MOND vs. Dark Matter: A New Perspective on Cosmic Mysteries
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MOND vs. Dark Matter: A New Perspective on Cosmic Mysteries

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In this episode of SpaceTime, we uncover exciting new research challenging our understanding of dark matter, reveal hidden treasures beneath the Earth's surface, and explore the potential for life on Titan, Saturn's enigmatic moon.

Modified Newtonian Dynamics: A Dark Matter Alternative

Recent studies suggest that modified Newtonian dynamics (MOND) may serve as a viable alternative to the elusive dark matter hypothesis. This theory, proposed by physicist Mordecai Milgrom, modifies Newton's laws to explain the gravitational behavior observed in galaxies without relying on dark matter. We delve into the latest findings that support MOND, including a novel method for measuring gravity in wide binary star systems, which indicates that gravity may actually be stronger than Newton's predictions under certain conditions.

Earth's Hidden Gold Reserves

A groundbreaking study reveals that Earth's core may contain vast reserves of gold and other precious metals, far beyond what is accessible on the surface. Researchers discovered traces of ruthenium in volcanic rocks from Hawaii, suggesting that these metals originated from the core and are leaking into the mantle. This research opens new avenues for understanding Earth's internal dynamics and the movement of materials from the core to the surface.

Searching for Life's Chemistry on Titan

NASA's upcoming Dragonfly mission aims to investigate the intriguing chemistry of life on Titan, Saturn's largest moon. With its organic-rich environment and unique geological features, Titan presents an opportunity to study prebiotic chemistry in a way that Earth cannot. We explore how Dragonfly will analyze the moon's surface and atmosphere to uncover clues about the processes that may have led to the emergence of life, potentially reshaping our understanding of habitability in the universe.

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Astrophysical Journal

https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/0004-637X (https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/0004-637X)

Nature

https://www.nature.com/nature/ (https://www.nature.com/nature/)

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00:00 This is Space Time Series 28, Episode 68 for broadcast on 6 June 2025

01:00 Modified Newtonian dynamics as an alternative to dark matter

12:15 Earth's hidden gold reserves

22:30 Searching for life's chemistry on Titan

30:00 Science report: Ancient tool-making from whale bones and quantum computing breakthroughs

Episode link: https://play.headliner.app/episode/27507595?utm_source=youtube

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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 This is Spacetime Series 28, episode 68

00:00:03 --> 00:00:05 for broadcast on the 6th of June,

00:00:05 --> 00:00:08 2025. Coming up on Spacetime,

00:00:08 --> 00:00:10 confirmation of modified Newtonian

00:00:10 --> 00:00:12 dynamics is a viable alternative to dark

00:00:12 --> 00:00:15 matter. A new study shows the Earth's

00:00:15 --> 00:00:17 core contains vast hidden gold reserves

00:00:17 --> 00:00:20 and looking for the chemistry of life on

00:00:20 --> 00:00:23 the Saturnian moon Titan. All that and

00:00:23 --> 00:00:26 more coming up on Spaceime.

00:00:26 --> 00:00:31 Welcome to Space Time with Stuart

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00:00:44 --> 00:00:47 Garry. A new study has provided more

00:00:47 --> 00:00:49 evidence that the hypothesis of modified

00:00:49 --> 00:00:51 Newtonian dynamics or Mond could provide

00:00:52 --> 00:00:55 a plausible alternative to dark matter.

00:00:55 --> 00:00:56 Dark matter is one of the biggest

00:00:56 --> 00:00:59 mysteries in science today. It's a

00:00:59 --> 00:01:01 mysterious invisible substance which

00:01:01 --> 00:01:03 only interacts gravitationally with

00:01:03 --> 00:01:05 ordinary so-called barionic matter,

00:01:05 --> 00:01:07 providing the additional mass needed to,

00:01:07 --> 00:01:09 for example, stop galaxies from flinging

00:01:09 --> 00:01:11 apart as they revolve. And there's a lot

00:01:11 --> 00:01:14 of it making up over 85% of all the

00:01:14 --> 00:01:16 matter in the universe. And that's

00:01:16 --> 00:01:18 disturbing for science because it means

00:01:18 --> 00:01:21 less than 15% of the universe is made up

00:01:21 --> 00:01:23 of the stuff we know, the normal bionic

00:01:23 --> 00:01:25 matter, the stuff stars, planets,

00:01:25 --> 00:01:27 houses, trees, cars, cats, and people

00:01:27 --> 00:01:29 are made of. The problem is scientists

00:01:29 --> 00:01:32 have no idea what dark matter is. There

00:01:32 --> 00:01:34 are several subatomic candidates for it,

00:01:34 --> 00:01:36 but there's no proof. And that's where

00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 modified Newtonian dynamics or M comes

