44 Alaska for two weeks, waiting.

00:14:45 --> 00:14:47 On 17 April they launched into an M

00:14:47 --> 00:14:50 M class flare, the first time NASA

00:14:50 --> 00:14:52 sounding rockets have studied a flare in

00:14:52 --> 00:14:55 progress. Then in May this year,

00:14:55 --> 00:14:57 an improved version of the system launched

00:14:57 --> 00:15:00 Foxy 5, which caught three small flares.

00:15:00 --> 00:15:02 Avery: And the timing is good because the sun is

00:15:02 --> 00:15:03 active right now.

00:15:03 --> 00:15:06 Anna: It is a new sunspot region.

00:15:06 --> 00:15:09 AR4566 developed

00:15:09 --> 00:15:11 what's called a beta gamma delta magnetic

00:15:11 --> 00:15:13 configuration on the 4th of November.

00:15:14 --> 00:15:17 That's the most complex classification and

00:15:17 --> 00:15:19 regions like that are the ones that can

00:15:19 --> 00:15:21 produce M M class and even X class flares.

00:15:22 --> 00:15:25 NOAA's forecast at the time put the chance of

00:15:25 --> 00:15:27 an M M class flare at about 25%

00:15:28 --> 00:15:30 and an X class flare at about 10%.

00:15:31 --> 00:15:34 Avery: The team is still improving the system and

00:15:34 --> 00:15:36 the same early warning could help future

00:15:36 --> 00:15:38 rocket campaigns, solar observatories and

00:15:38 --> 00:15:41 space weather forecasting, including the

00:15:41 --> 00:15:43 Bureau of Meteorology's Space Weather Service

00:15:43 --> 00:15:44 here in Australia.

00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 Anna: Some um, quick updates. First for the record,

00:15:47 --> 00:15:49 the U.S. space Force confirmed that NASA's

00:15:49 --> 00:15:52 Swift Observatory re entered at 7:39am

00:15:52 --> 00:15:55 Eastern Time on Wednesday, which was 11:39pm

00:15:55 --> 00:15:57 Wednesday night here in Sydney over North

00:15:57 --> 00:16:00 Sumatra in Indonesia. Over almost

00:16:00 --> 00:16:03 22 years, Swift observed more than 2

00:16:03 --> 00:16:04 gamma ray bursts

00:16:04 --> 00:16:06 Avery: and it's been a hard week for servicing in

00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 orbit. NASA says its

00:16:08 --> 00:16:11 sspicy demonstration Starfish

00:16:11 --> 00:16:13 Space's Otter spacecraft launched on the 1st

00:16:13 --> 00:16:15 of October is not recoverable. A fault

00:16:15 --> 00:16:17 protection problem is keeping its radio

00:16:17 --> 00:16:18 switched off.

00:16:18 --> 00:16:21 Anna: On the space station Joshua

00:16:21 --> 00:16:23 Kutryk and Anil uh Menon completed the

00:16:23 --> 00:16:26 spacewalk to install the eighth and final

00:16:26 --> 00:16:29 rollout solar array, finishing an

00:16:29 --> 00:16:32 upgrade that began in 2021 and

00:16:32 --> 00:16:34 raises station power from about

00:16:34 --> 00:16:36 160 to about

00:16:36 --> 00:16:38 215 kilowatts.

00:16:38 --> 00:16:41 Avery: And ESA's HERA, according to the mission's

00:16:41 --> 00:16:43 timeline, began its early characterization

00:16:43 --> 00:16:45 phase at the Didymos asteroid pair this week

00:16:45 --> 00:16:48 from about 2530 kilometres away.

00:16:48 --> 00:16:50 ESA plans to release the first detailed

00:16:50 --> 00:16:53 images of Dimorphos on the 25th of November.

00:16:54 --> 00:16:57 Okay, moving on time for the skywatch and um,

00:16:57 --> 00:16:59 it's a good week to be up before Dawn.

00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 Anna: Brilliant. Venus is sitting very close to

00:17:02 --> 00:17:05 Spica, the brightest star in Virgo, low

00:17:05 --> 00:17:07 in the east before sunrise. They're only

00:17:07 --> 00:17:09 about one and a quarter to one and a half

00:17:09 --> 00:17:12 degrees apart all week. So a finger held at

00:17:12 --> 00:17:15 arm's length covers both. A thin crescent

00:17:15 --> 00:17:17 Moon joins them. And here the north gets the

00:17:17 --> 00:17:20 better view. On Saturday morning the seventh,

00:17:20 --> 00:17:23 about half an hour before sunrise, the moon

00:17:23 --> 00:17:25 is under 2 degrees from Venus from New York

00:17:25 --> 00:17:28 and about 2 degrees from London and around 3

00:17:28 --> 00:17:29 degrees from Los Angeles

00:17:30 --> 00:17:31 Avery: and uh, from here

00:17:31 --> 00:17:34 Anna: from Sydney. The closest pairing comes a day

00:17:34 --> 00:17:36 later on Sunday morning at about four and a

00:17:36 --> 00:17:37 half degrees.

