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Solar Secrets, Cosmic Siblings & the Quest for Breathable Exoplanets | Space Nuts: Astronomy...

Solar Curiosities, Stellar Siblings, and the Quest for Sun Missions

In this enlightening episode of Space Nuts , hosts Andrew Dunkley and Professor Fred Watson dive into a plethora of solar-themed questions submitted by their curious audience. From the intriguing arc of the sun across the sky to the search for the sun's long-lost siblings, this episode is packed with cosmic insights that will leave you pondering the mysteries of our solar system.

Episode Highlights:

- The Sun's Arc: Andrew kicks off the episode with a question about the sun's arc as observed from the French Alps. Fred explains the celestial mechanics behind this phenomenon, illustrating how our perspective from Earth creates the illusion of an arc due to the spherical nature of the celestial sphere.

- Searching for Solar Siblings: Ernie's inquiry about the sun's siblings leads to a fascinating discussion on galactic archaeology. The hosts explore ongoing research aimed at identifying stars with similar chemical compositions to the sun, potentially revealing our sun's stellar family tree.

- Close Encounters with the Sun: Mark's question about missions to the sun sparks an exploration of the Parker Solar Probe, which has been gathering invaluable data by flying close to the sun. Andrew and Fred discuss the probe's findings and the various other missions dedicated to studying our star.

- Exoplanetary Possibilities: Martin shares his sci-fi aspirations and questions the potential for breathable atmospheres on exoplanets. The hosts reflect on recent discoveries of Earth-sized exoplanets and the challenges of confirming their atmospheres, while also encouraging Martin's creative writing endeavors.


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00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 Hello again. Thank you for joining us on

00:00:02 --> 00:00:05 Space Nuts. This is our weekly Q&A

00:00:05 --> 00:00:07 edition where we take questions from the

00:00:07 --> 00:00:09 audience. We go and find someone who can

00:00:09 --> 00:00:11 tell us the answer and then we pretend

00:00:11 --> 00:00:13 we're doing it. Um, my name's Andrew

00:00:13 --> 00:00:16 Dunley, your host. Fred's Fred's face

00:00:16 --> 00:00:18 went, "Oh, we don't." [laughter]

00:00:18 --> 00:00:21 Uh, coming up on this episode, uh, we've

00:00:21 --> 00:00:23 got a lot of, uh, solar questions. We've

00:00:23 --> 00:00:25 got a question from Andrew about the

00:00:25 --> 00:00:27 sun's arc. Ernie wants to know about the

00:00:27 --> 00:00:28 sun's siblings and Mark wants to know

00:00:28 --> 00:00:31 about missions to the sun. You go, Mark.

00:00:31 --> 00:00:32 I'm not setting foot on it. It's hot

00:00:32 --> 00:00:35 enough here already. And we're going to

00:00:35 --> 00:00:36 finish off with a question about

00:00:36 --> 00:00:38 Earthlike planets. That's all coming up

00:00:38 --> 00:00:41 on this episode of Space Nuts.

00:00:41 --> 00:00:46 >> 15 seconds. Guidance is internal. 10 9g

00:00:46 --> 00:00:48 Ignition sequence start.

00:00:48 --> 00:00:49 >> Space nuts.

00:00:49 --> 00:00:51 >> 5 4 3 2

00:00:51 --> 00:00:53 >> 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1

00:00:53 --> 00:00:56 >> Space Nuts. Astronauts report. It feels

00:00:56 --> 00:00:57 good.

00:00:57 --> 00:00:59 >> Back again for more. His name is

00:00:59 --> 00:01:01 Professor Fred Watson, astronomer at

00:01:01 --> 00:01:03 large. Hello, Fred.

00:01:03 --> 00:01:05 >> Hello. Hello, Andrew. Um, fancy seeing

00:01:05 --> 00:01:06 you here.

00:01:06 --> 00:01:09 >> Yes, it's quite unusual. Quite unusual.

00:01:09 --> 00:01:11 And we're all decked out in blue today.

00:01:11 --> 00:01:12 You've got the gun barrel blue. I've got

00:01:12 --> 00:01:15 the sky blue of New South Wales on.

00:01:15 --> 00:01:18 >> That's the um official sporting color of

00:01:18 --> 00:01:19 my state.

00:01:19 --> 00:01:20 >> I didn't know that.

00:01:20 --> 00:01:21 >> Yeah. Yeah.

00:01:21 --> 00:01:22 >> Didn't even know there was

00:01:22 --> 00:01:26 >> sky blue. Yeah. Oh, look. Um, the the

00:01:26 --> 00:01:28 the official Australian sporting colors

00:01:28 --> 00:01:29 are green and gold.

00:01:29 --> 00:01:30 >> Green and gold. That's right.

00:01:30 --> 00:01:32 >> But that that wasn't actually uh

00:01:32 --> 00:01:35 official until the 80s. Before that,

00:01:35 --> 00:01:37 they just used to wear a pair of thongs

00:01:37 --> 00:01:39 and a cut off jeans and go to the

00:01:39 --> 00:01:42 Olympics, I think.

00:01:42 --> 00:01:43 >> She'll be right.

00:01:43 --> 00:01:47 >> Yeah, mate. No worries. Yes. Um, we got

00:01:47 --> 00:01:49 a bunch of questions to deal with, so we

00:01:49 --> 00:01:51 might as well hit the ground running in

00:01:51 --> 00:01:53 our thongs. I know there's some people

00:01:53 --> 00:01:55 laughing at that because thong means

00:01:55 --> 00:01:56 something else in other countries, but

00:01:56 --> 00:01:58 it does. That's right.

00:01:58 --> 00:02:00 >> It's it's a pair of flip-flops or

00:02:00 --> 00:02:01 jandles or whatever you call them,

00:02:01 --> 00:02:03 wherever you're from. Uh, first question

00:02:04 --> 00:02:05 comes from Andrew. It's about the Sun's

00:02:06 --> 00:02:07 Ark. I'm sitting here in the French Alps

00:02:08 --> 00:02:10 on Boxing Day. You lucky duck. uh

00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 slightly hung over thanks to uh an

00:02:13 --> 00:02:17 excess of a prey ski uh last night and

00:02:17 --> 00:02:19 watching the sun trace an arc across the

00:02:19 --> 00:02:21 sky measured from mountain peak to

00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 mountain peak. But why an arc the shape

00:02:25 --> 00:02:27 of which varies uh by the time of year

00:02:27 --> 00:02:31 given the earth itself is rotating uh on

00:02:31 --> 00:02:34 only one axis. Uh, I know the Earth's uh

00:02:34 --> 00:02:37 tilted from um from the vertical, but

00:02:37 --> 00:02:41 how does that explain the arc uh with

00:02:41 --> 00:02:42 only one axis of rotation? Shouldn't it

00:02:42 --> 00:02:44 be a straight line? That comes from

00:02:44 --> 00:02:46 Andrew Jones. Hope you had a nice

00:02:46 --> 00:02:47 Christmas, Andrew. Sounds like it. What

00:02:47 --> 00:02:49 a what a horrible place to be. The

00:02:49 --> 00:02:50 French Alps for Christmas.

