S27E134: Perseverance’s Rocky Ascent, Ramses Asteroid Ambition, and Shenzhou’s Space Station Arrival
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S27E134: Perseverance’s Rocky Ascent, Ramses Asteroid Ambition, and Shenzhou’s Space Station Arrival

SpaceTime Series 27 Episode 134

* Perseverance's Uphill Struggle in Jezero Crater

NASA's Mars Perseverance Rover faces challenges as it attempts to climb the steep and slippery ridgeline of Jezero Crater. Despite its previous experience with steep inclines, this mission marks the first time the rover has tackled such a challenging combination of slope and surface. Engineers are exploring new strategies, including driving backwards and zigzagging, to improve traction. The goal is to reach the crater's rim for valuable scientific exploration, with plans to study potential microbial life signs preserved in ancient rock layers.

* ESA's Ramses Mission to Apophis

The European Space Agency is preparing for its Ramses mission to study the asteroid Apophis as it makes a close flyby of Earth in 2029. This rare event offers a unique opportunity to understand Apophis's composition and reaction to gravitational forces, crucial for future planetary defence strategies. The mission is modelled on the HERA spacecraft, and aims to launch by 2028 to reach Apophis in time.

* Shenzhou 19 Docks with China's Space Station

China's Shenzhou 19 spacecraft has successfully docked with the Tiangong Space Station. The crew will conduct experiments, including tests on manufacturing lunar bricks, as part of China's goal to land taikonauts on the Moon by 2030. The mission highlights China's expanding space ambitions and technological advancements.

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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 this is spacetime series 27 episode 134

00:00:03 --> 00:00:05 for broadcast on the 6th of November

00:00:05 --> 00:00:09 2024 coming up on SpaceTime perseverance

00:00:09 --> 00:00:11 struggles as it tries to climb up the

00:00:11 --> 00:00:14 jezzro crater ridgel line Asus Ramsey's

00:00:14 --> 00:00:17 mission to study a doomsday asteroid and

00:00:17 --> 00:00:21 Beijing shenzu 19 arrives at China space

00:00:21 --> 00:00:25 station all that and more coming up on

00:00:25 --> 00:00:28 SpaceTime welcome to SpaceTime with

00:00:28 --> 00:00:30 Stuart Gary

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00:00:45 --> 00:00:47 n's Mar perseverance Rover has been

00:00:47 --> 00:00:49 struggling to negotiate a steeply

00:00:49 --> 00:00:51 sloping route up jro crater's Western

00:00:51 --> 00:00:53 Wall with the aim of trying to Crest the

00:00:53 --> 00:00:56 ring by early next month during the

00:00:56 --> 00:00:58 climb the Rovers imaged a sweeping view

00:00:58 --> 00:01:00 of jezzro creators in interior and the

00:01:00 --> 00:01:03 tracks it's left behind as it struggles

00:01:03 --> 00:01:05 to ascend the slippery 20° slope along

00:01:05 --> 00:01:08 the way the Rover captured its latest

00:01:08 --> 00:01:10 panoramic view near a location called

00:01:10 --> 00:01:12 farway Rock about halfway along the

00:01:12 --> 00:01:14 climb up the crater wall while

00:01:14 --> 00:01:16 perseverance has climbed 20° inclines

00:01:16 --> 00:01:19 before and both NASA's curiosity and

00:01:19 --> 00:01:21 opportunity Rovers have crested Hills at

00:01:21 --> 00:01:23 least 10° steeper this is the first time

00:01:23 --> 00:01:25 it's traveled up such a steep crate on

00:01:25 --> 00:01:28 such a slippery surface see during much

00:01:28 --> 00:01:29 of the climb the roover has being dry

00:01:29 --> 00:01:31 driving over Loosely packed dust and

00:01:31 --> 00:01:34 sand with only a thin brittle crust on

00:01:34 --> 00:01:36 several days perseverance only covered

00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 about 50% of the distance it would have

