Apollo Secrets, Cosmic Questions & Martian Mysteries: #484 | Space Nuts
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Apollo Secrets, Cosmic Questions & Martian Mysteries: #484 | Space Nuts

Space Nuts Episode 484: Unveiling Moon Mysteries, Fermi Paradox Insights, and Mars Terraforming Challenges - A Holiday Special Episode

Join Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson as they delve into the fascinating realms of lunar exploration, the enigmatic Fermi Paradox, and the challenges of terraforming Mars in this captivating episode of Space Nuts. Packed with scientific insights and thought-provoking discussions, this episode promises to ignite your curiosity about the cosmos.

Episode Highlights:

- Unsealing Apollo's Secrets: Discover the intriguing story behind the recently opened lunar sample from the Apollo 17 mission. Learn why scientists waited 50 years to examine this precious material and what it could reveal about landslides on the Moon and its geological mysteries.

- Fermi Paradox Explored: Dive into the Fermi Paradox with a listener's question about the formation of life and elements beyond iron. Explore the possibilities of why we haven't encountered extraterrestrial civilizations and the implications for our place in the universe.

- Terraforming Mars: Engage in a speculative discussion about the feasibility of reactivating Mars' core to sustain an atmosphere. Explore the challenges of creating a habitable environment on the Red Planet and the limitations posed by its size and magnetic field.

- Space News with Anna: Get the latest updates on SpaceX's upcoming Starship test flight and Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket debut. Learn about the exciting advancements in satellite deployment and the future of heavy-lift launch vehicles.

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Stay curious, keep looking up, and join us next time for more stellar insights and cosmic wonders. Until then, clear skies and happy stargazing.

00:00 - Andrew Dunkley welcomes Professor Fred Watson to Space Nuts

02:13 - Apollo astronauts brought back 2,196 samples from the moon in 1960s

09:41 - The Moon is once again drawing a lot of attention with ambitious plans

12:38 - If you want to become a patron of our podcast, you can do so online

13:59 - Question comes from Simon from Newcastle about the formation of elements and Fermi paradox

15:33 - The Fermi paradox is about where is everybody in the universe

22:16 - Without an active core Mars will not be able to sustain an atmosphere

28:26 - SpaceX is gearing up for their seventh Starship test flight on January 10

30:17 - Blue Origin preparing to launch their first New Glenn rocket on January 6th

32:38 - Space Nuts is a twice weekly podcast from Bitesz. com

✍️ Episode References

NASA

https://www.nasa.gov

Apollo 17 mission

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_17

Artemis mission

https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/

SpaceX Starship

https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/

Blue Origin New Glenn

https://www.blueorigin.com/new-glenn/

James Webb Space Telescope

https://www.jwst.nasa.gov

Enrico Fermi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi

Galileo's experiment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo%27s_Leaning_Tower_of_Pisa_experiment

Astronomy Daily

https://www.astronomydaily.io (https://www.bitesz.com



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00:10:51 --> 00:10:53 idea not a bad yeah it's going to be I

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00:10:55 --> 00:10:56 knowledge of the Moon totally

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00:10:58 --> 00:11:00 just wondering though this is a sort of

00:11:00 --> 00:11:03 one of my stupid brain questions would a

00:11:03 --> 00:11:06 landslide on the moon happen in slow

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00:11:09 --> 00:11:11 would given that you know walking

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00:11:14 --> 00:11:18 uh yeah the the the um acceleration due

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00:11:23 --> 00:11:25 they dropped a was it was it a hammer

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00:11:27 --> 00:11:29 movie they both fell at the same that's

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00:11:32 --> 00:11:36 wondered if a landslide would um yeah it

00:11:36 --> 00:11:38 would if you watch the clip of that of

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00:11:42 --> 00:11:44 they don't they they don't drop like

00:11:44 --> 00:11:46 they would on Earth yeah that's right

00:11:46 --> 00:11:48 yeah interesting very interesting it's

00:11:48 --> 00:11:50 great stuff yeah more to learn from the

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00:14:02 --> 00:14:07 first one comes from Simon hi team Simon

