SpaceTime Series 29 Episode 34 *NASA's Van Allen Probe A comes to a fiery end After a mission lasting some 14 years, NASA's Van Allen Probe A spacecraft has re-entered Earth’s atmosphere in a fiery death plunge burning up over the Pacific Ocean. *NASA Mobile Launcher 2 on hold Last week’s announcement of changes to the Artemis Moon launch schedule has now resulted in NASA pulling the plug on further work on its Mobile Launcher two project which has been under construction at the Kennedy Space Centre in Florida for two years. *Spectacular failure for Japanese rocket . SpaceOne have failed in their third attempt to become the first private Japanese company to put a satellite in orbit. *The Science Report New warnings that the rate of climate change has surged since 2015. The first patient to be surgically connected to a genetically modified pig liver. Why some domestic cats are prone to chronic kidney disease. Skeptics guide to the FBI investigating Big Foot. https://spacetimewithstuartgary.com (https://www.bitesz.com/show/spacetime/ (https://www.bitesz.com/show/spacetime/) This week’s guests include: Linda Losurdo from the University of Sydney Van Allan probes Deputy Project Scientist Nicky Fox from the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory And our regular guests: Alex Zaharov-Reutt from techadvice.life Tim Mendham from Australian Skeptics 🌏 Get Our Exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.bitesz.com/nordvpn (http://www.bitesz.com/nordvpn) . The discounts and bonuses are incredible! And it’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! ✌
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 This is Spaceime Series 29, episode 34
00:00:03 --> 00:00:06 for broadcast on the 20th of March 2026.
00:00:06 --> 00:00:09 Coming up on Spaceime, NASA's Van Allen
00:00:10 --> 00:00:13 Probay comes to a fiery end. The AY's
00:00:13 --> 00:00:16 mobile launcher 2 project put on hold
00:00:16 --> 00:00:18 and a spectacular failure for a Japanese
00:00:18 --> 00:00:22 rocket. All that and more coming up on
00:00:22 --> 00:00:24 Spaceime.
00:00:24 --> 00:00:43 >> Welcome to Spaceime with Stuart Garry.
00:00:43 --> 00:00:45 After a mission lasting some 14 years,
00:00:45 --> 00:00:48 NASA's Ven Allen Probase spacecraft has
00:00:48 --> 00:00:50 entered Earth's atmosphere in a fiery
00:00:50 --> 00:00:52 death plunge, burning up over the
00:00:52 --> 00:00:56 Pacific Ocean. Between 2012 and 2019,
00:00:56 --> 00:00:58 the spacecraft together with its twin
00:00:58 --> 00:01:00 Van Allen probe B flew through the Van
00:01:00 --> 00:01:02 Allen radiation belts, rings of charged
00:01:02 --> 00:01:04 particles trapped by its magnetic field
00:01:04 --> 00:01:06 to understand how the ionized particles
00:01:06 --> 00:01:09 were gained and lost. The belt shield
00:01:09 --> 00:01:11 Earth and its inhabitants from cosmic
00:01:11 --> 00:01:13 radiation, from solar storms, and the
00:01:13 --> 00:01:16 constantly streaming solar wind, all of
00:01:16 --> 00:01:17 which can be harmful to humans and
00:01:17 --> 00:01:19 damage technology. So, understanding
00:01:19 --> 00:01:22 these belts is important. Last week, the
00:01:22 --> 00:01:24 United States Space Force predicted the
00:01:24 --> 00:01:27 600 kg probe was experiencing enough
00:01:27 --> 00:01:29 orbital decay to re-enter the Earth's
00:01:29 --> 00:01:31 atmosphere within a few days. As
00:01:31 --> 00:01:33 expected, most of the spacecraft burnt
00:01:33 --> 00:01:35 up as it passed through the atmosphere,
00:01:35 --> 00:01:37 but some components made out of titanium
00:01:37 --> 00:01:39 and stainless steel were expected to
00:01:39 --> 00:01:41 survive the heat of re-entry, splashing
00:01:41 --> 00:01:44 down in the ocean. Originally designed
00:01:44 --> 00:01:46 for just a 2-year mission, the Van Allen
00:01:46 --> 00:01:49 probes A and B were launched back on the
00:01:49 --> 00:01:51 30th of August 2012 and gathered
00:01:51 --> 00:01:53 unprecedented data for almost 7 years on