00:01:39 --> 00:01:41 on less slippery surfaces and on one

00:01:41 --> 00:01:43 occasion it only covered about 20% of

00:01:43 --> 00:01:46 the planned route Camden Miller from

00:01:46 --> 00:01:47 Nas's jet propulsion laboratory in

00:01:47 --> 00:01:50 Pasadena California says Mars Rover have

00:01:50 --> 00:01:52 driven over steeper terrain and they've

00:01:52 --> 00:01:54 driven over more slippery terrain as

00:01:54 --> 00:01:56 well but this is the first time one's

00:01:56 --> 00:01:58 needed to handle both at the same time

00:01:58 --> 00:02:00 and on such a scale he says for every

00:02:00 --> 00:02:03 two steps forward perseverance has been

00:02:03 --> 00:02:05 taking at least one step back when the

00:02:05 --> 00:02:07 Rover's Mission manager saw this was

00:02:07 --> 00:02:09 trending towards a long hard SLO they

00:02:09 --> 00:02:11 looked at new ways of climbing the Ridge

00:02:11 --> 00:02:13 one idea involved driving backwards up

00:02:13 --> 00:02:15 the slope that's because testing on

00:02:15 --> 00:02:17 Earth showed that under certain

00:02:17 --> 00:02:19 conditions the Rover's rocker Bergie

00:02:19 --> 00:02:21 suspension system maintained better

00:02:21 --> 00:02:24 traction during reverse driving they

00:02:24 --> 00:02:26 also looked at the idea of cross slope

00:02:26 --> 00:02:27 driving zigzagging backwards and

00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 forwards a third option involved driving

00:02:30 --> 00:02:32 closer to the northern edge of the

00:02:32 --> 00:02:34 Summerland Trail that's the name Mission

00:02:34 --> 00:02:35 managers had given to the Rover's path

00:02:35 --> 00:02:38 up the Crater Rim now data from these

00:02:38 --> 00:02:39 efforts showed that while all three

00:02:39 --> 00:02:42 approaches enhanced traction sticking

00:02:42 --> 00:02:43 close to the slope's northern Edge

00:02:43 --> 00:02:46 proved to be the most beneficial The

00:02:46 --> 00:02:48 Rovers planners believe the presence of

00:02:48 --> 00:02:50 larger rocks closer to the surface there

00:02:50 --> 00:02:52 made the difference the science team

00:02:52 --> 00:02:53 wants to get to the top of the craters

00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 room as soon as possible because of the

00:02:55 --> 00:02:57 scientific opportunities available up

00:02:57 --> 00:03:00 there in a few weeks person perseverance

00:03:00 --> 00:03:02 is expected to Crest the Crater Rim at a

00:03:02 --> 00:03:04 location the science team are calling

00:03:04 --> 00:03:06 Lookout Hill from there it'll drive

00:03:06 --> 00:03:09 about another 450 M to witch hazel Hill

00:03:09 --> 00:03:12 orbital data shows that witch hazel Hill

00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 contains likely toned layered bedrock

00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 and scientists want to compare this new

00:03:16 --> 00:03:18 site to Bright Angel that's the area

00:03:18 --> 00:03:20 where perseverance recently discovered

00:03:20 --> 00:03:22 and sampled the unusual sh of Falls Rock

00:03:22 --> 00:03:25 Ken Fairley is NASA's M perseverance

00:03:25 --> 00:03:28 Rover project scientist

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00:03:31 --> 00:03:33 perseverance is exploring jzo Crater

00:03:33 --> 00:03:35 where an ancient lake and river system

00:03:35 --> 00:03:37 once existed if microbes ever lived here

00:03:37 --> 00:03:39 signs of them could be preserved in

00:03:39 --> 00:03:41 these rocks about 3 and A2 billion years

00:03:41 --> 00:03:43 ago a river carved a canyon through the

00:03:43 --> 00:03:46 Crater Rim filling the crater with water

00:03:46 --> 00:03:47 and depositing sand and rocks that

00:03:47 --> 00:03:50 formed a Delta on Earth the record of

00:03:50 --> 00:03:51 such an ancient river and Lake would

00:03:51 --> 00:03:54 have been erased long ago that's why

00:03:54 --> 00:03:55 sending a robotic Explorer like

00:03:55 --> 00:03:58 perseverance is so valuable Mars is a

00:03:58 --> 00:03:59 special place that preserves a unique

00:03:59 --> 00:04:01 record of things that happened in the

00:04:01 --> 00:04:04 first billion years of the solar

00:04:04 --> 00:04:06 system in this area different Rock

00:04:06 --> 00:04:08 layers record different parts of the

00:04:08 --> 00:04:10 crater's history flat light colored

00:04:10 --> 00:04:11 rocks were deposited on the banks of a

00:04:11 --> 00:04:13 river flowing slowly across the

00:04:13 --> 00:04:15 landscape boulders were deposited later

00:04:15 --> 00:04:17 in what was likely a raging

00:04:17 --> 00:04:19 torrent lab equipment on Earth can

00:04:19 --> 00:04:21 accurately measure when a volcanic rock

00:04:21 --> 00:04:23 was formed so if you can return a sample

00:04:23 --> 00:04:25 this lava to Earth in the future we may

00:04:25 --> 00:04:28 know when and for how long water flowed

00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 into jezero

00:04:30 --> 00:04:31 [Music]