00:14:07 --> 00:14:09 from Newcastle thanks for the great

00:14:09 --> 00:14:13 podcast really enjoy it my question is

00:14:13 --> 00:14:17 around the formation of uh life the

00:14:17 --> 00:14:19 formation of elements and the thermy

00:14:19 --> 00:14:23 Paradox so my understanding is that in a

00:14:23 --> 00:14:25 normal star a star will only form

00:14:25 --> 00:14:30 elements up to iron and then after that

00:14:30 --> 00:14:34 uh we need other processes to form

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00:14:37 --> 00:14:40 periodic table and that I believe not

00:14:40 --> 00:14:43 sure that that might be when the goes

00:14:43 --> 00:14:47 Supernova so then fir Paradox States you

00:14:47 --> 00:14:49 know where where is everyone I was

00:14:49 --> 00:14:51 thinking maybe an answer to that could

00:14:51 --> 00:14:54 be that uh that life itself might

00:14:54 --> 00:14:58 require elements that are higher up the

00:14:58 --> 00:15:00 periodic table than a

00:15:00 --> 00:15:04 normally produced in a standard star

00:15:04 --> 00:15:07 cycle and perhaps we actually need Super

00:15:07 --> 00:15:10 neighbors and that that in itself would

00:15:10 --> 00:15:13 then lead itself down to the conclusion

00:15:14 --> 00:15:16 that perhaps we are one of the first

00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 even though Earth's only 4 billion years

00:15:19 --> 00:15:22 old universe is 13 billion years old

00:15:22 --> 00:15:24 maybe we did actually need that period

00:15:24 --> 00:15:26 of time to get to this point anyway

00:15:26 --> 00:15:27 would just like to

00:15:27 --> 00:15:30 know if that actually adds up and makes

00:15:30 --> 00:15:33 sense thanks for your time thank you

00:15:33 --> 00:15:36 Simon very astute uh and a a really

00:15:36 --> 00:15:38 interesting question uh can you

00:15:38 --> 00:15:40 elaborate a bit um just to start with on

00:15:40 --> 00:15:43 the thermy Paradox he did refer to what

00:15:43 --> 00:15:47 it yes it's it's the but enrio fy's

00:15:47 --> 00:15:49 famous postulate from I think 1960 or

00:15:49 --> 00:15:52 thereabouts where is everybody yeah

00:15:52 --> 00:15:55 because the you know um it's really

00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 applying the capernum the the cernic

00:15:58 --> 00:15:59 principle

00:15:59 --> 00:16:02 uh to ARA's living organisms and the

00:16:02 --> 00:16:03 capernum principle is that there's

00:16:03 --> 00:16:06 nothing special about where we are in

00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 space and who we are um and it's named

00:16:08 --> 00:16:10 after cernus because he took the Earth

00:16:10 --> 00:16:12 from the center of the you know the

00:16:12 --> 00:16:14 solar system which people thought it was

00:16:14 --> 00:16:17 before and said no it's just just a

00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 planet um just a rock and it's a rock

00:16:19 --> 00:16:21 Third Rock Third Rock From the Sun yeah

00:16:21 --> 00:16:24 that's right um in fact didn't we talk

00:16:24 --> 00:16:26 some time ago about how our part of the

00:16:26 --> 00:16:29 universe is actually really boring

00:16:29 --> 00:16:32 well that could be yeah that could be

00:16:32 --> 00:16:33 part of the you know the reason why

00:16:33 --> 00:16:35 we're here because boring is good when

00:16:35 --> 00:16:38 you're trying to evolve living organisms

00:16:38 --> 00:16:41 um but yeah so F's argument was if you

00:16:41 --> 00:16:43 know if there's nothing special about us

00:16:43 --> 00:16:46 uh and the universe is 13.8 billion

00:16:46 --> 00:16:48 years old well they didn't know that

00:16:48 --> 00:16:51 back then but that's the sort of still

00:16:51 --> 00:16:55 knew it was pretty old um why haven't

00:16:55 --> 00:16:58 species formed earlier than ours uh and

00:16:58 --> 00:17:00 why haven't they call the whole galaxy

00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 basically because even you know even if