00:01:39 --> 00:01:42 in. Now, M is a theory that proposes a

00:01:42 --> 00:01:44 modified form of Newton's laws to

00:01:44 --> 00:01:46 account for the observed properties of

00:01:46 --> 00:01:49 galaxies. M was developed back in 1982

00:01:49 --> 00:01:52 by Israeli physicist Morai Mgrim. Mgrim

00:01:52 --> 00:01:54 noted that galaxy's rotational curve

00:01:54 --> 00:01:56 data, which seemed to show the galaxies

00:01:56 --> 00:01:58 contain more matter than is observed,

00:01:58 --> 00:01:59 could also be explained if the

00:02:00 --> 00:02:01 gravitational force experienced by a

00:02:01 --> 00:02:03 star in the outer regions of a galaxy

00:02:03 --> 00:02:05 decays more slowly than what's predicted

00:02:05 --> 00:02:08 by Newton's law of gravity. So modifies

00:02:08 --> 00:02:10 Newton's laws for extremely small

00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 accelerations which are common in

00:02:12 --> 00:02:14 galaxies and galaxy clusters and this

00:02:14 --> 00:02:16 provided a good fit for the rotational

00:02:16 --> 00:02:18 curve data while at the same time

00:02:18 --> 00:02:20 leaving the dynamics of say our solar

00:02:20 --> 00:02:22 system with its strong gravitational

00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 field intact. The new research reported

00:02:25 --> 00:02:27 in the astrophysical journal looked at

00:02:27 --> 00:02:29 wide binary stars with separations

00:02:29 --> 00:02:32 greater than 2 astronomical units

00:02:32 --> 00:02:33 which are interesting natural

00:02:33 --> 00:02:35 laboratories for allowing a direct probe

00:02:35 --> 00:02:37 of gravity at low acceleration. weaker

00:02:37 --> 00:02:40 than about 1 nanome/s squared. By the

00:02:40 --> 00:02:42 way, an astronomical unit, well, that's

00:02:42 --> 00:02:43 the average distance between the earth

00:02:43 --> 00:02:45 and the sun. About 150 million

00:02:45 --> 00:02:48 kilometers or 8.3 light minutes. And

00:02:48 --> 00:02:50 that's where the new method comes in.

00:02:50 --> 00:02:53 Astrophysicist Caillong Sha from Seong

00:02:53 --> 00:02:54 University has developed a new method of

00:02:54 --> 00:02:56 measuring gravity with all three

00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 components of the velocities of stars as

00:02:58 --> 00:03:00 a major improvement over existing

00:03:00 --> 00:03:02 statistical methods which rely on sky

00:03:02 --> 00:03:05 projected two-dimensional models. The

00:03:05 --> 00:03:06 new method derives directly the

00:03:06 --> 00:03:08 probability three-dimensional

00:03:08 --> 00:03:09 distribution of gravity between a

00:03:10 --> 00:03:11 distant pair of stars in a binary

00:03:11 --> 00:03:14 system. She says existing methods to

00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 infer gravity have the limitation that

00:03:16 --> 00:03:18 only the sky projected velocities are

00:03:18 --> 00:03:21 being used and so they have limitations

00:03:21 --> 00:03:22 in accounting for the uncertainties of

00:03:22 --> 00:03:24 factors including stellar masses to

00:03:24 --> 00:03:26 derive the probability distribution of a

00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 gravity parameter. This new method

00:03:29 --> 00:03:32 overcomes these limitations. Until now,

00:03:32 --> 00:03:33 the motions of wide binaries could only

00:03:33 --> 00:03:36 be measured in a sort of snapshot method

00:03:36 --> 00:03:37 observed only at a specific phase of

00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 orbital motion. That's because of the

00:03:40 --> 00:03:41 very long orbital periods of these

00:03:41 --> 00:03:43 binaries, which ideally should be

00:03:43 --> 00:03:45 observed for the full orbit. And that's

00:03:45 --> 00:03:46 where the new method comes in. It

00:03:46 --> 00:03:48 requires accurate values for a third

00:03:48 --> 00:03:51 velocity component, the line of sight or

00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 radial velocity. So only wide binaries

00:03:53 --> 00:03:55 with precisely measured radial

00:03:55 --> 00:03:57 velocities could be used. Now to test

00:03:57 --> 00:03:59 the model, Sheay looked at 300 wide

00:03:59 --> 00:04:01 binaries with relatively precise radial

00:04:01 --> 00:04:03 velocities which was selected from the

00:04:03 --> 00:04:05 European Space Ay's Guide Database 3

00:04:05 --> 00:04:08 release. Sheay found that for wide

00:04:08 --> 00:04:09 binaries whose stars orbit each other

00:04:09 --> 00:04:11 with an internal acceleration greater

00:04:11 --> 00:04:13 than about 10 nanome/s squared, the

00:04:13 --> 00:04:16 inferred gravity is precisely Newtonian.