00:04:31 --> 00:04:33 from here perseverance will continue

00:04:33 --> 00:04:35 West we're lucky to have a route the

00:04:35 --> 00:04:37 Rover can safely drive up the rim right

00:04:37 --> 00:04:39 where we need it exploring rocks far

00:04:39 --> 00:04:40 older than those in jezzro and produced

00:04:41 --> 00:04:43 in an entirely different way since

00:04:43 --> 00:04:45 finishing its study of the crater floor

00:04:45 --> 00:04:47 perseverance has been climbing the Delta

00:04:47 --> 00:04:48 and piecing together the history of this

00:04:48 --> 00:04:50 once watery environment that's Ken

00:04:50 --> 00:04:53 Fairley NASA's Mass perseverance Rover

00:04:53 --> 00:04:56 project scientist and this is spacetime

00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 still to come Aces Ramsay mission to

00:04:59 --> 00:05:01 study doomsday asteroid and the shenzu

00:05:01 --> 00:05:04 19 spacecraft arrives at China space

00:05:04 --> 00:05:07 station all that and more still to come

00:05:07 --> 00:05:10 on space

00:05:10 --> 00:05:23 [Music]

00:05:23 --> 00:05:25 time the European space agency has

00:05:25 --> 00:05:28 signed a 63 million euro deal to begin

00:05:28 --> 00:05:30 Preparatory work for its proposed Ramsay

00:05:30 --> 00:05:33 mission to study the asteroid apus on

00:05:33 --> 00:05:38 April the 13th 2029 the 375 meter wide

00:05:38 --> 00:05:41 asteroid will pass just 32 km above

00:05:41 --> 00:05:43 the Earth's surface that's closer than

00:05:43 --> 00:05:46 the orbit of many satellites this rare

00:05:46 --> 00:05:48 event will offer a critical chance for

00:05:48 --> 00:05:50 scientific research and advancements in

00:05:50 --> 00:05:53 planetary defense the asteroids close en

00:05:53 --> 00:05:56 counter will likely expose subsurface

00:05:56 --> 00:05:57 material presenting a valuable

00:05:57 --> 00:05:59 opportunity to study apothesis

00:05:59 --> 00:06:00 composition and

00:06:00 --> 00:06:03 structure understanding how Apes reacts

00:06:03 --> 00:06:05 to gravitational tidal forces during the

00:06:05 --> 00:06:07 flyby could be key to Future efforts to

00:06:07 --> 00:06:11 divert hazardous asteroids ramsy will be

00:06:11 --> 00:06:13 modeled on the Hera spacecraft which

00:06:13 --> 00:06:14 launched last month on a mission to

00:06:14 --> 00:06:16 study the effects of the dart asteroid

00:06:16 --> 00:06:18 impact mission on the near Earth

00:06:18 --> 00:06:20 asteroid diddos and its Tiny Moon

00:06:20 --> 00:06:23 dimorphus the dart impactor smashed a

00:06:23 --> 00:06:26 huge crater IND dorus spraying out a

00:06:26 --> 00:06:29 massive debris Cloud it also changed d

00:06:29 --> 00:06:31 officers orbit around Diddy Moss

00:06:31 --> 00:06:34 shortening it by more than 32 minutes

00:06:34 --> 00:06:37 ramsy will need to launch by early 2028

00:06:37 --> 00:06:39 in order to reach apus in time for its

00:06:39 --> 00:06:42 near Earth flyby so what do we know

00:06:42 --> 00:06:45 about this near Earth asteroid 1999 42

00:06:45 --> 00:06:48 apus well it first triggered alarm bells

00:06:48 --> 00:06:50 in the astronomical Community back in

00:06:50 --> 00:06:53 2004 when initial observations suggested

00:06:53 --> 00:06:54 there was a possibility that it could

00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 crash into the Earth on April the 13th