00:17:02 --> 00:17:05 it takes uh 60 years to get from one

00:17:05 --> 00:17:06 star to another as it would in our case

00:17:06 --> 00:17:10 to get from here to Proxima centu uh

00:17:10 --> 00:17:12 over a long enough time span you could

00:17:12 --> 00:17:14 do that and you know even if it even if

00:17:14 --> 00:17:17 it was colonized by robots so-called Fon

00:17:17 --> 00:17:19 Nyon machines that could

00:17:19 --> 00:17:23 self-replicate uh we should have

00:17:23 --> 00:17:24 evidence that there is intelligent life

00:17:25 --> 00:17:26 elsewhere that's that's the Fairly

00:17:26 --> 00:17:29 Paradox and we haven't and we still have

00:17:29 --> 00:17:32 um you know 62 years later we still

00:17:32 --> 00:17:34 haven't we're still looking for it on

00:17:34 --> 00:17:39 Earth yes that's right now um Simon's

00:17:39 --> 00:17:43 argument's a good one but uh the the

00:17:43 --> 00:17:48 issue though is that supern noi uh which

00:17:48 --> 00:17:50 he's absolutely right they're this

00:17:50 --> 00:17:52 source of many of the heavier elements

00:17:52 --> 00:17:54 than iron um that and things like

00:17:54 --> 00:17:56 neutron star merges and things of that

00:17:56 --> 00:17:59 sort which uh which creates some of the

00:17:59 --> 00:18:01 heaviest elements gold for example comes

00:18:01 --> 00:18:05 from them um they they they started

00:18:05 --> 00:18:07 happening with probably within the first

00:18:07 --> 00:18:09 100 million years of the universe's

00:18:09 --> 00:18:12 existence so for almost the whole age of

00:18:12 --> 00:18:15 the universe the you know what you might

00:18:15 --> 00:18:17 call the interstellar medium the space

00:18:17 --> 00:18:20 between Stars has been enriched with

00:18:20 --> 00:18:23 these heavier elements okay um and in

00:18:23 --> 00:18:26 fact that's how we we age we date stars

00:18:26 --> 00:18:29 in terms of how old they are it's by the

00:18:29 --> 00:18:30 number of

00:18:30 --> 00:18:32 chemical how much of the chemical

00:18:32 --> 00:18:36 elements is in their atmospheres um so a

00:18:36 --> 00:18:40 star like the sun its atmosphere is rich

00:18:40 --> 00:18:42 in all the you know I can't remember the

00:18:42 --> 00:18:45 number it's 60 or 70 different elements

00:18:45 --> 00:18:48 which are in the sun's atmosphere uh

00:18:48 --> 00:18:50 might might even be more than that um

00:18:50 --> 00:18:55 and uh it's uh essentially uh a highly

00:18:55 --> 00:18:57 enriched cloud of gas that the sun

00:18:57 --> 00:18:59 formed from

00:18:59 --> 00:19:01 but if you look at stars which are very

00:19:01 --> 00:19:04 very old and there are some they've only

00:19:04 --> 00:19:06 got hydrogen and you know a little bit

00:19:06 --> 00:19:08 of iron in their Spectrum not much at

00:19:08 --> 00:19:11 all but the bottom but the bottom line

00:19:11 --> 00:19:13 is that over right since the beginning

00:19:13 --> 00:19:17 the the enrichment of the raw materials

00:19:17 --> 00:19:20 of life has been taking place uh so it

00:19:20 --> 00:19:22 doesn't actually explain the FY Paradox

00:19:22 --> 00:19:23 in fact that's part of the fairing

00:19:23 --> 00:19:25 Paradox that we know this has been going

00:19:25 --> 00:19:28 on for a long time so you know with the

00:19:28 --> 00:19:30 ingredients of Life have been there for

00:19:30 --> 00:19:33 a long time um why aren't we seeing it

00:19:33 --> 00:19:37 and you've had my answer to this many

00:19:37 --> 00:19:39 times before that the the likelihood

00:19:39 --> 00:19:41 seems to be that that step we think

00:19:41 --> 00:19:44 microbial life might be might be common

00:19:44 --> 00:19:48 might be reasonably um something we we

00:19:48 --> 00:19:49 might even know that within the next

00:19:49 --> 00:19:53 decade Andrew I hope we do uh but um

00:19:53 --> 00:19:56 higher life forms even plants may not

00:19:56 --> 00:19:58 exist anywhere else except here on Earth

00:19:58 --> 00:20:00 or at least in our galaxy you know then