00:02:50 --> 00:02:52 >> Oh, yeah. Sounds great, doesn't it?

00:02:52 --> 00:02:54 >> Yeah. But he brings up an interesting

00:02:54 --> 00:02:56 point. Uh sitting there sipping on

00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 whatever it is he was drinking and uh

00:02:58 --> 00:03:00 and and watching the sun and going,

00:03:00 --> 00:03:03 "Hang on a minute. What's going on here?

00:03:04 --> 00:03:07 There's an arc and it's not Noah's.

00:03:07 --> 00:03:09 It's not. That's right. Uh it's a

00:03:09 --> 00:03:11 different sort of arc. Uh because it's

00:03:11 --> 00:03:12 spelled differently. It's got a C

00:03:12 --> 00:03:15 instead of a K. [laughter]

00:03:15 --> 00:03:21 [snorts] Uh it uh and in fact so so uh

00:03:21 --> 00:03:24 you know Andrew's question is uh with

00:03:24 --> 00:03:26 only one axis of rotation shouldn't it

00:03:26 --> 00:03:28 be a straight line? And the answer is it

00:03:28 --> 00:03:30 is a straight line.

00:03:30 --> 00:03:32 >> Yeah. Uh but it's a straight line on a

00:03:32 --> 00:03:36 sphere. Uh because we are our vantage

00:03:36 --> 00:03:40 point uh from Earth. Uh we look out into

00:03:40 --> 00:03:42 space. We imagine something called the

00:03:42 --> 00:03:45 celestial sphere. It's a great way of uh

00:03:45 --> 00:03:47 you know working out the way things move

00:03:47 --> 00:03:49 in space and how the motion of the sun

00:03:49 --> 00:03:51 and planets all fits together. You what

00:03:52 --> 00:03:54 you imagine is a sphere of infinite

00:03:54 --> 00:03:56 dimensions and we're sitting at the

00:03:56 --> 00:03:58 middle of it. We only see half of it

00:03:58 --> 00:03:59 because the other half is below the

00:04:00 --> 00:04:02 horizon. It's still there. The celestial

00:04:02 --> 00:04:05 sphere goes on below the earth, this

00:04:05 --> 00:04:09 hypothesized sphere. Um but um it's very

00:04:09 --> 00:04:12 useful uh a useful device for

00:04:12 --> 00:04:13 understanding how things move in the

00:04:14 --> 00:04:17 sky. And if you imagine yourself uh

00:04:17 --> 00:04:20 sitting in the French Alps uh with the

00:04:20 --> 00:04:24 celestial sphere above you uh you uh

00:04:24 --> 00:04:25 would certainly in the northern

00:04:25 --> 00:04:28 hemisphere be able to see uh the thing

00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 that we call the north pole star polar

00:04:30 --> 00:04:34 star Polaris. Uh the pole star faint

00:04:34 --> 00:04:36 star that um I nearly always look for

00:04:36 --> 00:04:38 whenever I'm in the northern hemisphere

00:04:38 --> 00:04:40 just to reconnect with it. It's at the

00:04:40 --> 00:04:43 end of the the little bear's tail. uh if

00:04:43 --> 00:04:45 you know your northern constellations

00:04:45 --> 00:04:47 but that

00:04:47 --> 00:04:51 would come with us sometime.

00:04:51 --> 00:04:52 >> Yeah, they they're great. The northern

00:04:52 --> 00:04:55 constellations of they've got great

00:04:55 --> 00:04:57 charm. Anyway, that's another story. So,

00:04:57 --> 00:04:59 um that is the point about which the

00:04:59 --> 00:05:04 whole celestial sphere seems to rotate.

00:05:04 --> 00:05:07 And so, uh, the height of the pole star

00:05:07 --> 00:05:10 above your horizon, uh, is the same as

00:05:10 --> 00:05:14 your latitude. So, if you're at latitude

00:05:14 --> 00:05:17 French Alps is probably 45 or

00:05:18 --> 00:05:19 thereabouts, maybe a bit more than that,

00:05:19 --> 00:05:22 45, uh, it means your pole star is going

00:05:22 --> 00:05:24 to be 45 degrees above the horizon. And

00:05:24 --> 00:05:28 this entire sphere rotates around that

00:05:28 --> 00:05:32 point. And so uh that's why on on a

00:05:32 --> 00:05:34 sphere the sun's motion is a straight

00:05:34 --> 00:05:36 line. It goes from the east eastern side

00:05:36 --> 00:05:38 of the sky depends on the time of year

00:05:38 --> 00:05:40 as to exactly where it rises and sets.

00:05:40 --> 00:05:43 Uh but it sets on the western side. And

00:05:43 --> 00:05:47 so um uh what looks like an arc to you

00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 is really a straight line bent by the

00:05:50 --> 00:05:54 celestial sphere. this apparent uh you

00:05:54 --> 00:05:57 know it's it's a just a great way of

00:05:57 --> 00:05:59 imagining the sky because it doesn't you

00:05:59 --> 00:06:00 don't have to worry about the distances

00:06:00 --> 00:06:02 of anything. You're just imagining

00:06:02 --> 00:06:04 everything projected onto this infinite

00:06:04 --> 00:06:07 sphere. And when you do that as the

00:06:07 --> 00:06:09 earth's rotating the sun rises in

00:06:09 --> 00:06:11 towards the east and sets towards the

00:06:11 --> 00:06:16 west. Um and uh it follows basically an

00:06:16 --> 00:06:19 arc as we see it from our position. But

00:06:19 --> 00:06:21 in terms of the sphere itself, it's just

00:06:21 --> 00:06:23 going from one side to the other in a

00:06:23 --> 00:06:24 straight line.