00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 2029 now such an impact would have had

00:07:00 --> 00:07:02 Global consequences well beyond the

00:07:02 --> 00:07:04 destruction it would have created at

00:07:04 --> 00:07:06 Ground Zero apus would have impacted

00:07:06 --> 00:07:09 Earth with kinetic energy equivalent to

00:07:09 --> 00:07:13 1200 megatons of TNT Now by comparison

00:07:13 --> 00:07:15 the impacts that created meteor crater

00:07:15 --> 00:07:17 in Arizona about 50 years ago and

00:07:17 --> 00:07:20 the tangus event in Siberia in 1908 are

00:07:20 --> 00:07:23 estimated to have been between 3 and 10

00:07:23 --> 00:07:25 megatons the biggest hydrogen bomb ever

00:07:25 --> 00:07:28 exploded the Soviet Union's bomber was

00:07:28 --> 00:07:31 around 57 me gons while the 1883

00:07:31 --> 00:07:33 eruption of kraat TOA at the time the

00:07:33 --> 00:07:35 loudest noise ever heard by humans on

00:07:35 --> 00:07:37 planet Earth was the equivalent of

00:07:37 --> 00:07:40 roughly 200 megatons the exact effects

00:07:40 --> 00:07:42 of any impact would have varied based on

00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 the asteroid's composition and the

00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 location and angle of impact but any

00:07:47 --> 00:07:49 impact would have decimated an area of

00:07:49 --> 00:07:51 thousands of square kilometers creating

00:07:51 --> 00:07:54 an impact crater more than 5 km wide and

00:07:54 --> 00:07:56 triggering major tsunamis seismic

00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 activity volcanic eruptions and climate

00:07:59 --> 00:08:01 change in debris clouds planet Earth

00:08:02 --> 00:08:04 would have entered an impact

00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 winter luckily as more detailed

00:08:06 --> 00:08:08 follow-up observations came in the

00:08:08 --> 00:08:11 possibility of a 2029 impact was

00:08:11 --> 00:08:14 eliminated but at a 32 km flyby it

00:08:14 --> 00:08:16 still would have been a very close

00:08:16 --> 00:08:18 approach with the closest part of the

00:08:18 --> 00:08:20 flyby being clearly visible in the Skies

00:08:20 --> 00:08:23 over Europe Africa and Asia astronomers

00:08:23 --> 00:08:25 say this will be the closest asteroid of

00:08:25 --> 00:08:27 its size in recorded history visible

00:08:27 --> 00:08:30 with the uned eye from all Rural and

00:08:30 --> 00:08:32 darker Suburban locations and clearly

00:08:32 --> 00:08:34 visible with binoculars from most

00:08:34 --> 00:08:37 locations and the story of apus doesn't

00:08:37 --> 00:08:40 end there after the initial calculations

00:08:40 --> 00:08:43 cleared aesus 2029 close encounter there

00:08:43 --> 00:08:45 were still concerns about a possible

00:08:45 --> 00:08:48 gravitational Keyhole just 800 M wide

00:08:48 --> 00:08:49 which if the asteroid passed through it

00:08:49 --> 00:08:51 at the right angle would have resulted

00:08:51 --> 00:08:53 in an impacting trajectory exactly 7

00:08:53 --> 00:08:56 years later on April the 13th

00:08:56 --> 00:08:59 2036 luckily as continued observations

00:08:59 --> 00:09:01 came in further refining the space rocks

00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 orbit the likelihood of an impact

00:09:03 --> 00:09:06 continued to decline turns out there was

00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 the risk of another Earth impacting

00:09:08 --> 00:09:10 trajectory by apus in

00:09:10 --> 00:09:13 2068 so once again further orbital

00:09:13 --> 00:09:15 calculations were made and this two was

00:09:15 --> 00:09:18 eventually ruled out astronomers are now

00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 fairly confident that apus poses no

00:09:20 --> 00:09:22 threat to planet Earth for at least the

00:09:23 --> 00:09:27 next 100 years this is spacetime still

00:09:27 --> 00:09:30 to come China's shenzu spacecraft safely

00:09:30 --> 00:09:32 arrives and docks with the nation's Tong

00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 gong space station and later in the