00:20:00 --> 00:20:02 given the number of galaxies in the

00:20:02 --> 00:20:07 universe um 200 billion it's um it's

00:20:07 --> 00:20:11 probably uh it seems likely that uh

00:20:11 --> 00:20:13 there might be something in other

00:20:13 --> 00:20:15 galaxies but the possibility is that we

00:20:15 --> 00:20:17 are it in our own Galaxy which is a

00:20:17 --> 00:20:19 phenomenal s yeah it's it's hard to

00:20:19 --> 00:20:22 comprehend given the size and scope of

00:20:22 --> 00:20:24 the universe and all the situations that

00:20:24 --> 00:20:27 exist that life couldn't exist somewhere

00:20:27 --> 00:20:30 else you just got to look how life grabs

00:20:30 --> 00:20:32 hole in the most hostile environments on

00:20:32 --> 00:20:34 Earth so it stands to reason that

00:20:35 --> 00:20:36 there's got to be some form of life

00:20:36 --> 00:20:39 beyond our planet possibly even in our

00:20:39 --> 00:20:44 solar system yeah uh but yeah as you say

00:20:44 --> 00:20:47 going from microbial to plant life is a

00:20:47 --> 00:20:51 giant leap and then going from microbial

00:20:51 --> 00:20:56 to intelligent life is a massive leap

00:20:56 --> 00:20:59 and I think

00:20:59 --> 00:21:01 it you could put it down to the fact

00:21:01 --> 00:21:05 that the formula has to be right the

00:21:05 --> 00:21:06 circumstances have to be right the

00:21:06 --> 00:21:08 environment has to be right all the

00:21:08 --> 00:21:12 things that created us have to exist

00:21:12 --> 00:21:15 somewhere else in some capacity for

00:21:15 --> 00:21:19 intelligent life to spawn and you know

00:21:19 --> 00:21:22 again you probably would say given the

00:21:22 --> 00:21:23 size of the

00:21:23 --> 00:21:27 universe it's got to exist somewhere but

00:21:27 --> 00:21:29 no evidence of it

00:21:29 --> 00:21:31 and even if it does exist we may never

00:21:31 --> 00:21:33 know about it because of the distances

00:21:33 --> 00:21:36 yeah I mean you know a big step with

00:21:36 --> 00:21:38 this will come with the James web Space

00:21:38 --> 00:21:39 Telescope one of the things that they're

00:21:39 --> 00:21:42 going to be doing is uh analyzing to

00:21:42 --> 00:21:44 death the atmospheres of

00:21:44 --> 00:21:46 exoplanets um and yeah as soon as

00:21:46 --> 00:21:48 something you know cfc's or something

00:21:48 --> 00:21:50 like that turn up in one of those then

00:21:50 --> 00:21:51 you've suddenly changed the whole name

00:21:51 --> 00:21:54 of the game unless it's some life form

00:21:54 --> 00:21:57 that's been created in a completely

00:21:57 --> 00:21:59 different yeah yeah

00:21:59 --> 00:22:01 ccum I think astrobiologists are pretty

00:22:01 --> 00:22:03 open-minded about that they look at all

00:22:03 --> 00:22:05 kinds of different chemical

00:22:05 --> 00:22:07 possibilities for for creating life ones

00:22:07 --> 00:22:09 that don't involve water at all I mean

00:22:09 --> 00:22:13 all life on Earth is waterbased but yeah

00:22:13 --> 00:22:16 no great question uh great question

00:22:16 --> 00:22:19 thank you Simon Let's uh go to our next

00:22:19 --> 00:22:24 question and this comes from Liz Hello

00:22:24 --> 00:22:26 Lord duntley and Professor Watson this

00:22:26 --> 00:22:28 is Liz from Florida and I have a

00:22:28 --> 00:22:30 question about Mars now this may be a

00:22:30 --> 00:22:34 more of a Sci-Fi question but

00:22:34 --> 00:22:37 nonetheless we know that the core is

00:22:37 --> 00:22:40 dead on planet Mars and as we know

00:22:40 --> 00:22:43 without an active core there is a lack

00:22:43 --> 00:22:46 of magnetic field which will essentially

00:22:46 --> 00:22:49 not be able to sustain an atmosphere now

00:22:49 --> 00:22:51 we can terraform an atmosphere all we

00:22:51 --> 00:22:54 want but over time that will essentially

00:22:54 --> 00:22:57 seep out through the cracks and there

00:22:57 --> 00:22:59 will be no more atmosphere

00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 now is it possible to harvest the sun's