00:06:24 --> 00:06:26 >> There you go. Sounds like putting in

00:06:26 --> 00:06:29 golf. Like every putt they say every

00:06:29 --> 00:06:32 putt's a straight putt except

00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 that the um the green isn't dead flat

00:06:35 --> 00:06:37 and straight, so the ball will move

00:06:37 --> 00:06:38 accordingly.

00:06:38 --> 00:06:41 >> Yes, that's right. Yeah. In fact, that's

00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 um that's that almost puts you into a

00:06:44 --> 00:06:47 different uh regime because that's

00:06:47 --> 00:06:49 effectively what geodessics are, which

00:06:49 --> 00:06:50 are

00:06:50 --> 00:06:53 >> uh the way light behaves uh in general

00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 relativity. Uh so light travels what it

00:06:56 --> 00:06:58 in what it thinks is a straight line,

00:06:58 --> 00:07:00 but it's going through different

00:07:00 --> 00:07:03 gravitational fields and gravitational

00:07:03 --> 00:07:05 wells. And so like you know like your

00:07:05 --> 00:07:08 your golf ball when you're put putting

00:07:08 --> 00:07:11 it uh it it's it it's moving around.

00:07:11 --> 00:07:13 It's wandering around.

00:07:13 --> 00:07:16 >> Yeah. Uh we we have a quirk at um do

00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 golf club where um if you want to figure

00:07:19 --> 00:07:21 out where the putt goes work out which

00:07:21 --> 00:07:22 direction the river is.

00:07:22 --> 00:07:23 >> Yes.

00:07:23 --> 00:07:26 >> They they always fall towards the river.

00:07:26 --> 00:07:28 >> Always remember Andrew that five irons

00:07:28 --> 00:07:29 don't flow.

00:07:29 --> 00:07:31 >> They do not. It's a good book that I

00:07:32 --> 00:07:33 don't know who wrote it, but it's a

00:07:33 --> 00:07:34 ripper.

00:07:34 --> 00:07:35 >> I should read this.

00:07:35 --> 00:07:36 >> It's a ripper.

00:07:36 --> 00:07:38 >> Well, it's got swearing in it. Don't

00:07:38 --> 00:07:39 know how that happened.

00:07:39 --> 00:07:42 >> Yeah. Gosh. Disgraceful. Disgraceful.

00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 And by the way, the French Alps are at

00:07:44 --> 00:07:45 455

00:07:45 --> 00:07:47 degrees north.

00:07:47 --> 00:07:48 >> So, you did very well.

00:07:48 --> 00:07:49 >> Yeah.

00:07:49 --> 00:07:51 >> And 6.85

00:07:51 --> 00:07:54 uh 65 degrees east.

00:07:54 --> 00:07:54 >> That's right.

00:07:54 --> 00:07:57 >> Yeah. Uh, thank you for the question,

00:07:57 --> 00:08:00 Andrew. Great to hear from you. Hope you

00:08:00 --> 00:08:03 survived the u the French Alps um

00:08:03 --> 00:08:06 adventure. Uh our next question comes

00:08:06 --> 00:08:10 from a a new contributor. Hello Ernie.

00:08:10 --> 00:08:12 >> Hello Andrew and Fred. My name is Ernie

00:08:12 --> 00:08:14 and I'm reaching out to you from a small

00:08:14 --> 00:08:16 town near Buffalo, New York. I'm a

00:08:16 --> 00:08:18 longtime listener and this is the first

00:08:18 --> 00:08:21 time I'm submitting a question. In a

00:08:21 --> 00:08:23 recent episode, a listener asked if

00:08:24 --> 00:08:26 astronomers have ever identified the

00:08:26 --> 00:08:29 star or stars that went supernova,

00:08:29 --> 00:08:32 seating the nebula our sun formed in

00:08:32 --> 00:08:34 with heavy elements. This got me to

00:08:34 --> 00:08:37 thinking, stars typically form in

00:08:37 --> 00:08:41 clusters. And I assume our sun isn't any

00:08:41 --> 00:08:45 different. Has there ever been or is

00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 there any active research that is

00:08:48 --> 00:08:51 looking for any of the son's siblings?

00:08:51 --> 00:08:54 Thank you so much um for doing this

00:08:54 --> 00:08:56 podcast. Really enjoy it. Always look

00:08:56 --> 00:08:59 forward when new episodes drop. Wishing

00:08:59 --> 00:09:02 you the best for the holidays. Thank

00:09:02 --> 00:09:03 you, Ernie. Great to hear from you, a

00:09:04 --> 00:09:06 first time callerina. And uh great

00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 question, too. Great question. Sorry to

00:09:08 --> 00:09:10 hear about the Buffalo Bills. I don't

00:09:10 --> 00:09:12 know if you're into the uh American

00:09:12 --> 00:09:16 football um Ernie, but um we visited

00:09:16 --> 00:09:19 Buffalo um late last year and they were

00:09:19 --> 00:09:21 very very hopeful that the the Bills

00:09:21 --> 00:09:23 would come through, but they've been

00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 knocked out in the playoffs. So, um very

00:09:25 --> 00:09:27 unfortunate, but maybe maybe next year.

00:09:27 --> 00:09:29 They're certainly starting to look like

00:09:29 --> 00:09:33 a pretty solid outfit. So, um yeah, any

00:09:33 --> 00:09:35 work going into finding the Sun's

00:09:35 --> 00:09:36 siblings? Now, I remember us talking

00:09:36 --> 00:09:40 some time back about the possibility

00:09:40 --> 00:09:43 that the son had a twin [clears throat]

00:09:43 --> 00:09:45 >> and they got separated at birth and they

00:09:45 --> 00:09:46 can't find each other, but they're

00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 they're going through the archives to

00:09:48 --> 00:09:50 see if there's any family history that

00:09:50 --> 00:09:55 can connect them. Um that Yeah, but the

00:09:55 --> 00:09:57 the sun would have been part of um I I

00:09:57 --> 00:10:00 imagine a whole bunch of stars that were

00:10:00 --> 00:10:04 born in that um that um supernova

00:10:04 --> 00:10:05 situation. Is that what he was talking

00:10:05 --> 00:10:06 about?