00:09:34 --> 00:09:36 science report a new study claims more

00:09:36 --> 00:09:39 than 12% of Australian teens now claim

00:09:39 --> 00:09:42 to identify as being gay by pan or

00:09:42 --> 00:09:44 asexual all that and more still to come

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00:10:01 --> 00:10:04 China's shenzu 19 spacecraft is safely

00:10:04 --> 00:10:05 arrived and docked with the nation's

00:10:05 --> 00:10:09 tiangong space station the shinzu 19 was

00:10:09 --> 00:10:11 launched aboard a long march 2f rocket

00:10:11 --> 00:10:13 from the jukan satellite launch Center

00:10:13 --> 00:10:16 in Northwestern China its crew of three

00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 tanut will spend the next 6 months on

00:10:18 --> 00:10:20 station carrying out a range of

00:10:20 --> 00:10:22 experiments including some involving the

00:10:22 --> 00:10:24 manufacturing of bricks made from

00:10:24 --> 00:10:27 compounds imitating Luna soil that's

00:10:27 --> 00:10:29 part of China's ambitious Space Program

00:10:29 --> 00:10:33 to get tyen on the Luna Surface by 2030

00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 the material for the Luna brick test

00:10:35 --> 00:10:37 will be delivered to the tiangong space

00:10:37 --> 00:10:39 station by the chanu 8 cargo ship which

00:10:39 --> 00:10:42 will launch later this month the lunar

00:10:42 --> 00:10:43 brick test will see how this material

00:10:43 --> 00:10:47 fares in extreme radiation micro gravity

00:10:47 --> 00:10:49 and temperature conditions the shenzu 19

00:10:49 --> 00:10:52 crew members will replace three tanut

00:10:52 --> 00:10:54 currently on station who return to Earth

00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 later this week this is spacetime

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00:11:13 --> 00:11:14 and time that to take another brief look