00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 But for an internal acceleration lower

00:04:18 --> 00:04:20 than about 1 nanometer/s squared or a

00:04:20 --> 00:04:22 separation greater than about 2

00:04:22 --> 00:04:24 astronomical units, inferred gravity is

00:04:24 --> 00:04:26 actually about 40 to 50% stronger than

00:04:26 --> 00:04:29 Newton. The significance of this

00:04:29 --> 00:04:31 deviation is 4.2 sigma, meaning that

00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 standard gravity is outside the

00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 99% probability range and that just

00:04:37 --> 00:04:39 happens to match the predictions of

00:04:39 --> 00:04:41 Mond. Sheay says the findings are

00:04:41 --> 00:04:44 encouraging. Encouraging enough for

00:04:44 --> 00:04:46 further investigation.

00:04:46 --> 00:04:49 This is spaceime. Still to come, a new

00:04:49 --> 00:04:51 study shows that Earth's core would

00:04:51 --> 00:04:53 contain vast amounts of gold reserves

00:04:53 --> 00:04:55 and plans to look for the chemistry of

00:04:55 --> 00:04:58 life on Saturn's moon Titan. All that

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00:06:50 --> 00:06:53 show. A new study has found that Earth's

00:06:53 --> 00:06:55 largest gold reserves aren't kept deep

00:06:55 --> 00:06:57 inside Fort Knox, but instead lie buried

00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 deep under 3 kilometers of solid

00:07:00 --> 00:07:02 rock. A report in the journal Nature

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00:07:04 --> 00:07:06 99% of Earth's stores of gold and

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00:07:10 --> 00:07:13 beyond the reaches of humans. The

00:07:13 --> 00:07:14 findings are based on the discovery of

00:07:14 --> 00:07:16 traces of the precious metal ruinium in

00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 volcanic rocks on the islands of Hawaii

00:07:19 --> 00:07:21 that were literally blasted out from the

00:07:21 --> 00:07:23 Earth's core. Now, compared to Earth's

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00:07:25 --> 00:07:27 a slightly higher abundance of a

00:07:27 --> 00:07:30 specific runinium isotope, RU 100.

00:07:30 --> 00:07:32 That's because part of the ruinium,

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00:07:33 --> 00:07:34 together with gold and other precious

00:07:34 --> 00:07:36 metals when the planet formed 4.6

00:07:36 --> 00:07:38 billion years ago, came from a different

00:07:38 --> 00:07:40 source than the scarce amount contained

00:07:40 --> 00:07:42 in the Earth's mantle today. These

00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 differences in RU00 are so tiny that

00:07:44 --> 00:07:46 until now it was impossible to detect

00:07:46 --> 00:07:49 them. But a new test has now made it

00:07:49 --> 00:07:51 possible to resolve them. The unusually

00:07:51 --> 00:07:54 higher RU00 signal found in lavas on

00:07:54 --> 00:07:55 Earth's surface would have ultimately

00:07:55 --> 00:07:57 originated from the core mantle boundary

00:07:57 --> 00:08:00 region that's 3 km down. The studies

00:08:00 --> 00:08:03 authors Neils Mesling and Matias Wilbold

00:08:03 --> 00:08:05 from Gnham University say the results

00:08:05 --> 00:08:06 confirm that material in the Earth's

00:08:06 --> 00:08:08 core including gold and other precious

00:08:08 --> 00:08:10 metals are leaking into the planet's

00:08:10 --> 00:08:12 mantle above. The findings not only show

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00:08:14 --> 00:08:16 as previously assumed, it also proves

00:08:16 --> 00:08:17 that huge volumes of superheated

00:08:17 --> 00:08:19 metallic material, several hundreds of

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00:08:21 --> 00:08:23 originate from the core mantle boundary

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00:08:25 --> 00:08:28 oceanic islands like Hawaii. The authors

00:08:28 --> 00:08:30 say these new findings are opening up an

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00:08:31 --> 00:08:34 evolution of the internal dynamics of

00:08:34 --> 00:08:38 our home planet. This is spaceime. Still

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00:09:08 --> 00:09:10 When it descends through the thick

00:09:10 --> 00:09:12 golden haze of Saturn's moon Titan,

00:09:12 --> 00:09:15 NASA's Dragonfly rotocraft will find an

00:09:15 --> 00:09:18 eerily similar Earthlike terrain. It'll

00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 see dunes wrapping around Titan's

00:09:20 --> 00:09:22 equator. There'll be clouds drifting

00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 across its skies. Rain will be drizzling

00:09:25 --> 00:09:27 down to the surface, forming rivers,

00:09:27 --> 00:09:29 which flow into canyons, streaming into

00:09:29 --> 00:09:32 lakes, and eventually seas. But not

00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 everything is as familiar as it seems.

00:09:34 --> 00:09:38 See, at - 180° C, the sandunes on Titan

00:09:38 --> 00:09:40 aren't silicut grains, but organic

00:09:40 --> 00:09:43 material. The rivers, lakes, and seas

00:09:43 --> 00:09:45 aren't water, but liquid methane and

00:09:45 --> 00:09:49 ethane. On Titan, water is frozen solid

00:09:49 --> 00:09:51 forming bedrock. Titan, you see, is a

00:09:51 --> 00:09:54 frigid world laden with organic

00:09:54 --> 00:09:57 molecules. Yet, Dragonfly, a car-sized

00:09:57 --> 00:09:59 rotocraft set to launch no earlier than

00:09:59 --> 00:10:01 2028, will explore this frigid world to

00:10:01 --> 00:10:03 potentially answer one of science's

00:10:03 --> 00:10:06 biggest questions. How did life begin?