00:10:06 --> 00:10:09 >> Well, that's part of the issue. The the

00:10:09 --> 00:10:12 fact that the you know the the gas cloud

00:10:12 --> 00:10:15 in which the sun and the rest of the

00:10:15 --> 00:10:17 cluster that was formed at the same time

00:10:17 --> 00:10:21 as the sun um that that was uh seeded by

00:10:21 --> 00:10:24 gases from a supernova explosion which

00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 we have no knowledge of but we you know

00:10:26 --> 00:10:28 it's just the background interstellar

00:10:28 --> 00:10:31 medium is enriched by the elements that

00:10:31 --> 00:10:33 come from a supernova explosion. But um

00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 no Ernie's question is on the money and

00:10:36 --> 00:10:40 the answer is yes. Uh that's um

00:10:40 --> 00:10:43 to try and find the sun's siblings is

00:10:43 --> 00:10:46 actually uh ongoing research and it's

00:10:46 --> 00:10:48 part of the subject that we usually call

00:10:48 --> 00:10:50 galactic archaeology. is looking at the

00:10:50 --> 00:10:54 way our galaxy has evolved uh by

00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 studying in detail the chemical

00:10:57 --> 00:11:00 composition of the stars within uh the

00:11:00 --> 00:11:02 sun's neighborhood within a few thousand

00:11:02 --> 00:11:03 light years. I was involved with all

00:11:04 --> 00:11:05 that with the rave project a few years

00:11:05 --> 00:11:09 ago. And so one of the uh not the holy

00:11:09 --> 00:11:10 grails of that but certainly one of the

00:11:10 --> 00:11:13 interesting aspects is to find stars

00:11:13 --> 00:11:17 that have identical chemical mixes to

00:11:17 --> 00:11:21 the sun. Uh and um if you can do that,

00:11:21 --> 00:11:24 if you can find them, uh there's a good

00:11:24 --> 00:11:26 chance that they were born from the same

00:11:26 --> 00:11:29 dust cloud as the sun was. Uh and so

00:11:29 --> 00:11:32 they might very well be solar siblings.

00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 Um it may even be possible that, you

00:11:35 --> 00:11:37 know, we know that the sun's four four

00:11:37 --> 00:11:39 and a half billion years old, about 4.6

00:11:39 --> 00:11:43 4.7 billion years old. Um if you could

00:11:43 --> 00:11:46 look at the motion of stars that have

00:11:46 --> 00:11:49 the identical uh constituents to the sun

00:11:49 --> 00:11:51 and you will be able to certainly me

00:11:51 --> 00:11:54 measure their velocities quite easily

00:11:54 --> 00:11:57 then you might be able to almost rewind

00:11:57 --> 00:11:59 back to a time uh when you could prove

00:11:59 --> 00:12:01 that they were all in the same place at

00:12:01 --> 00:12:04 the same time.

00:12:04 --> 00:12:06 >> Okay. Yeah. All right. Um

00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 >> so so the answer is yes. We are there is

00:12:09 --> 00:12:11 interest there is certainly research on

00:12:11 --> 00:12:13 all that and yes I had a couple of weeks

00:12:13 --> 00:12:15 in Buffalo once I was a guest lecturer

00:12:15 --> 00:12:17 at the Canius College there and it's

00:12:17 --> 00:12:19 very cold

00:12:19 --> 00:12:21 >> uh wasn't cold while we were there I

00:12:21 --> 00:12:23 mean it's it's a stones throw from

00:12:23 --> 00:12:25 Niagara Falls which is

00:12:25 --> 00:12:27 >> yeah like you could almost walk it

00:12:27 --> 00:12:29 >> they were pretty icy when we were there.

00:12:29 --> 00:12:31 >> Yeah. Um, but I I really enjoyed

00:12:32 --> 00:12:33 spending some time there and and

00:12:33 --> 00:12:35 learning like they they they had a big

00:12:35 --> 00:12:37 big exhibition on while we were there

00:12:37 --> 00:12:40 about the um one of the great canals

00:12:40 --> 00:12:44 that was built 150 odd years ago now I

00:12:44 --> 00:12:47 think. Um and and how it changed the

00:12:48 --> 00:12:49 entire region

00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 >> forever um in terms of trade and

00:12:51 --> 00:12:55 movement of materials and uh fascinating

00:12:55 --> 00:12:58 place really quite fascinating. Um,

00:12:58 --> 00:13:01 yeah. I suppose the the the problem with

00:13:01 --> 00:13:03 trying to find the sun's siblings is is

00:13:03 --> 00:13:05 the amount of time that's passed. It's

00:13:05 --> 00:13:06 not like you're looking back through

00:13:06 --> 00:13:08 your family tree a couple of

00:13:08 --> 00:13:10 generations, which we're talking

00:13:10 --> 00:13:13 billions of years of movement.

00:13:13 --> 00:13:15 >> That's right. Yes. But but as I said,

00:13:15 --> 00:13:17 you you know, the way you identify them

00:13:17 --> 00:13:20 is not because they're close or anything

00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 like that. It's by their chemical

00:13:22 --> 00:13:23 composition.

00:13:23 --> 00:13:28 uh which we can do out to many several

00:13:28 --> 00:13:30 thousands light years depending how how

00:13:30 --> 00:13:33 precise you want it to be. Um in fact

00:13:33 --> 00:13:34 there's an instrument on the Anglo

00:13:34 --> 00:13:35 Australian telescope which is called

00:13:35 --> 00:13:38 Hermes uh which is designed exactly for

00:13:38 --> 00:13:41 doing that job. It looks at very limited

00:13:41 --> 00:13:44 areas uh regions of the spectrum of

00:13:44 --> 00:13:47 stars uh to look for [clears throat]

00:13:47 --> 00:13:49 exactly the amount of chemicals that

00:13:49 --> 00:13:51 that are in those atmospheres of those

00:13:51 --> 00:13:53 stars. And that's the kind of instrument

00:13:53 --> 00:13:55 that you use to try and find the sun

00:13:55 --> 00:13:57 siblings. What I haven't said is whether

00:13:57 --> 00:13:59 there's been any success on that.

00:13:59 --> 00:14:00 >> I was bad to ask.

00:14:00 --> 00:14:01 >> Yeah. [laughter]

00:14:01 --> 00:14:04 And um uh I can't remember the answer. I

00:14:04 --> 00:14:06 I mean there are certainly stars which

00:14:06 --> 00:14:08 have got very similar chemical

00:14:08 --> 00:14:12 composition and ages to the sun. Uh, I'm

00:14:12 --> 00:14:14 not sure just how near we are to to

00:14:14 --> 00:14:15 being able to identify them as

00:14:15 --> 00:14:17 definitely coming from the same gas

00:14:18 --> 00:14:20 cloud and being born in the same cluster

00:14:20 --> 00:14:21 as the sun was.