00:11:14 --> 00:11:16 at some of the other stories making news

00:11:16 --> 00:11:18 in science this week with the science

00:11:18 --> 00:11:21 report a new study claims more than 12%

00:11:21 --> 00:11:23 of Australian teens now identify as

00:11:23 --> 00:11:27 being either gay bisexual pansexual or

00:11:27 --> 00:11:29 asexual the findings reported in the

00:11:29 --> 00:11:31 Journal of the American Medical

00:11:31 --> 00:11:34 Association based on a study of

00:11:34 --> 00:11:37 6 students the study also shows that

00:11:37 --> 00:11:40 an additional 3.3% of school kids

00:11:40 --> 00:11:42 consider themselves gender diverse

00:11:42 --> 00:11:44 researchers base their study on

00:11:44 --> 00:11:48 14-year-old teens between 2019 and 2021

00:11:48 --> 00:11:50 the authors say their study shows that

00:11:50 --> 00:11:52 sexuality and gender diversity are

00:11:52 --> 00:11:54 associated with each other and both were

00:11:54 --> 00:11:56 associated with younger age and a

00:11:56 --> 00:11:58 diagnosis of poor mental health and

00:11:58 --> 00:12:00 disability

00:12:00 --> 00:12:03 ability the scourge of microplastics

00:12:03 --> 00:12:05 isn't just contaminating humans it's

00:12:05 --> 00:12:07 affecting all other animals on the

00:12:07 --> 00:12:09 planet as well a new study reported in

00:12:09 --> 00:12:11 the journal plus one has found that

00:12:11 --> 00:12:13 bottlenose dolphins are breathing in

00:12:13 --> 00:12:15 microplastic

00:12:15 --> 00:12:17 contamination researchers reached their

00:12:17 --> 00:12:18 conclusions after collecting air

00:12:18 --> 00:12:20 breathed out through the blo holes of 11

00:12:20 --> 00:12:22 Dolphins at two sites in the Gulf of

00:12:22 --> 00:12:24 Mexico and they found that they all

00:12:24 --> 00:12:27 exhaled microplastics totaling some 54

00:12:27 --> 00:12:29 pieces although the number of

00:12:29 --> 00:12:31 microplastic particles being exhaled

00:12:31 --> 00:12:33 were split almost evenly between two

00:12:33 --> 00:12:35 sites in Florida and Louisiana there

00:12:35 --> 00:12:37 were differences in the Plastics at the

00:12:37 --> 00:12:40 sides particles from dolphins in Florida

00:12:40 --> 00:12:43 were mostly fibers or those in Louisiana

00:12:43 --> 00:12:46 all breathed out microplastic films we

00:12:46 --> 00:12:48 already know through human studies that

00:12:48 --> 00:12:51 microplastic inhalation can cause lung

00:12:51 --> 00:12:53 damage the study's authors say the

00:12:53 --> 00:12:55 Dolphins inhalation of microplastics was

00:12:55 --> 00:12:57 especially concerning in the Louisiana

00:12:57 --> 00:12:58 site where they already have lung

00:12:58 --> 00:13:01 disease es linked to the BP deep water

00:13:01 --> 00:13:03 Horizon oil spill

00:13:03 --> 00:13:05 disaster a new study has shown that

00:13:05 --> 00:13:08 animal life is thriving in deep sea

00:13:08 --> 00:13:10 nooks and crannies deep below the seaf

00:13:10 --> 00:13:12 Flor the discovery reported in the

00:13:12 --> 00:13:14 journal Nature Communications was made

00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 during an exploration of the Eastern

00:13:16 --> 00:13:19 Pacific Rise the Eastern Pacific Rise is

00:13:19 --> 00:13:21 a volcanically active Ridge on the floor

00:13:21 --> 00:13:24 of the Pacific Ocean it's a mid ocean

00:13:24 --> 00:13:26 rise at a Divergent tectonic plate

00:13:26 --> 00:13:28 boundary located along the floor between

00:13:28 --> 00:13:30 the Pacific ific plate to the west from

00:13:30 --> 00:13:32 the north to south North American Plate

00:13:32 --> 00:13:34 the Rivera plate the ccus plate the

00:13:34 --> 00:13:37 nasar plate and the Antarctic plate it

00:13:37 --> 00:13:39 runs south from the Gulf of California

00:13:39 --> 00:13:41 in the sultan sea Basin in Southern

00:13:41 --> 00:13:43 California to the Pacific Antarctic

00:13:43 --> 00:13:45 Ridge near New Zealand it contains a

00:13:45 --> 00:13:47 series of events where the seaf Flor

00:13:47 --> 00:13:49 opens up and seawater meets magma from

00:13:49 --> 00:13:52 beneath the earth's crust the authors

00:13:52 --> 00:13:53 were able to send a remotely operated

00:13:53 --> 00:13:55 vehicle named sub Artisan down to the

00:13:55 --> 00:13:59 Sea Flor the SUV used its robotic arm to

00:13:59 --> 00:14:01 expose sections of the seafloor crust

00:14:01 --> 00:14:03 revealing little cavities full of worms

00:14:03 --> 00:14:05 and snails the scientists say it's

00:14:05 --> 00:14:07 likely lava from creatures living on the

00:14:07 --> 00:14:09 seaf floor drop into these cavities

00:14:09 --> 00:14:12 allowing life to develop

00:14:12 --> 00:14:14 there Google's just released two new

00:14:14 --> 00:14:17 Chromebooks packed with new AI features

00:14:17 --> 00:14:19 however the cancer of work politics in

00:14:19 --> 00:14:22 programming remains a problem with the

00:14:22 --> 00:14:24 details we're joined by technology

00:14:24 --> 00:14:26 editor Alex saharov Roy from Tech advice

00:14:26 --> 00:14:28 start life yeah well the these are

00:14:28 --> 00:14:30 called Chrome plus so you've got two

00:14:30 --> 00:14:32 distinct types of Chromebook one is the

00:14:32 --> 00:14:33 standard Chromebook which is available

00:14:33 --> 00:14:35 at cheaper prices and then you have the

00:14:35 --> 00:14:37 Chromebook plus so these have higher

00:14:37 --> 00:14:40 specs you either have an Intel core I3

00:14:40 --> 00:14:44 or an AMD ryzen 7000 series CPU inside 8

00:14:44 --> 00:14:46 gig or more of memory 128 gig or more of

00:14:46 --> 00:14:49 storage and 1080p full HD or better

00:14:49 --> 00:14:51 displays obviously if you get a higher

00:14:51 --> 00:14:53 specs it will cost more but in Australia

00:14:53 --> 00:14:55 we're looking at about $800 or so do for

00:14:55 --> 00:14:57 one of the new assus models and this is

00:14:57 --> 00:15:00 a Chromebook Plus so inside there you

00:15:00 --> 00:15:02 have uh the ability to get the AI to

00:15:02 --> 00:15:05 read you a web page and you can then ask

00:15:05 --> 00:15:07 various questions about that particular

00:15:07 --> 00:15:09 page and you got live translate so if

00:15:09 --> 00:15:11 you're watching a video on YouTube that

00:15:11 --> 00:15:13 is in a different language it can

00:15:13 --> 00:15:15 instantly translate it with AI to

00:15:15 --> 00:15:17 whatever other language you want for

00:15:17 --> 00:15:19 regular Chromebooks uh which includes

00:15:19 --> 00:15:21 Chromebook plus you have the recorder

00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 app which not only records and and