00:10:06 --> 00:10:08 Now, I admit seeking answers about life

00:10:08 --> 00:10:10 in a place where it can't likely survive

00:10:10 --> 00:10:12 seems strange, but that's precisely the

00:10:12 --> 00:10:15 point. Dragonfly principal investigator

00:10:15 --> 00:10:16 ZB Turtle from the John's Hopkins

00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 Applied Physics Laboratory in Lurel,

00:10:18 --> 00:10:20 Maryland says Dragonfly isn't a mission

00:10:20 --> 00:10:23 to detect life. Instead, it's a mission

00:10:23 --> 00:10:24 to investigate the chemistry that came

00:10:24 --> 00:10:27 before biology here on Earth. On Titan,

00:10:27 --> 00:10:29 scientists can explore the chemical

00:10:29 --> 00:10:30 processes that may have led to life on

00:10:30 --> 00:10:32 Earth without life complicating the

00:10:32 --> 00:10:35 picture. See, on Earth, life has already

00:10:35 --> 00:10:36 reshaped everything, burying its

00:10:36 --> 00:10:39 chemical forebears deep beneath eons of

00:10:39 --> 00:10:41 evolution. Turtle says you need to go

00:10:41 --> 00:10:43 from a simple to complex form of

00:10:43 --> 00:10:45 chemistry before you can jump across to

00:10:45 --> 00:10:47 biology. But science doesn't know all

00:10:48 --> 00:10:49 the steps. And Titan will allow

00:10:49 --> 00:10:51 researchers to uncover at least some of

00:10:51 --> 00:10:53 them. In this way, I guess you can think

00:10:53 --> 00:10:55 of Titan as an untouched chemical

00:10:55 --> 00:10:57 laboratory where all the ingredients

00:10:57 --> 00:10:59 known for life, organics, liquid, water,

00:10:59 --> 00:11:01 and energy exist and have interacted in

00:11:01 --> 00:11:04 the past. What dragonfly will uncover

00:11:04 --> 00:11:06 will illuminate a past long since erased

00:11:06 --> 00:11:08 on Earth. And it will refine science's

00:11:08 --> 00:11:10 understanding of habitability and

00:11:10 --> 00:11:11 whether the chemistry that sparked life

00:11:12 --> 00:11:15 on Earth is actually a universal rule or

00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 a wondrous cosmic fluke that only

00:11:17 --> 00:11:20 happened once. Before NASA's Cassini

00:11:20 --> 00:11:22 Huygens's mission, researchers didn't

00:11:22 --> 00:11:24 know just how rich Titan is in organic

00:11:24 --> 00:11:26 molecules. Huygen mission data combined

00:11:26 --> 00:11:28 with laboratory experiments have

00:11:28 --> 00:11:30 revealed a molecular smores board.

00:11:30 --> 00:11:33 ethane, propane, acetylene, acetone,

00:11:33 --> 00:11:36 vinyl cyanide, benzene. These molecules

00:11:36 --> 00:11:38 all fall to the surface forming thick

00:11:38 --> 00:11:40 deposits on Titan's frozen water

00:11:40 --> 00:11:42 bedrock. And scientists believe life

00:11:42 --> 00:11:43 related chemistry could have started

00:11:43 --> 00:11:45 there if given some liquid water, such

00:11:45 --> 00:11:47 as from, say, an asteroid impact. And

00:11:47 --> 00:11:49 that's why scientists are looking at a

00:11:49 --> 00:11:51 specific location on Titan called Silk

00:11:51 --> 00:11:55 Crater, an 80 km wide impact site. It's

00:11:55 --> 00:11:57 a key dragonfly destination, not only

00:11:57 --> 00:11:59 because it's covered in organics, but

00:11:59 --> 00:12:00 also because it may have once had liquid

00:12:00 --> 00:12:03 water for an extended period of time.