00:14:21 --> 00:14:24 >> Well, according to a quick search I've

00:14:24 --> 00:14:28 just done, and this is an AI response,

00:14:28 --> 00:14:29 uh, yes, astronomers have identified

00:14:29 --> 00:14:31 several candidates. Yeah.

00:14:31 --> 00:14:33 >> The solar siblings, stars formed from

00:14:33 --> 00:14:36 the same gas cloud as our sun 4.5

00:14:36 --> 00:14:38 billion years ago, but none are

00:14:38 --> 00:14:42 definitely confirmed. There you go.

00:14:42 --> 00:14:45 >> Um they maybe they don't want to be

00:14:45 --> 00:14:47 found. Maybe maybe our our son was, you

00:14:48 --> 00:14:49 know, the black sheep of the family and

00:14:49 --> 00:14:51 they all went, "No, we're out of here.

00:14:51 --> 00:14:52 We know what's going to happen around

00:14:52 --> 00:14:55 this place. It's going to fall planets

00:14:55 --> 00:14:56 and then where will we be?" And then

00:14:56 --> 00:14:58 there'll be humans and then

00:14:58 --> 00:14:59 >> Yes, that's right. Exactly.

00:14:59 --> 00:15:01 >> You know, they'll want us they'll want

00:15:01 --> 00:15:03 us to pay them money or something. Yeah.

00:15:03 --> 00:15:05 I don't know. Um but it was a great

00:15:05 --> 00:15:06 question, Ernie. Thanks for sending it

00:15:06 --> 00:15:09 in and please do so again. This is Space

00:15:09 --> 00:15:12 Nuts with Andrew Dunley and Professor

00:15:12 --> 00:15:15 Fred Watson.

00:15:15 --> 00:15:17 >> Hey, that's one of the better sims.

00:15:17 --> 00:15:18 Believe me, we've had a couple of

00:15:18 --> 00:15:20 cardiac [music] arrest down here too,

00:15:20 --> 00:15:20 Pete.

00:15:20 --> 00:15:23 >> There weren't any time for that up here.

00:15:23 --> 00:15:24 >> Space nuts.

00:15:24 --> 00:15:27 >> I love that one. No time for a cardiac

00:15:27 --> 00:15:32 arrest. Uh let's uh carry on to our next

00:15:32 --> 00:15:34 question that comes from Mark. It's

00:15:34 --> 00:15:36 another story about this uh question

00:15:36 --> 00:15:38 about the sun. Hi Andrew and Fred. Are

00:15:38 --> 00:15:40 there any plans to send a spacecraft to

00:15:40 --> 00:15:42 the sun? And I mean up close and

00:15:42 --> 00:15:45 personal. Uh the data they could get

00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 would be invaluable and could really

00:15:47 --> 00:15:50 tighten up uh some loose ends on what we

00:15:50 --> 00:15:52 think we know. Uh keep up the great

00:15:52 --> 00:15:56 work. Uh that's Mark from Sussex. Sussex

00:15:56 --> 00:15:58 in England. I assume England. Uh I'm

00:15:58 --> 00:16:00 pretty sure that'd be right.

00:16:00 --> 00:16:02 >> So you s I used to live in Sussex as

00:16:02 --> 00:16:03 well.

00:16:03 --> 00:16:04 >> Yes. Yeah. I think we mentioned that a

00:16:04 --> 00:16:06 week or two ago. So we've had a few

00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 >> where the royals from Sussex of late

00:16:08 --> 00:16:10 >> the the Royal Greenwich Observatory used

00:16:10 --> 00:16:13 to be a place called Hmansu. Yeah.

00:16:13 --> 00:16:15 [clears throat and cough] Not far from

00:16:15 --> 00:16:17 where William the Conqueror landed in

00:16:17 --> 00:16:18 1066.

00:16:18 --> 00:16:19 >> Okay.

00:16:19 --> 00:16:22 >> It was all very historic place. Um and

00:16:22 --> 00:16:23 the Royal Observatory was actually

00:16:23 --> 00:16:25 >> he defeated he did he defeated King

00:16:25 --> 00:16:27 >> Henry was it?

00:16:27 --> 00:16:28 >> Harold. Harold. I knew it started with

00:16:28 --> 00:16:29 an H.

00:16:29 --> 00:16:34 >> Yeah. H um so yeah look I I I I know

00:16:34 --> 00:16:37 there are probes that are um gathering

00:16:37 --> 00:16:39 information about the sun all the time

00:16:39 --> 00:16:41 and in fact we had a recent probe that's

00:16:41 --> 00:16:43 name escapes me that actually touched

00:16:43 --> 00:16:45 the sun which was uh a pretty

00:16:45 --> 00:16:47 extraordinary thing and

00:16:47 --> 00:16:49 >> in fact that's the one that um that

00:16:49 --> 00:16:52 really Mark is asking about uh uh are

00:16:52 --> 00:16:54 there any plans to sp send a spacecraft

00:16:54 --> 00:16:56 to the sun uh and I mean up close and

00:16:56 --> 00:16:59 personal it is already there Uh it's

00:16:59 --> 00:17:02 called the Parker Solar Probe. Uh it's

00:17:02 --> 00:17:04 um flown through the inner or the outer

00:17:04 --> 00:17:08 corona of the sun uh experiencing those

00:17:08 --> 00:17:09 very high temperatures. It's got a heat

00:17:09 --> 00:17:12 shield. It's in a or an orbit that is

00:17:12 --> 00:17:16 highly elliptical, very elongated. So

00:17:16 --> 00:17:17 [clears throat] it it spends some of its

00:17:17 --> 00:17:20 time close to the sun and some of its

00:17:20 --> 00:17:22 time quite a long way away. I'm not

00:17:22 --> 00:17:23 actually sure whether it is still

00:17:24 --> 00:17:27 active. uh but what it's done is it has

00:17:27 --> 00:17:31 enhanced our understanding of the uh of

00:17:31 --> 00:17:34 the way the corona is heated. The sun's

00:17:34 --> 00:17:37 corona is at so several tens of millions

00:17:37 --> 00:17:41 of degrees uh and the surface of the sun

00:17:41 --> 00:17:43 the photosphere this bit that we see is

00:17:43 --> 00:17:45 about 5 a half thousand degrees. How

00:17:45 --> 00:17:48 does the outer atmosphere get so hot

00:17:48 --> 00:17:49 when you've got something relatively

00:17:49 --> 00:17:53 cool inside? And the Parker Solar Probe

00:17:53 --> 00:17:55 has revealed that it's almost certainly

00:17:55 --> 00:17:57 magnetism that does that, the

00:17:57 --> 00:17:59 transportation of energy via magnetic

00:17:59 --> 00:18:01 fields. You're about to tell me whether

00:18:01 --> 00:18:02 it's still going or not.