00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 transcribes what it's hearing it can

00:15:25 --> 00:15:26 give you summaries as well what you

00:15:26 --> 00:15:29 expect from AI these days crumble Plus

00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 also have the appearance effects and

00:15:31 --> 00:15:33 Studio style mics for better calls in

00:15:33 --> 00:15:36 Zoom or teams and right on the taskbar

00:15:36 --> 00:15:38 at the bottom of the screen is the

00:15:38 --> 00:15:41 Gemini AI button which brings up a chat

00:15:41 --> 00:15:43 GPT style text based interface that

00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 allows you to ask any questions and and

00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 speak with the computer so there's

00:15:47 --> 00:15:48 there's plenty more but the Chromebook

00:15:48 --> 00:15:51 and Chromebook plus are an alternative

00:15:51 --> 00:15:53 to Windows devices which are often

00:15:53 --> 00:15:55 blighted by viruses and then Mac devices

00:15:55 --> 00:15:56 which are personally I think are

00:15:56 --> 00:15:59 brilliant but they usually tend to cost

00:15:59 --> 00:16:01 more uh but you do get a total cost of

00:16:01 --> 00:16:03 ownership where you don't have to buy

00:16:03 --> 00:16:05 generally speaking any internet security

00:16:05 --> 00:16:07 software I mean viruses are pretty rare

00:16:07 --> 00:16:09 on Mac they do exist but you have to you

00:16:09 --> 00:16:11 have to willfully type in your password

00:16:11 --> 00:16:12 to you know when being competent to

00:16:12 --> 00:16:14 install something and often that is from

00:16:14 --> 00:16:17 Pirate sites so you get three months of

00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 Gemini advance for free with a regular

00:16:19 --> 00:16:20 Chromebook and with a Chromebook plus

00:16:20 --> 00:16:22 you get a full year of it which is again

00:16:22 --> 00:16:25 their most advanced AI so I have seen

00:16:25 --> 00:16:27 out and about plenty of Macs plenty of

00:16:27 --> 00:16:28 PCS but I'm seeing more and more

00:16:28 --> 00:16:30 Chromebook as well it's become a viable

00:16:30 --> 00:16:33 third alternative which is great for

00:16:33 --> 00:16:35 competition speaking of which we also

00:16:35 --> 00:16:36 have news from Apple yes they have

00:16:36 --> 00:16:40 launched their M4 chip as well as the M4

00:16:40 --> 00:16:42 Pro and the M4 Max which are for more

00:16:42 --> 00:16:44 professional users needing even more

00:16:44 --> 00:16:45 performance we're talking about 1.8

00:16:45 --> 00:16:48 times faster speeds than the original M1

00:16:48 --> 00:16:51 Mac from 2020 and look there's lots of

00:16:51 --> 00:16:53 other improvements inside with the newal

00:16:53 --> 00:16:55 engines but what we have is a new Apple

00:16:55 --> 00:16:58 Mac Mini which is only a little bit

00:16:58 --> 00:17:00 taller than the Apple TV so they managed

00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 to shrink that down in size now there