00:17:37 --> 00:17:40 But the Moon is a very thin sliver, only

00:17:40 --> 00:17:43 about 2.5% lit and around 7

00:17:43 --> 00:17:45 degrees up. So you'll need a clear eastern

00:17:45 --> 00:17:48 horizon and binoculars help. Never

00:17:48 --> 00:17:51 sweep binoculars near the sun, so finish

00:17:51 --> 00:17:52 before it rises

00:17:52 --> 00:17:55 Avery: higher up. Mars and Jupiter are drawing

00:17:55 --> 00:17:55 together.

00:17:56 --> 00:17:58 They're just under 4 degrees apart now and

00:17:58 --> 00:18:01 um, they'll close to about 1.2 degrees on the

00:18:01 --> 00:18:04 16th of November by our own calculation.

00:18:05 --> 00:18:08 From Los Angeles and New York, they're 60 to

00:18:08 --> 00:18:11 70 degrees up before dawn from Sydney,

00:18:11 --> 00:18:13 about 32 degrees, but still easy to find.

00:18:14 --> 00:18:17 Anna: The Moon is new on Monday the 9th at

00:18:17 --> 00:18:20 6.02pm Sydney time. So the

00:18:20 --> 00:18:23 evenings around this weekend are dark in

00:18:23 --> 00:18:25 the south. That means the 4 Galaxy

00:18:25 --> 00:18:28 Challenge, the Large and Small

00:18:28 --> 00:18:30 Magellanic Clouds, the Andromeda

00:18:30 --> 00:18:33 Galaxy low in the north and our own

00:18:33 --> 00:18:35 Milky Way all in one night.

00:18:36 --> 00:18:38 Avery: And you can find today's lead story yourself

00:18:38 --> 00:18:39 from anywhere

00:18:39 --> 00:18:42 Anna: you can. 51 Eridani is

00:18:42 --> 00:18:44 a 5th magnitude star in the long

00:18:44 --> 00:18:47 winding constellation of Eridanus the

00:18:47 --> 00:18:49 river, which rises in the east. During the

00:18:49 --> 00:18:52 evening it sits almost on the celestial

00:18:52 --> 00:18:55 equator. By about 11pm it's around

00:18:55 --> 00:18:58 32 degrees up from Sydney, 40 from

00:18:58 --> 00:19:01 Los Angeles, 35 from New York and

00:19:01 --> 00:19:02 27 from London.

00:19:02 --> 00:19:05 From a dark sight, it's a faint naked eye

00:19:05 --> 00:19:08 star. You won't see the planet of course, but

00:19:08 --> 00:19:10 you'll be looking at the system. Webb just re

00:19:10 --> 00:19:10 examined

00:19:11 --> 00:19:13 Avery: a reminder from our last episode. NASA's

00:19:13 --> 00:19:15 first escapade spacecraft is choosing to fire

00:19:15 --> 00:19:17 its engine over southern Australia starting

00:19:17 --> 00:19:20 at about 8:51pm AEDT on

00:19:20 --> 00:19:23 Saturday, with the second on Monday evening.

00:19:23 --> 00:19:25 They're telescope targets, not naked eye

00:19:25 --> 00:19:26 ones.

00:19:26 --> 00:19:29 Anna: The South Taurid meteors have just peaked and

00:19:29 --> 00:19:31 the North Taurids peak around the 12th.

00:19:31 --> 00:19:34 Rates are low, 5 to 10 an hour.

00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 But the Taurids are known for slow bright

00:19:37 --> 00:19:39 fireballs. And if

00:19:39 --> 00:19:42 ar4566 does fire off something

00:19:42 --> 00:19:44 big, keep an eye on the aurora forecasts

00:19:44 --> 00:19:47 from NOAA and the Bureau of Meteorology.

00:19:47 --> 00:19:49 Avery: And if you'd like to see

00:19:49 --> 00:19:51 AR4566 yourself,

00:19:51 --> 00:19:54 the only safe way is with a solar filter

00:19:54 --> 00:19:56 Certified to the ISO12312

00:19:56 --> 00:19:59 2 stand fitted properly over

00:19:59 --> 00:20:02 the front of binoculars or a telescope or by

00:20:02 --> 00:20:04 projecting the image. Never look at the sun

00:20:04 --> 00:20:06 directly or through unfiltered optics.

00:20:07 --> 00:20:10 Anna: That's the show for today, a planet pulled

00:20:10 --> 00:20:12 out of old data by a digital twin of a

00:20:12 --> 00:20:15 telescope, a star cluster that may be

00:20:15 --> 00:20:18 almost as old as the universe, China's

00:20:18 --> 00:20:21 two launch path to the moon, and a smarter

00:20:21 --> 00:20:22 way to catch a solar flare.

00:20:23 --> 00:20:25 Avery: If you've got a question about anything you

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00:20:35 --> 00:20:38 Anna: We'll be back tomorrow with more. I'm Anna.

00:20:38 --> 00:20:40 Avery: And I'm, um, Avery. Clear Skies, everyone.

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