00:23:02 --> 00:23:05 energy as we know the planet gets

00:23:05 --> 00:23:08 radiated quite a bit is it possible to

00:23:08 --> 00:23:11 harvest that energy in let's say some

00:23:11 --> 00:23:13 kind of towers or something that can

00:23:13 --> 00:23:16 then send the shock down through the

00:23:16 --> 00:23:18 planet down to the core and recharge the

00:23:18 --> 00:23:23 core so kind of act as a planetary

00:23:23 --> 00:23:26 defibrillator thank you for your time

00:23:26 --> 00:23:27 wow I I like the question I like the

00:23:28 --> 00:23:30 concept very sci-fi in fact they did

00:23:30 --> 00:23:32 make a movie called The Core because the

00:23:32 --> 00:23:34 core of the Earth was slowing down and

00:23:34 --> 00:23:36 threatening life on Earth as we know it

00:23:36 --> 00:23:39 so they they sent a crew down on a

00:23:39 --> 00:23:43 special drill ship to get to the core

00:23:43 --> 00:23:45 and fired nuclear charges into it to

00:23:45 --> 00:23:48 reignite it so um yeah that's been done

00:23:48 --> 00:23:50 in sci-fi what what happened Andrew what

00:23:51 --> 00:23:53 was the outcome of that oh they fixed it

00:23:53 --> 00:23:56 oh they fixed it of course spoiler alert

00:23:56 --> 00:24:00 yeah yes spoiler alert

00:24:00 --> 00:24:04 um yeah the planetary defi defibrillator

00:24:05 --> 00:24:07 I love the idea um or Packa whacker as

00:24:08 --> 00:24:09 we call him in Australia I should

00:24:09 --> 00:24:12 probably now explain that um K Kerri

00:24:12 --> 00:24:15 Packer was a media magnate uh in

00:24:15 --> 00:24:17 Australia very powerful very rich man

00:24:17 --> 00:24:19 Australia's richest man for a long time

00:24:20 --> 00:24:22 didn't take care of himself healthwise

00:24:22 --> 00:24:24 very well and had a heart attack one day

00:24:24 --> 00:24:28 and the ambulance uh used a

00:24:28 --> 00:24:31 defibrillator to save his life and he

00:24:31 --> 00:24:33 found out that there just weren't many

00:24:33 --> 00:24:35 of those MH so he paid for every

00:24:35 --> 00:24:38 ambulance in New South Wales to have a

00:24:38 --> 00:24:40 defibrillator uh so that they could save

00:24:40 --> 00:24:43 people's lives like they saved him uh

00:24:43 --> 00:24:46 which was a great great thing yeah and

00:24:46 --> 00:24:48 uh we affectionately referred them to

00:24:48 --> 00:24:50 them as Packa whackers as we do in this

00:24:50 --> 00:24:52 country we give everything a nickname so

00:24:52 --> 00:24:54 Packa whackers are what

00:24:54 --> 00:24:58 a that's fantastic I think I knew about

00:24:58 --> 00:24:59 the principle but I didn't know that's

00:24:59 --> 00:25:05 what they were called very yeah uh well

00:25:05 --> 00:25:06 that's probably the most interesting

00:25:06 --> 00:25:10 part of the answer to this question

00:25:10 --> 00:25:14 oh um look it it is yeah terraforming

00:25:14 --> 00:25:19 Mars is it's it's not possible because

00:25:19 --> 00:25:21 it's not just the atmospheric sorry the

00:25:21 --> 00:25:23 lack of a magnetic field that stops you

00:25:23 --> 00:25:26 holding on to an atmosphere uh it's the

00:25:26 --> 00:25:29 fact that the planet's too small it's um