00:12:03 --> 00:12:05 See, the impact that forms silk melted

00:12:05 --> 00:12:07 the frozen water bedrock, thereby

00:12:07 --> 00:12:08 creating a temporary pool of liquid

00:12:08 --> 00:12:10 water that could have remained liquid

00:12:10 --> 00:12:12 for hundreds of thousands of years under

00:12:12 --> 00:12:14 an insulating layer of ice. Sort of like

00:12:14 --> 00:12:16 winter ponds here on Earth. Now, if a

00:12:16 --> 00:12:18 natural antifreeze like ammonia were

00:12:18 --> 00:12:20 mixed in, the pool could have remained

00:12:20 --> 00:12:21 unfrozen even longer. blending water

00:12:22 --> 00:12:23 with organics and the impact of silicon,

00:12:23 --> 00:12:25 phosphorus, sulfur, and iron to form a

00:12:25 --> 00:12:28 primordial soup. For decades now,

00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 scientists have simulated Earth's early

00:12:30 --> 00:12:31 conditions, mixing water with simple

00:12:31 --> 00:12:34 organics to create a sort of prebiotic

00:12:34 --> 00:12:35 soup, and then jumpst starting reactions

00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 with an electrical shock. The problem is

00:12:38 --> 00:12:40 time. Most of these tests last weeks,

00:12:40 --> 00:12:43 maybe a few months or years at most. But

00:12:43 --> 00:12:45 the milk pools and Silk Crater could

00:12:45 --> 00:12:46 possibly have lasted for tens of

00:12:46 --> 00:12:48 thousands of years. Now, that's still

00:12:48 --> 00:12:50 shorter than the hundreds of millions of

00:12:50 --> 00:12:51 years it took for life to emerge on

00:12:51 --> 00:12:54 Earth, but potentially it's enough time

00:12:54 --> 00:12:56 for critical chemistry to occur. Thing

00:12:56 --> 00:12:58 is, we don't know how long it took for

00:12:58 --> 00:12:59 Earth life to be created because

00:13:00 --> 00:13:01 conditions had to stabilize and the

00:13:01 --> 00:13:03 chemistry itself needed time. But the

00:13:03 --> 00:13:05 models show that if you do toss Titan's

00:13:05 --> 00:13:07 organics into water, tens of thousands

00:13:07 --> 00:13:09 of years should be plenty of time for

00:13:09 --> 00:13:12 chemistry to happen. And Dragonfly will

00:13:12 --> 00:13:14 test that theory. Landing near silk,

00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 it'll fly from sight to sight, analyzing

00:13:16 --> 00:13:18 the surface chemistry to investigate the

00:13:18 --> 00:13:20 frozen remains of what could have been

00:13:20 --> 00:13:23 prebiotic chemistry in action. Dragonfly

00:13:23 --> 00:13:25 will use a mass spectrometer to search

00:13:25 --> 00:13:27 for indicators of complex chemistry. For

00:13:27 --> 00:13:29 example, on Earth, amino acids,

00:13:29 --> 00:13:31 fundamental to proteins, appear in

00:13:31 --> 00:13:33 specific patterns. A world without life

00:13:33 --> 00:13:35 would merely manufacture the simplest

00:13:35 --> 00:13:38 amino acids and form fewer complex ones.

00:13:38 --> 00:13:41 Now, generally, Titan isn't regarded as

00:13:41 --> 00:13:43 habitable. It's far too cold for the

00:13:43 --> 00:13:44 chemistry of life as we know it to

00:13:44 --> 00:13:46 occur. And there's no liquid water on

00:13:46 --> 00:13:48 the surface where the organics and

00:13:48 --> 00:13:51 likely energy sources exist. Still,

00:13:51 --> 00:13:52 scientists are assuming that if a place

00:13:52 --> 00:13:54 has life's ingredients and enough time,

00:13:54 --> 00:13:57 complex chemistry, eventually even life,

00:13:57 --> 00:13:58 could

00:13:58 --> 00:14:01 emerge. Now, if Titan proves otherwise,

00:14:01 --> 00:14:02 it could mean scientists have

00:14:02 --> 00:14:04 misunderstood something about how life

00:14:04 --> 00:14:06 began. And that means life would be a

00:14:06 --> 00:14:08 lot rarer than what we thought. But of

00:14:08 --> 00:14:10 course, they won't know unless they

00:14:10 --> 00:14:12 look. And that's where Dragonfly comes

00:14:12 --> 00:14:16 in. This report from NASA TV. Saturn's

00:14:16 --> 00:14:18 largest moon, Titan, has a thick

00:14:18 --> 00:14:20 atmosphere and a frozen surface rich in

00:14:20 --> 00:14:24 organic molecules. In 2034, a NASA

00:14:24 --> 00:14:26 mission called Dragonfly will arrive at

00:14:26 --> 00:14:29 Titan and study its chemical makeup.

00:14:29 --> 00:14:32 Dragonfly is a rocraft designed to visit

00:14:32 --> 00:14:36 multiple sites across the moon's varied

00:14:36 --> 00:14:38 terrain. At each new landing site on

00:14:38 --> 00:14:41 Titan's surface, Dragonfly uses a pulse

00:14:41 --> 00:14:43 neutron generator and onboard gammaray

00:14:44 --> 00:14:46 sensor to detect key elements such as

00:14:46 --> 00:14:49 carbon and hydrogen in organic materials

00:14:49 --> 00:14:52 or oxygen in water ice. Dragonfly

00:14:52 --> 00:14:54 determines if there are well-defined

00:14:54 --> 00:14:56 layers of these materials just below the

00:14:56 --> 00:14:58 lander. For a closer inspection,

00:14:58 --> 00:15:01 Dragonfly uses its drill to generate

00:15:01 --> 00:15:03 tailings from Titan's hard, frozen

00:15:03 --> 00:15:05 surface.