00:01:54 --> 00:01:56 Earth's two permanent radiation belts,
00:01:56 --> 00:01:57 named in honor of the scientist James
00:01:57 --> 00:02:00 Van Allen. NASA ended the mission after
00:02:00 --> 00:02:02 the two spacecraft finally ran out of
00:02:02 --> 00:02:04 fuel and were no longer able to orient
00:02:04 --> 00:02:06 themselves towards the sun. The Van
00:02:06 --> 00:02:08 Allen probes were the first spacecraft
00:02:08 --> 00:02:10 specifically designed to operate and
00:02:10 --> 00:02:11 gather scientific data for many years
00:02:12 --> 00:02:14 inside the radiation belts. It's a
00:02:14 --> 00:02:15 region around our planet where most
00:02:15 --> 00:02:17 spacecraft and astronaut missions try to
00:02:17 --> 00:02:19 minimize their time there in order to
00:02:19 --> 00:02:22 avoid damaging radiation. The NASA
00:02:22 --> 00:02:24 mission, managed and operated by John's
00:02:24 --> 00:02:26 Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab,
00:02:26 --> 00:02:28 made several major discoveries about how
00:02:28 --> 00:02:29 the belts operate, including the first
00:02:30 --> 00:02:31 data showing the existence of a
00:02:31 --> 00:02:33 transient third radiation belt, which
00:02:33 --> 00:02:35 forms during times of intense solar
00:02:35 --> 00:02:36 activity.
00:02:36 --> 00:02:37 >> We're learning much more about the
00:02:37 --> 00:02:39 dynamics and the evolution of the
00:02:40 --> 00:02:42 radiation belts, why they're changing,
00:02:42 --> 00:02:44 how they're changing. We've seen them
00:02:44 --> 00:02:46 almost disappear completely. We've seen
00:02:46 --> 00:02:48 new belts that we didn't even know exist
00:02:48 --> 00:02:50 appear. Traditionally, we've always
00:02:50 --> 00:02:53 thought of an inner and an outer belt.
00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 What we found now is that the outer belt
00:02:55 --> 00:02:57 has much more structure in it. And there
00:02:57 --> 00:03:00 is a storage ring, a separate ring,
00:03:00 --> 00:03:03 almost a permanent third belt that's
00:03:03 --> 00:03:04 there that we think is actually the home
00:03:04 --> 00:03:07 to the particles that are filling the
00:03:07 --> 00:03:08 outer belt.
00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 >> This 2-year mission didn't quite get off
00:03:10 --> 00:03:12 the ground as originally expected. It
00:03:12 --> 00:03:15 was first delayed for 24 hours for a
00:03:15 --> 00:03:17 technical issue and then it was followed
00:03:17 --> 00:03:19 up by some bad weather which eventually
00:03:19 --> 00:03:21 led to another delay.
00:03:21 --> 00:03:24 >> Then Hurricane Isaac rolled in to the
00:03:24 --> 00:03:26 Cape that really put us back almost a
00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 full week. We actually had to roll the
00:03:29 --> 00:03:31 rocket back into the integration
00:03:31 --> 00:03:33 facility and shut the doors and protect
00:03:33 --> 00:03:36 it. But a few days later, we were back
00:03:36 --> 00:03:39 out again, ready to go. And it was worth
00:03:39 --> 00:03:42 every second of the stress of waiting
00:03:42 --> 00:03:45 for it. We launched at the end of August
00:03:45 --> 00:03:47 and it was almost like the sun knew we'd
00:03:47 --> 00:03:49 launched and immediately switched on. We
00:03:49 --> 00:03:51 hadn't seen really any space weather
00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 events for really quite a long period of
00:03:54 --> 00:03:56 time. And yet within the first couple of
00:03:56 --> 00:03:59 days of the mission being up there, the
00:03:59 --> 00:04:02 sun threw a beautiful event our way. We
00:04:02 --> 00:04:04 were able to see a lot of very very
00:04:04 --> 00:04:05 interesting science that we wouldn't
00:04:05 --> 00:04:07 have seen if we hadn't had this large
00:04:07 --> 00:04:09 event. And we certainly would never have
00:04:09 --> 00:04:11 seen it without the tremendous
00:04:11 --> 00:04:14 instrumentation on the two spacecraft.