00:25:29 --> 00:25:32 once again it's uh it's it's connected

00:25:32 --> 00:25:35 with the just simply the gravitational

00:25:35 --> 00:25:38 pull uh that is needed to hold on to an

00:25:38 --> 00:25:40 atmosphere like ours which mes doesn't

00:25:40 --> 00:25:43 have um it

00:25:43 --> 00:25:45 clearly an early stage in its life did

00:25:45 --> 00:25:47 have an atmosphere because we see

00:25:47 --> 00:25:49 evidence of water and that sort of thing

00:25:49 --> 00:25:51 and it may well be that the magnetism

00:25:51 --> 00:25:53 then was high enough to certainly to

00:25:53 --> 00:25:57 stop it being eroded away by uh by the

00:25:57 --> 00:25:59 solar wind and things that sort but um

00:25:59 --> 00:26:03 but the it's it's always going to be

00:26:03 --> 00:26:06 uh you know it's always going to be a

00:26:06 --> 00:26:08 negative answer to a longlasting

00:26:08 --> 00:26:10 atmosphere like the Earth because it

00:26:10 --> 00:26:13 just drifts off it's not not heavy

00:26:13 --> 00:26:15 enough in fact we see it happening

00:26:15 --> 00:26:19 there's um it's the Marvin spacecraft uh

00:26:19 --> 00:26:20 um a NASA spacecraft that that can

00:26:20 --> 00:26:22 actually that actually watches atoms

00:26:22 --> 00:26:25 leaving Mars's atmosphere um there's

00:26:25 --> 00:26:27 several images that show different

00:26:27 --> 00:26:30 species of atoms drifting off including

00:26:30 --> 00:26:33 carbon the carbon dioxide and oxygen and

00:26:33 --> 00:26:36 hydrogen which makes Marvin

00:26:36 --> 00:26:39 paranoid think about that

00:26:39 --> 00:26:41 one yes I like

00:26:41 --> 00:26:45 that yeah um I wish I could think of

00:26:45 --> 00:26:49 things like that anyway never mind um so

00:26:49 --> 00:26:50 stirring up the

00:26:50 --> 00:26:53 core um if you could do it and I think

00:26:53 --> 00:26:56 the answer to that is there's no known

00:26:56 --> 00:26:57 physical method that would let you do

00:26:57 --> 00:26:58 that

00:26:58 --> 00:27:00 uh what you'd have to do is heat it up

00:27:00 --> 00:27:04 so that it became uh more liquid there

00:27:04 --> 00:27:06 may be a bit of liquidity there now but

00:27:06 --> 00:27:08 there's not enough to create a Dynamo to

00:27:08 --> 00:27:10 generate the magnetic field yes it's

00:27:10 --> 00:27:12 it's possibly done a piston engine thing

00:27:12 --> 00:27:13 and

00:27:13 --> 00:27:16 seized seed that's right yeah in which

00:27:16 --> 00:27:20 case unseizing it um needn't necessarily

00:27:20 --> 00:27:22 start it spinning again so you might

00:27:22 --> 00:27:24 still wind up with no magnetic field

00:27:24 --> 00:27:27 even if you you you nuked it to boil to

00:27:27 --> 00:27:30 boil it up a bit H so um my answer to

00:27:30 --> 00:27:32 all that is to create artificial

00:27:32 --> 00:27:34 environments in space which you can

00:27:34 --> 00:27:36 control and you know with mega

00:27:36 --> 00:27:38 engineering live in bubbles yeah that's

00:27:38 --> 00:27:41 right yeah there you are thanks Liz for

00:27:41 --> 00:27:42 the question

00:27:42 --> 00:27:44 that's thanks for the question probably

00:27:44 --> 00:27:50 Beyond capability to fire up the core um