00:15:05 --> 00:15:06 These surface samples can then be

00:15:06 --> 00:15:08 ingested through the pneumatic system

00:15:08 --> 00:15:11 carried with Titan air into the chilled

00:15:11 --> 00:15:13 sample lines into the sample collection

00:15:13 --> 00:15:16 carousel. One of the carousel sample

00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 cups is placed in a pneumatic port. The

00:15:19 --> 00:15:21 cup captures the surface material from

00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 the cold air stream and transfers it to

00:15:23 --> 00:15:26 the chemical laboratory for measurement.

00:15:26 --> 00:15:28 Pulses from a laser release large

00:15:28 --> 00:15:29 organic molecules from the surface

00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 sample for analysis in the mass

00:15:31 --> 00:15:34 spectrometer. The mass spectrometer

00:15:34 --> 00:15:36 sorts molecules by mass and measures

00:15:36 --> 00:15:39 diagnostic fragments that tell dragonfly

00:15:39 --> 00:15:40 the kinds of chemical components that

00:15:40 --> 00:15:42 are present in the surface and whether

00:15:42 --> 00:15:44 there are molecules of prebiotic

00:15:44 --> 00:15:47 interest. For those potential prebiotic

00:15:47 --> 00:15:49 samples, a new cup is placed into an

00:15:50 --> 00:15:52 oven and heated to release molecules

00:15:52 --> 00:15:54 into a gas chromatograph where they are

00:15:54 --> 00:15:56 sorted for size and type before entering

00:15:56 --> 00:15:58 the mass spectrometer. This advanced

00:15:58 --> 00:16:01 separation of organic components

00:16:01 --> 00:16:03 includes isolating molecules with the

00:16:03 --> 00:16:05 same formula but different chyal

00:16:05 --> 00:16:07 arrangements or handedness. Having a

00:16:07 --> 00:16:09 preference for one-handedness over

00:16:09 --> 00:16:11 another is a key bio signature for life

00:16:11 --> 00:16:14 on Earth. When the chemical analysis is

00:16:14 --> 00:16:16 complete, Dragonfly may choose to take

00:16:16 --> 00:16:19 another surface sample or find a new

00:16:19 --> 00:16:29 location on Titan to investigate.

00:16:30 --> 00:16:31 This is

00:16:31 --> 00:16:46 [Music]

00:16:46 --> 00:16:49 spaceime. And time now to take another

00:16:49 --> 00:16:50 brief look at some of the other stories

00:16:50 --> 00:16:52 making news in science this week with a

00:16:52 --> 00:16:55 science report. A new study claims

00:16:55 --> 00:16:57 humans may have been making tools from

00:16:57 --> 00:16:59 well bones for at least the last 20

00:16:59 --> 00:17:01 years. The findings reported in the

00:17:02 --> 00:17:03 journal Nature Communications are based

00:17:03 --> 00:17:06 on an analysis of 83 bone tools and 90

00:17:06 --> 00:17:08 additional bones excavated from dig

00:17:08 --> 00:17:10 sites around Spain. The authors claimed

00:17:10 --> 00:17:12 that these objects could represent the

00:17:12 --> 00:17:15 earliest human use of whale remains. The

00:17:15 --> 00:17:17 bones came from at least five species of

00:17:17 --> 00:17:19 large whales, including sperm whales,

00:17:19 --> 00:17:21 fin whales, blue whales, and right or

00:17:21 --> 00:17:23 bowhead whales. Interestingly, a

00:17:23 --> 00:17:25 chemical analysis of the bones also

00:17:25 --> 00:17:26 showed that the feeding habits of the

00:17:26 --> 00:17:28 wells were slightly different from those

00:17:28 --> 00:17:30 species living

00:17:30 --> 00:17:33 today. Scientists have for the first

00:17:33 --> 00:17:35 time used a quantum computer to simulate

00:17:35 --> 00:17:37 the chemical dynamics of real compounds

00:17:37 --> 00:17:39 which could lead to new drugs and

00:17:39 --> 00:17:41 medical treatments. A report in the

00:17:41 --> 00:17:43 journal of the American Chemical Society

00:17:43 --> 00:17:45 claims the creation of new drugs or

00:17:45 --> 00:17:46 medical treatments are among the

00:17:46 --> 00:17:49 greatest promises of quantum computing.

00:17:49 --> 00:17:51 The research is a vital step towards

00:17:51 --> 00:17:53 modeling more complex molecules and

00:17:53 --> 00:17:55 designing bespoke chemicals that could

00:17:55 --> 00:17:57 lead to improved sunscreen or skin

00:17:57 --> 00:17:58 cancer

00:17:58 --> 00:18:01 treatments. A new study has found that

00:18:01 --> 00:18:03 biodiversity in Antarctic cells may be

00:18:03 --> 00:18:05 much greater than previously thought.