00:18:02 --> 00:18:05 >> It is. It is actually uh the uh is fully

00:18:06 --> 00:18:07 active. It's healthy. It's operating

00:18:08 --> 00:18:12 normally as at early 2026. It's done 26

00:18:12 --> 00:18:14 close approach

00:18:14 --> 00:18:18 >> uh approaches to the sun. Um, and that

00:18:18 --> 00:18:21 was up to December of of last year. And

00:18:21 --> 00:18:23 it uh will continue to orbit the sun.

00:18:23 --> 00:18:25 It'll set speed records while it's doing

00:18:25 --> 00:18:27 it. Uh, it's it's been doing some

00:18:27 --> 00:18:29 extraordinary things. Uh, what I find

00:18:30 --> 00:18:31 extraordinary is that it can survive

00:18:31 --> 00:18:33 temperatures around 2 and a half

00:18:33 --> 00:18:36 thousand degrees Fahrenheit. That's um

00:18:36 --> 00:18:39 that's that's mighty warm.

00:18:39 --> 00:18:41 >> Yep. With a with a clever cleverly

00:18:41 --> 00:18:43 designed heat shield. I think that's

00:18:43 --> 00:18:46 whath keeps the spacecraft cool and lets

00:18:46 --> 00:18:48 it continue its work. It's a very

00:18:48 --> 00:18:50 successful mission.

00:18:50 --> 00:18:52 >> Are there any other probes working out

00:18:52 --> 00:18:55 there? I mean, there are observer

00:18:55 --> 00:18:56 probes. I believe they're not designed

00:18:56 --> 00:18:59 to go in and out of the sun's corona,

00:18:59 --> 00:19:01 but they're they're sort of keeping a

00:19:01 --> 00:19:03 close eye on it.

00:19:03 --> 00:19:05 >> Yeah, that's right. There's uh so so the

00:19:05 --> 00:19:08 sun's observed from a safer distance uh

00:19:08 --> 00:19:10 up close and personal uh compared with

00:19:10 --> 00:19:12 where we are on Earth. uh there's a

00:19:12 --> 00:19:15 there's a flatilla of uh of

00:19:15 --> 00:19:17 observatories looking at the various

00:19:17 --> 00:19:20 aspects of the sun. We also now have um

00:19:20 --> 00:19:23 a very large groundbased telescope that

00:19:23 --> 00:19:26 is set providing the most amazing images

00:19:26 --> 00:19:28 of the sun's photosphere. That's the the

00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 visible sphere of the sun. Uh it's the

00:19:31 --> 00:19:34 Daniel K. Anui solar telescope. It's on

00:19:34 --> 00:19:38 top of Halakala on the island of Maui uh

00:19:38 --> 00:19:41 in the Hawaiian islands. Money and I got

00:19:42 --> 00:19:43 married in front of it.

00:19:43 --> 00:19:47 >> Yeah, I remember. Yeah. Um they have

00:19:47 --> 00:19:48 great names for stuff in Hawaii, don't

00:19:48 --> 00:19:50 they?

00:19:50 --> 00:19:51 >> Yeah, they do.

00:19:51 --> 00:19:52 >> They do.

00:19:52 --> 00:19:54 >> Just rolls off the tongue, that one. Uh

00:19:54 --> 00:19:57 there are plenty of probes actually um

00:19:57 --> 00:19:59 Mark that are that are wandering around

00:19:59 --> 00:20:01 the sun. There's the Solar Orbiter,

00:20:01 --> 00:20:05 which is an ISSa NASA mission um taking

00:20:05 --> 00:20:07 high resolution imagery and and

00:20:07 --> 00:20:09 gathering data about the sun. There's

00:20:09 --> 00:20:11 another one that was launched in 2023

00:20:12 --> 00:20:14 uh an Indian mission uh which is

00:20:14 --> 00:20:17 dedicated to observing the solar corona

00:20:17 --> 00:20:22 and it's the Adita L1 mission and

00:20:22 --> 00:20:26 there's a there's a a whole fleet of uh

00:20:26 --> 00:20:28 probes that are that are monitoring the

00:20:28 --> 00:20:30 solar winds. So the Solar Dynamics

00:20:30 --> 00:20:33 Observatory SOHO that's a famous one. Uh

00:20:33 --> 00:20:36 the STEREO mission because there are

00:20:36 --> 00:20:37 twin satellites doing that. I think we

00:20:37 --> 00:20:40 talked about that one. Uh Hinade, which

00:20:40 --> 00:20:43 is a a JAXA mission. Uh the GO solar

00:20:43 --> 00:20:45 ultraviolet imager and the advanced

00:20:45 --> 00:20:49 composition explorer or ACE uh which is

00:20:49 --> 00:20:51 looking at the solar winds which have um

00:20:51 --> 00:20:54 been very busy of late. We've seen some

00:20:54 --> 00:20:56 incredible activity. The sun's sort of

00:20:56 --> 00:20:59 reaching the end of its most active

00:20:59 --> 00:21:02 phase, isn't it Fred? Yeah, it's it's

00:21:02 --> 00:21:04 sort of still at solar maximum, but it

00:21:04 --> 00:21:08 gradually uh dies away to solar minimum.

00:21:08 --> 00:21:10 >> Yeah. And from what I understand, you've

00:21:10 --> 00:21:12 you've really only got a short period of

00:21:12 --> 00:21:15 time to enjoy the the the current level

00:21:15 --> 00:21:17 of activity before things start to ease

00:21:17 --> 00:21:23 off and um we see less um less

00:21:23 --> 00:21:24 spectacular

00:21:24 --> 00:21:26 light shows. Would that be the way to

00:21:26 --> 00:21:26 describe?

00:21:26 --> 00:21:28 >> Yeah. And and certainly as the sun's

00:21:28 --> 00:21:31 activity declines, the aurora that we

00:21:31 --> 00:21:33 see get further and further away from

00:21:33 --> 00:21:35 the equator, if I put it that way. The

00:21:35 --> 00:21:38 more active the sun is, the the the

00:21:38 --> 00:21:40 lower latitude you can you can see it

00:21:40 --> 00:21:41 at.

00:21:41 --> 00:21:44 >> Well, it's um it's certainly uh been

00:21:44 --> 00:21:47 spectacular lately. Uh thanks for the

00:21:47 --> 00:21:50 question, Mark.