00:27:50 --> 00:27:53 yeah but you never know one day in years

00:27:53 --> 00:27:54 to come we might be able to harness the

00:27:54 --> 00:27:57 energy of the Sun and do all sorts of

00:27:57 --> 00:27:59 weird and wonderful things

00:27:59 --> 00:28:02 who

00:28:02 --> 00:28:06 knows and I feel fine Space Nuts hello

00:28:07 --> 00:28:09 again space Nutters this is Anna from

00:28:09 --> 00:28:11 astronomy daily the podcast stopping by

00:28:11 --> 00:28:12 again with a couple of the important

00:28:12 --> 00:28:14 stories we've been following over the

00:28:14 --> 00:28:17 past week we'll dive into spacex's

00:28:17 --> 00:28:19 upcoming Starship test flight with its

00:28:19 --> 00:28:21 first ever payload deployment and blue

00:28:21 --> 00:28:24 origin's highly anticipated new Glenn

00:28:24 --> 00:28:25 rocket

00:28:25 --> 00:28:27 debut let's get rolling with today's

00:28:27 --> 00:28:29 news

00:28:29 --> 00:28:31 SpaceX is gearing up for an exciting

00:28:31 --> 00:28:34 Milestone with their seventh Starship

00:28:34 --> 00:28:36 test flight marking the first time the

00:28:36 --> 00:28:38 massive rocket will attempt to deploy a

00:28:38 --> 00:28:41 payload in Space the mission will carry

00:28:41 --> 00:28:44 10 starlink satellite simulators

00:28:44 --> 00:28:46 designed to match the size and weight of

00:28:46 --> 00:28:48 their next Generation V3

00:28:48 --> 00:28:50 satellites these dummy satellites will

00:28:50 --> 00:28:53 follow the same suborbital trajectory as

00:28:53 --> 00:28:55 Starship with their Journey ending in a

00:28:55 --> 00:28:58 planned splash down in the Indian Ocean

00:28:58 --> 00:29:00 this test is crucial for spacex's future

00:29:00 --> 00:29:03 plans as they're developing Starship to

00:29:03 --> 00:29:05 carry their Advanced V3 starlink

00:29:05 --> 00:29:07 satellites which promis to deliver

00:29:07 --> 00:29:10 impressive gigabit internet speeds to

00:29:10 --> 00:29:12 subscribers the upcoming test flight

00:29:12 --> 00:29:14 will showcase a significantly upgraded

00:29:14 --> 00:29:17 version of Starship the new generation

00:29:17 --> 00:29:19 vehicle features important improvements

00:29:19 --> 00:29:21 to boost reliability and performance

00:29:21 --> 00:29:24 including a redesigned propulsion system

00:29:24 --> 00:29:27 and a 25% increase in propellant volume

00:29:27 --> 00:29:29 enabling the rocket to undertake longer

00:29:29 --> 00:29:31 missions one of the most challenging

00:29:31 --> 00:29:33 aspects of this Mission will be the

00:29:33 --> 00:29:35 attempted recovery of starship's

00:29:35 --> 00:29:38 reusable booster using a landing pad

00:29:38 --> 00:29:40 this maneuver which had to be canceled

00:29:40 --> 00:29:41 during the previous test flight in

00:29:42 --> 00:29:44 November could result in Sonic booms

00:29:44 --> 00:29:46 around the landing Zone as the booster

00:29:46 --> 00:29:49 decelerates from supersonic speeds if

00:29:49 --> 00:29:51 automated health checks indicate any

00:29:51 --> 00:29:53 concerns with the super heavy booster or

00:29:53 --> 00:29:55 Tower the backup plan involves a

00:29:55 --> 00:29:57 controlled splash down in the Gulf of