00:18:05 --> 00:18:07 The authors use DNA sequencing to

00:18:07 --> 00:18:09 measure biodiversity in some of the

00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 driest, coldest, and most nutrient poor

00:18:11 --> 00:18:13 soils weathered debris in front of a

00:18:13 --> 00:18:15 glacier in Antarctica. They found a

00:18:16 --> 00:18:17 range of previously unsuspect

00:18:17 --> 00:18:19 interactions between different organisms

00:18:19 --> 00:18:21 and these results imply that new

00:18:21 --> 00:18:22 mutually beneficial relationships play

00:18:22 --> 00:18:24 an essential role in shaping this

00:18:24 --> 00:18:26 system. A report in the journal

00:18:26 --> 00:18:29 Frontiers in Microbiology claims the

00:18:29 --> 00:18:30 findings indicate biodiversity in

00:18:30 --> 00:18:34 Arctica is far greater than previously

00:18:34 --> 00:18:36 thought. One of the most famous sea

00:18:36 --> 00:18:38 battles of the Second World War was the

00:18:38 --> 00:18:40 Battle of the Denmark Strait which

00:18:40 --> 00:18:43 occurred on the 24th of May 1941.

00:18:43 --> 00:18:44 It involved the British Royal Navy

00:18:44 --> 00:18:46 battleship HMS Prince of Wales and the

00:18:46 --> 00:18:49 battle cruiser HMS Hood. They fought the

00:18:49 --> 00:18:52 Nazi Cremarine battleship Bismar and the

00:18:52 --> 00:18:53 heavy cruiser Prince Ogans as they were

00:18:53 --> 00:18:55 attempting to break out of the North

00:18:55 --> 00:18:57 Atlantic between Greenland and Iceland

00:18:57 --> 00:18:59 in order to launch attacks on Allied

00:18:59 --> 00:19:01 merchant shipping. At the time, the Hood

00:19:01 --> 00:19:03 was celebrated as one of Britain's

00:19:03 --> 00:19:05 greatest all-time warships, a floating

00:19:05 --> 00:19:08 recruitment poster exemplifying the

00:19:08 --> 00:19:10 might of the Royal Navy. In fact, it had

00:19:10 --> 00:19:12 traveled the world, showing how

00:19:12 --> 00:19:15 Britannia ruled the seas. Yet, less than

00:19:15 --> 00:19:16 half an hour after intercepting and

00:19:16 --> 00:19:18 engaging Bismar, the Great Hood was

00:19:18 --> 00:19:21 sunk, going down in just 3 minutes with

00:19:21 --> 00:19:24 1 crew on board, only three of which

00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 survived. It was a massive blow to

00:19:26 --> 00:19:28 English pride at a time of war and a

00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 huge propaganda boost for the Nazis. And

00:19:31 --> 00:19:32 this is where this story gets

00:19:32 --> 00:19:34 interesting. It's claimed the news of

00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 the sinking of the hood was broken not

00:19:37 --> 00:19:39 by official channels, but by a Scottish

00:19:39 --> 00:19:41 medium, Helen Duncan, who was promptly

00:19:41 --> 00:19:42 arrested and charged with, of all

00:19:42 --> 00:19:44 things, witchcraft in order to keep a

00:19:44 --> 00:19:46 quiet. And as Tim Menum from Australian

00:19:46 --> 00:19:49 Skeptics explains, that brought her to

00:19:49 --> 00:19:51 the attention of no one less than Prime

00:19:51 --> 00:19:53 Minister Winston Churchill. And that

00:19:53 --> 00:19:55 resulted in the media beating up the

00:19:55 --> 00:19:57 story of Witty and Britain's last witch.

00:19:57 --> 00:19:59 Apparently, Winston Churchill, who was

00:19:59 --> 00:20:00 prime minister of Britain during the

00:20:00 --> 00:20:03 Second World War, wrote a memo to the

00:20:03 --> 00:20:04 courts here asking about why they were

00:20:04 --> 00:20:07 harassing a particular lady who was

00:20:07 --> 00:20:08 classed as a witch. Her name was Helen

00:20:08 --> 00:20:11 Duncan. She was born in the late 1800s,

00:20:11 --> 00:20:13 and she'd been around doing spiritual

00:20:13 --> 00:20:14 meetings, seances, that sort of stuff,

00:20:14 --> 00:20:16 calling up the dead. And during the war,

00:20:16 --> 00:20:18 she happened to mention to someone from

00:20:18 --> 00:20:20 the Admiraly a better ship sinking. Now,

00:20:20 --> 00:20:22 the details are a bit vague as to how

00:20:22 --> 00:20:24 much detail she had, but she said that a

00:20:24 --> 00:20:26 ship had just sunk and that the the

00:20:26 --> 00:20:28 person from the Adult said what phoned

00:20:28 --> 00:20:30 up and found out that no one had heard

00:20:30 --> 00:20:31 of it yet. That turned out to be true.