00:21:50 --> 00:21:52 >> You're here also.

00:21:52 --> 00:21:53 >> Space nuts.

00:21:53 --> 00:21:55 >> Our final question, or is it a sermon?

00:21:55 --> 00:21:58 comes from Martin. Sit back, relax, grab

00:21:58 --> 00:22:00 a cup of tea. This is going to take a

00:22:00 --> 00:22:05 while. Hello, space nuts. Margin Burman

00:22:05 --> 00:22:09 Gorvine here, writer extraordinaire in

00:22:09 --> 00:22:11 many genres

00:22:11 --> 00:22:16 with a question for my work in progress.

00:22:16 --> 00:22:21 uh my science fiction novel involving a

00:22:21 --> 00:22:23 certain unpleasant

00:22:23 --> 00:22:29 very rich dude called Egon Rusk who

00:22:29 --> 00:22:32 wishes to see the stars with what he

00:22:32 --> 00:22:36 imagines is the master race and comes to

00:22:36 --> 00:22:41 a rather unfortunate end. Um,

00:22:41 --> 00:22:47 as I've been writing this, the uh their

00:22:47 --> 00:22:52 supposed destination is Trappist 1E.

00:22:52 --> 00:22:54 Now,

00:22:54 --> 00:22:57 Professor John T. Hero mentioned on a

00:22:57 --> 00:23:01 recent podcast that all the star, all

00:23:01 --> 00:23:04 the planets in the Trappist one system

00:23:04 --> 00:23:07 lack an atmosphere.

00:23:07 --> 00:23:09 So, I was very concerned about that

00:23:09 --> 00:23:12 because uh I don't want my characters

00:23:12 --> 00:23:17 all choking and dying. So, I had a look

00:23:17 --> 00:23:21 and it seems according to NASA that it's

00:23:21 --> 00:23:24 Trappist 1D

00:23:24 --> 00:23:28 as in David that has been shown to lack

00:23:28 --> 00:23:30 an atmosphere. But they're still trying

00:23:30 --> 00:23:35 to figure out whether Travis 1E has one

00:23:35 --> 00:23:40 or not. Um, in any case, I was just

00:23:40 --> 00:23:44 wondering if there are any other

00:23:44 --> 00:23:48 uh stars with with exoplanets

00:23:48 --> 00:23:53 within say 20, 30, 40 light years of

00:23:53 --> 00:23:57 Earth that might conceivably be roughly

00:23:57 --> 00:24:00 the mass of Earth and might conceivably

00:24:00 --> 00:24:04 have a breathable atmosphere. I mean,

00:24:04 --> 00:24:06 this is all

00:24:06 --> 00:24:09 kind of off-the-wall satirical se uh

00:24:09 --> 00:24:11 sci-fi, so it doesn't matter that much,

00:24:11 --> 00:24:13 but I was just wondering about your

00:24:13 --> 00:24:18 thoughts, and I don't mean to uh

00:24:18 --> 00:24:24 disparage Professor her. Um I I I but I

00:24:24 --> 00:24:26 I you know I just suspect that he did

00:24:26 --> 00:24:30 see that Trappist one D lacks an

00:24:30 --> 00:24:32 atmosphere and sort of thought well

00:24:32 --> 00:24:35 maybe that's all the planets in that

00:24:35 --> 00:24:38 system. And also

00:24:38 --> 00:24:42 um I would like to conclude by reading a

00:24:42 --> 00:24:45 poem on that I've just written that is a

00:24:46 --> 00:24:49 riff on

00:24:49 --> 00:24:53 uh Robert Frost's famous uh fire and ice

00:24:54 --> 00:24:57 about the back and forth debate over the

00:24:57 --> 00:25:00 big bang versus the big crunch also

00:25:00 --> 00:25:03 known as the ganab gibb although I don't

00:25:03 --> 00:25:05 love that term because it sort of sounds

00:25:05 --> 00:25:08 like A lost BG.

00:25:08 --> 00:25:11 So

00:25:11 --> 00:25:14 swell or crunch.

00:25:14 --> 00:25:18 Some think the cosmos swells for I. Some

00:25:18 --> 00:25:22 see a crunch of aging bones I know and

00:25:22 --> 00:25:26 sigh. So might the cold get worse for I.

00:25:26 --> 00:25:29 But pressure hits you like a punch. You

00:25:29 --> 00:25:33 feel your skin begin to burn. And so I

00:25:33 --> 00:25:37 have a dreadful hunch. We may all learn.

00:25:37 --> 00:25:40 We must all bunch.

00:25:40 --> 00:25:44 Burman Gorvine. Over and out.

00:25:44 --> 00:25:48 Never leaves you wondering, Martin. Uh,

00:25:48 --> 00:25:51 thanks for the question. Um, I'm going

00:25:51 --> 00:25:53 to go first here, Fred, because only

00:25:53 --> 00:25:55 this morning by coincidence did I read a

00:25:55 --> 00:25:57 story and it's a little bit of an irony

00:25:57 --> 00:25:59 in this because it comes from the

00:25:59 --> 00:26:01 University of Southern Queensland where

00:26:01 --> 00:26:05 Professor Jonty her works and it's uh

00:26:06 --> 00:26:08 this has been published on the ABC uh

00:26:08 --> 00:26:11 science website. Uh so it it basically

00:26:11 --> 00:26:13 says that the that astronomers at the

00:26:13 --> 00:26:15 University of Southern Queensland have

00:26:16 --> 00:26:19 discovered a potential candidate for an

00:26:19 --> 00:26:21 Earth-sized planet. It's uh planet

00:26:21 --> 00:26:24 HD137030B.

00:26:24 --> 00:26:26 It's a bit further away than Martin

00:26:26 --> 00:26:29 would like, 150 light years from Earth,

00:26:29 --> 00:26:33 but it orbits a sunlike star and they're

00:26:33 --> 00:26:36 referring to it as a planet candidate.

00:26:36 --> 00:26:39 Um the p paper needs uh one more

00:26:39 --> 00:26:42 observation to confirm the uh status of

00:26:42 --> 00:26:46 planet but this one is only slightly

00:26:46 --> 00:26:49 bigger than earth if it is uh indeed a

00:26:49 --> 00:26:53 um a a a planet. They think they think

00:26:53 --> 00:26:57 so. Uh an earth almost earthsized planet

00:26:57 --> 00:27:00 orbiting a sunlike star sounds like it's

00:27:00 --> 00:27:02 got some some potential there coming out

00:27:02 --> 00:27:04 of the University of Southern

00:27:04 --> 00:27:05 Queensland. So that's uh interesting

00:27:05 --> 00:27:08 news, very interesting timing based on

00:27:08 --> 00:27:10 um receiving Martin's question.