00:17:02 --> 00:17:04 has been controversy where Apple has put

00:17:05 --> 00:17:07 the power button for the Mac Mini on the

00:17:07 --> 00:17:09 bottom of the unit but it's not right on

00:17:09 --> 00:17:10 the bottom in the middle there is a

00:17:10 --> 00:17:14 cooling grill with fan inside and you

00:17:14 --> 00:17:16 can actually put your finger underneath

00:17:16 --> 00:17:18 to power off the Mac but most people

00:17:18 --> 00:17:19 leave their Macs on and if you got to

00:17:20 --> 00:17:21 shut it down you click on the Apple menu

00:17:21 --> 00:17:23 in the top left hand corner and then

00:17:23 --> 00:17:24 click on shut down I mean the holding

00:17:24 --> 00:17:26 the power button is often something you

00:17:26 --> 00:17:30 do to uh Force to

00:17:30 --> 00:17:32 yeah in case loading something that you

00:17:32 --> 00:17:34 shouldn't be yeah after a few seconds I

00:17:34 --> 00:17:35 mean normally it's not off straight away

00:17:35 --> 00:17:37 I if you push it it'll just go to sleep

00:17:37 --> 00:17:39 but uh yeah that little new Mac Mini is

00:17:39 --> 00:17:41 going to turn heads and then of course

00:17:41 --> 00:17:43 we have the new the regular iMac which

00:17:43 --> 00:17:45 just comes with this Bas level M4 and

00:17:45 --> 00:17:47 then we have the new Macbook Pros which

00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 have the ability to go to these faster

00:17:50 --> 00:17:51 chips and we also have Thunderbolt 5

00:17:51 --> 00:17:54 that's going to deliver 80 gbits per

00:17:54 --> 00:17:56 second and with bandwidth boost it'll

00:17:56 --> 00:17:58 provide up to 120 gbits now normally

00:17:59 --> 00:18:01 you're talking 20 gbits or even 40 I

00:18:01 --> 00:18:03 think with the Thunderbolt 4 so this is

00:18:03 --> 00:18:04 a doubling and it just makes the

00:18:04 --> 00:18:07 transfer of data with ably equipped

00:18:07 --> 00:18:09 Thunderbolt 5 enclosure for your drive

00:18:09 --> 00:18:12 super fast the M4 Max also give you the

00:18:12 --> 00:18:14 fastest version of Apple intelligence

00:18:14 --> 00:18:16 now Apple intelligence has only just

00:18:16 --> 00:18:19 launched last week on iOS

00:18:19 --> 00:18:23 18.1 iPad OS 18.1 and Mac OS 15.1

00:18:23 --> 00:18:25 there'll be many more updates throughout

00:18:25 --> 00:18:27 the rest of 2025 one coming in December

00:18:27 --> 00:18:30 2025 but this peacemeal approach has

00:18:30 --> 00:18:31 annoyed some people they saying that

00:18:31 --> 00:18:33 Apple intelligence isn't as impressive

00:18:33 --> 00:18:35 as chat gut but Apple normally isn't

00:18:35 --> 00:18:36 first to these things they're last they

00:18:36 --> 00:18:38 like to see what everyone else does look

00:18:38 --> 00:18:39 at all the mistakes they've made and

00:18:39 --> 00:18:41 then launch something so the initial

00:18:41 --> 00:18:43 launch of Apple intelligence is a bit

00:18:43 --> 00:18:45 underwhelming but these new computers

00:18:45 --> 00:18:47 will give you the fastest performance my

00:18:47 --> 00:18:48 question however isn't so much which is

00:18:48 --> 00:18:51 the fastest but uh which is providing

00:18:51 --> 00:18:53 the most accurate information yeah well

00:18:53 --> 00:18:55 that is obviously a question all of the

00:18:55 --> 00:18:56 AI providers are talking about how

00:18:57 --> 00:18:58 they're working as hard as they can to

00:18:58 --> 00:19:01 minimize hallucinations it's not just

00:19:01 --> 00:19:02 hallucinations it's garbage being

00:19:02 --> 00:19:04 programmed into the systems yeah well

00:19:04 --> 00:19:06 that's right if if the uh if you try and

00:19:06 --> 00:19:09 do a a search on chat TPT and ask it

00:19:09 --> 00:19:12 about uh Trump's assassination I saw

00:19:12 --> 00:19:13 various AI systems trying to deny it

00:19:14 --> 00:19:16 happened at all so yeah woke AI garbage

00:19:16 --> 00:19:18 in garbage out I mean the other side of

00:19:18 --> 00:19:21 that coin is privacy and apple is

00:19:21 --> 00:19:24 promising the most private AI experience

00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 so there's a big battle that has been

00:19:26 --> 00:19:28 raging over the years about how much

00:19:28 --> 00:19:30 information these companies can slurp up

00:19:30 --> 00:19:32 from you and that battle is not going to

00:19:32 --> 00:19:34 stop anytime soon and it's only going to

00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 intensify as people try to ensure that

00:19:37 --> 00:19:39 their AI systems are not infiltrated by

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