00:29:57 --> 00:29:59 Mexico

00:29:59 --> 00:30:00 the test flight is currently scheduled

00:30:00 --> 00:30:02 for January 10th though weather

00:30:02 --> 00:30:04 conditions could affect the launch date

00:30:04 --> 00:30:07 with FAA clearance already secured this

00:30:07 --> 00:30:09 Mission represents a significant step

00:30:09 --> 00:30:12 forward in spacex's ambitious plans to

00:30:12 --> 00:30:14 revolutionize satellite deployment

00:30:14 --> 00:30:16 capabilities and Advance their starlink

00:30:16 --> 00:30:19 Network another exciting launch On the

00:30:19 --> 00:30:22 Horizon Blue origin is on the verge of a

00:30:22 --> 00:30:24 historic moment as they prepare to

00:30:24 --> 00:30:26 launch their first new Glenn rocket from

00:30:26 --> 00:30:28 Cape Canaveral space force station in

00:30:29 --> 00:30:31 Florida after years of development since

00:30:31 --> 00:30:33 Jeff Bezos first announced the project

00:30:33 --> 00:30:36 in 2016 the company is finally ready to

00:30:36 --> 00:30:37 demonstrate their entry into the heavy

00:30:37 --> 00:30:40 lift launch market the launch window

00:30:40 --> 00:30:42 opens as early as January 6th at 1:00

00:30:42 --> 00:30:45 a.m. eastern time with multiple backup

00:30:45 --> 00:30:48 opportunities through January 12th the

00:30:48 --> 00:30:50 Rockets first stage booster cleverly

00:30:50 --> 00:30:51 named so you're telling me there's a

00:30:51 --> 00:30:54 chance will attempt a landing at Sea on

00:30:54 --> 00:30:56 their drone ship Jaclyn named after

00:30:56 --> 00:30:58 bezos's Mother

00:30:58 --> 00:31:00 new Glenn represents a significant

00:31:00 --> 00:31:02 advancement in launch vehicle capability

00:31:02 --> 00:31:04 Standing impressively Tall with a

00:31:04 --> 00:31:07 massive 23-ft payload fairing it offers

00:31:07 --> 00:31:08 more than double the volume of typical

00:31:09 --> 00:31:12 15ft fairings used by other Rockets this

00:31:12 --> 00:31:13 extra space gives customers

00:31:13 --> 00:31:15 unprecedented flexibility in how they

00:31:15 --> 00:31:18 package their payloads the Rocket's

00:31:18 --> 00:31:20 performance specifications are equally

00:31:20 --> 00:31:23 impressive capable of delivering up to

00:31:23 --> 00:31:26 45 metric tons to low earth orbit and 13

00:31:26 --> 00:31:29 metric tons to geostationary orbit like

00:31:29 --> 00:31:32 spacex's rockets new Glenn is designed

00:31:32 --> 00:31:34 for reusability with each booster

00:31:34 --> 00:31:37 projected to complete up to 25 flights

00:31:37 --> 00:31:40 for this debut Mission designated ng1

00:31:40 --> 00:31:41 the rocket will carry the blue ring

00:31:42 --> 00:31:45 Pathfinder a 45 0000 pound payload

00:31:45 --> 00:31:47 simulator this test article will

00:31:47 --> 00:31:49 validate crucial systems including

00:31:49 --> 00:31:52 Communications arrays Power Systems and

00:31:52 --> 00:31:54 flight computers that will be used in

00:31:54 --> 00:31:57 future operational missions blue origin

00:31:57 --> 00:31:58 already has an impressive lineup of

00:31:58 --> 00:32:00 customers waiting to fly on new Glenn

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