00:20:32 --> 00:20:33 Now, like a lot of stories, it might be

00:20:33 --> 00:20:35 embroidered a bit. But anyway, they

00:20:35 --> 00:20:37 charged her with the witchcraft act sort

00:20:37 --> 00:20:38 of designed to keep people like her off

00:20:38 --> 00:20:40 the streets. And then Churchill wrote an

00:20:40 --> 00:20:41 email saying, you know, what what are

00:20:41 --> 00:20:43 you doing about this witch? Why are you

00:20:43 --> 00:20:44 harassing this witch? Actually, what he

00:20:44 --> 00:20:46 was saying about why are you wasting

00:20:46 --> 00:20:48 court time on such a stupid little

00:20:48 --> 00:20:50 thing? and he called it obsolete tom

00:20:50 --> 00:20:51 foolery during this rather serious

00:20:51 --> 00:20:53 period of the second world war that she

00:20:53 --> 00:20:54 was fine actually she was put in prison

00:20:54 --> 00:20:56 for a short time when she got out she

00:20:56 --> 00:20:57 continued practicing for a bit but not

00:20:58 --> 00:20:59 that much longer the story was that she

00:20:59 --> 00:21:01 had a good reputation someone was saying

00:21:01 --> 00:21:03 that actually the court case gave her a

00:21:03 --> 00:21:04 better reputation of course a lot more

00:21:04 --> 00:21:06 business her family descendants are very

00:21:06 --> 00:21:08 much supportive of her but the story

00:21:08 --> 00:21:10 goes it's pretty much the people who

00:21:10 --> 00:21:11 went to see her who were convinced were

00:21:11 --> 00:21:13 from a mixture of backgrounds some of

00:21:13 --> 00:21:14 them pretty ordinary people some of them

00:21:14 --> 00:21:16 in high positions believed her others

00:21:16 --> 00:21:18 who had tested her didn't believe her a

00:21:18 --> 00:21:20 famous ghost hunter named Henry Price

00:21:20 --> 00:21:22 who was around that time in a lot of

00:21:22 --> 00:21:24 famous cases and he investigated her and

00:21:24 --> 00:21:26 he found out that she was his point of

00:21:26 --> 00:21:28 the issue was a shank. He was a a fake.

00:21:28 --> 00:21:30 Yeah, this this is a time when spiritual

00:21:30 --> 00:21:32 work case of she was listening to

00:21:32 --> 00:21:35 propaganda radio from the Germans and uh

00:21:35 --> 00:21:37 they boasted that the bismar had just

00:21:37 --> 00:21:39 sunk the hood and uh she started

00:21:39 --> 00:21:41 boasting about that herself and uh at

00:21:41 --> 00:21:43 that stage the admiral hadn't been told

00:21:43 --> 00:21:45 that the hood had been sunk and they

00:21:45 --> 00:21:46 wanted to know how she found out and

00:21:46 --> 00:21:48 there was no actual law they could

00:21:48 --> 00:21:49 charge her with so they dug up this

00:21:49 --> 00:21:52 thing from the what was it 1735 the

00:21:52 --> 00:21:53 witchcraft act that's right yeah a

00:21:54 --> 00:21:55 pretty old act it was actually still um

00:21:55 --> 00:21:57 in place in Australia too for a long

00:21:57 --> 00:21:59 time She was I think in one state was

00:21:59 --> 00:22:01 only taken out about 20 years ago. They

00:22:01 --> 00:22:02 thought it was a bit silly law. No one

00:22:02 --> 00:22:04 had ever been charged under it for a

00:22:04 --> 00:22:05 long time. The issue was where did she

00:22:05 --> 00:22:07 get her information from? Maybe she

00:22:07 --> 00:22:09 heard it from other sources, you know,

00:22:09 --> 00:22:10 German sources or whatever. Or maybe

00:22:10 --> 00:22:12 someone in the know told her before it

00:22:12 --> 00:22:14 became common knowledge. And you often

00:22:14 --> 00:22:15 wonder about some of these stories being

00:22:15 --> 00:22:17 a bit embroidered as far as the

00:22:17 --> 00:22:18 chronology goes, as far as, you know,

00:22:18 --> 00:22:19 what's the order of things, how much

00:22:19 --> 00:22:21 details should you give, etc. uh this

00:22:21 --> 00:22:23 thing about this story that came out

00:22:23 --> 00:22:24 recently. Winston Churchill got involved

00:22:24 --> 00:22:27 in this court case of this case against

00:22:27 --> 00:22:28 the witch. Not really true. He wrote an

00:22:28 --> 00:22:30 email. Probably took him about 3 minutes

00:22:30 --> 00:22:31 dictating it to somebody saying, you

00:22:32 --> 00:22:33 know, really don't you have more

00:22:33 --> 00:22:35 important things to do? And uh that was

00:22:35 --> 00:22:36 probably it. That's Tim Mendum from

00:22:36 --> 00:22:40 Australian Skeptics.

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