00:27:10 --> 00:27:10 >> Yeah.

00:27:10 --> 00:27:12 >> Um just before the uh the publication of

00:27:12 --> 00:27:14 that story.

00:27:14 --> 00:27:17 >> Yeah. Um and uh Luke, Martin's as

00:27:17 --> 00:27:20 capable as I am of looking all these up.

00:27:20 --> 00:27:22 Uh the Wikipedia list of nearest

00:27:22 --> 00:27:24 terrestrial exoplanet candidates is

00:27:24 --> 00:27:26 probably the the neatest source to go to

00:27:26 --> 00:27:28 because it gives references to a lot of

00:27:28 --> 00:27:32 the original papers of these uh the in

00:27:32 --> 00:27:35 which the planets are described. Um it's

00:27:36 --> 00:27:40 uh uh currently got this is uh uh ones

00:27:40 --> 00:27:44 within 50 light years. uh I put in when

00:27:44 --> 00:27:46 I went through this the search 34

00:27:46 --> 00:27:49 exoplanets 11 of which probably lie

00:27:49 --> 00:27:52 inside their stars habitable zone. It's

00:27:52 --> 00:27:56 a bit more difficult to, as Martin was

00:27:56 --> 00:27:58 um kind of hinting there, it's a bit

00:27:58 --> 00:28:01 more difficult to confirm the atmosphere

00:28:01 --> 00:28:05 uh of a of a an exoplanet because what

00:28:05 --> 00:28:08 you what you're trying to do is um most

00:28:08 --> 00:28:10 of these are discovered by the transit

00:28:10 --> 00:28:12 method. You know, planets that go in

00:28:12 --> 00:28:14 front of their parent star, they dim the

00:28:14 --> 00:28:17 light slightly uh as they pass in front

00:28:17 --> 00:28:18 of the parent star, and you can measure

00:28:18 --> 00:28:22 that dimming. Uh but you can also um if

00:28:22 --> 00:28:24 you're if you've got very topline

00:28:24 --> 00:28:27 equipment like the web telescope uh you

00:28:28 --> 00:28:30 can also look at the spectrum uh change

00:28:30 --> 00:28:32 in the star as the planet passes in

00:28:32 --> 00:28:34 front of it and if that spectrum changes

00:28:34 --> 00:28:37 then uh you can be sure that the planet

00:28:37 --> 00:28:39 has an atmosphere and you can actually

00:28:39 --> 00:28:42 see what gases are are actually present

00:28:42 --> 00:28:44 in the atmosphere. So, um, that's a much

00:28:44 --> 00:28:46 more difficult observation and I think

00:28:46 --> 00:28:48 that's why, uh, it's a bit of a struggle

00:28:48 --> 00:28:51 for Martin to find to to identify with

00:28:51 --> 00:28:54 certainty, uh, which of these exoplanets

00:28:54 --> 00:28:56 might have an atmosphere. I might leave

00:28:56 --> 00:28:58 him to that and remind him that since

00:28:58 --> 00:28:59 he's writing fiction, he can do anything

00:28:59 --> 00:29:02 like with these planets, anything,

00:29:02 --> 00:29:04 anything he wants.

00:29:04 --> 00:29:06 >> I I'm um well into my trilogy, Fred.

00:29:06 --> 00:29:09 I've uh written the first book and I'm

00:29:09 --> 00:29:12 six chapters into the second book and

00:29:12 --> 00:29:13 >> still the the ideas are still coming.

00:29:14 --> 00:29:15 I'm I'm wondering when I'll hit the

00:29:15 --> 00:29:18 brick wall, but um yeah, it's it's going

00:29:18 --> 00:29:20 well at the moment. I'm enjoying it. So,

00:29:20 --> 00:29:22 I'm not going to give anything away, but

00:29:22 --> 00:29:22 um

00:29:22 --> 00:29:25 >> you're making it up as you go along.

00:29:25 --> 00:29:27 >> That's exactly how I'm

00:29:27 --> 00:29:28 >> I'll get to the next chapter and go,

00:29:28 --> 00:29:30 okay, where do I want this to go? And I

00:29:30 --> 00:29:33 just let my imagination run wild. So, um

00:29:33 --> 00:29:35 that's how I've always written. I don't,

00:29:35 --> 00:29:37 you know, started at school doing it

00:29:37 --> 00:29:38 that way when I won a composition

00:29:38 --> 00:29:39 contest.

00:29:39 --> 00:29:40 >> Very good.

00:29:40 --> 00:29:44 >> And that was that. Um, so yeah, we we

00:29:44 --> 00:29:45 covered Martin's question. Great poetry,

00:29:46 --> 00:29:48 by the way. The the big crunch. Yeah,

00:29:48 --> 00:29:50 nice work. Thanks, Martin. Good to hear

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00:30:27 --> 00:30:30 uh they do help apparently to um find

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00:30:38 --> 00:30:40 and thank you Fred as always. It's been

00:30:40 --> 00:30:41 great fun.

00:30:41 --> 00:30:43 >> Um it's good fun or else we wouldn't do

00:30:43 --> 00:30:44 it.

00:30:44 --> 00:30:46 >> That's that's absolutely true. Certainly

00:30:46 --> 00:30:49 not doing it for the money. Um

00:30:49 --> 00:30:49 >> no,

00:30:49 --> 00:30:51 >> thanks Fred.

00:30:51 --> 00:30:53 >> We'll see you next week. Uh, Professor

00:30:53 --> 00:30:54 Fred Watson, astronomer at large. And

00:30:54 --> 00:30:56 thanks to Hugh in the studio, who

00:30:56 --> 00:30:58 couldn't be with us today because he's

00:30:58 --> 00:31:00 actually put his hand up for a mission

00:31:00 --> 00:31:02 to the sun because it's a lot cooler

00:31:02 --> 00:31:04 there than it is in Australia at the

00:31:04 --> 00:31:06 moment. Can't blame him for that. And

00:31:06 --> 00:31:07 from me, Andrew Dunley, thanks for your

00:31:07 --> 00:31:09 company. We'll catch you on the next

00:31:09 --> 00:31:11 episode of Space Nuts. Bye-bye.

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