00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 We've always known that there are waves
00:04:16 --> 00:04:19 and magnetic and electric fluctuations
00:04:19 --> 00:04:21 that go on in these belts. But with the
00:04:21 --> 00:04:25 more traditional one spacecraft, um we
00:04:25 --> 00:04:27 could just see see the wave and it would
00:04:27 --> 00:04:29 disappear. With the two spacecraft and
00:04:29 --> 00:04:31 also the most sophisticated instruments
00:04:31 --> 00:04:33 that we've flown in the belts, we're
00:04:33 --> 00:04:35 actually able to look at how these waves
00:04:35 --> 00:04:37 evolve, how they change, and how long
00:04:37 --> 00:04:39 they last. These waves are very
00:04:39 --> 00:04:42 important because they actually carry
00:04:42 --> 00:04:45 the particles that are in the belts.
00:04:45 --> 00:04:47 It's almost like the particles surf on
00:04:47 --> 00:04:48 these waves.
00:04:48 --> 00:04:50 >> That's Ven Allen Prob's deputy project
00:04:50 --> 00:04:52 scientist Nikki Fox from the John's
00:04:52 --> 00:04:54 Hopkins University Applied Physics
00:04:54 --> 00:04:56 Laboratory. When the mission finally
00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 came to an end in 2019 and was suggested
00:04:59 --> 00:05:01 the spacecraft would reenter Earth
00:05:01 --> 00:05:03 atmosphere sometime around 2034.
00:05:04 --> 00:05:06 However, those calculations were made
00:05:06 --> 00:05:08 before the current solar cycle reached
00:05:08 --> 00:05:10 its climax, which has proven to be far
00:05:10 --> 00:05:12 more active than expected. The increased
00:05:12 --> 00:05:14 stream of particles flowing out from the
00:05:14 --> 00:05:16 sun causes the Earth's atmosphere to
00:05:16 --> 00:05:18 wobble like a jellyfish, contracting in
00:05:18 --> 00:05:21 some places and expanding in others. In
00:05:21 --> 00:05:24 2024, scientists confirmed the sun had
00:05:24 --> 00:05:25 reached its solar maximum, triggering
00:05:26 --> 00:05:28 intense space weather events, and these
00:05:28 --> 00:05:30 conditions increased atmospheric drag on
00:05:30 --> 00:05:32 the spacecraft beyond the initial
00:05:32 --> 00:05:34 estimates, resulting in an earlier
00:05:34 --> 00:05:36 thanex expected re-entry. While Van
00:05:36 --> 00:05:39 Allen probe A is now down, its twin
00:05:39 --> 00:05:41 still not expected to re-enter before
00:05:41 --> 00:05:44 2030. Data from NASA's Van Allen probes
00:05:44 --> 00:05:46 mission still plays an important role in
00:05:46 --> 00:05:48 understanding space weather and its
00:05:48 --> 00:05:51 effects. By reviewing the archived data
00:05:51 --> 00:05:52 from this mission, astronomers can study
00:05:52 --> 00:05:54 the radiation belt surrounding the
00:05:54 --> 00:05:56 Earth, which are key to predicting how
00:05:56 --> 00:05:58 solar storm activity impacts satellites,
00:05:58 --> 00:06:01 affects astronauts, and interferes with
00:06:01 --> 00:06:03 communication systems, navigation
00:06:03 --> 00:06:05 signals, and even power grids on the
00:06:05 --> 00:06:08 ground. By observing these dynamic
00:06:08 --> 00:06:10 regions, the Van Allen probes contribute
00:06:10 --> 00:06:12 to improving forecasts for space weather
00:06:12 --> 00:06:16 events and their potential consequences.
00:06:16 --> 00:06:19 This is spaceime. Still to come, mobile
00:06:19 --> 00:06:22 launcher 2 project put on hold and a
00:06:22 --> 00:06:24 spectacular failure for a Japanese
00:06:24 --> 00:06:27 rocket. All that and more still to come
00:06:27 --> 00:06:44 on Spaceime.
00:06:44 --> 00:06:45 Last week's announcement of changes in
00:06:45 --> 00:06:47 the Artemis moon launch schedule has now
00:06:47 --> 00:06:49 resulted in NASA pulling the plug on
00:06:50 --> 00:06:52 further work on its mobile launcher 2
00:06:52 --> 00:06:53 project which had been under
00:06:53 --> 00:06:54 construction at the Kennedy Space Center
00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 in Florida over the past 2 years. While
00:06:57 --> 00:06:59 the current mobile launcher one was
00:06:59 --> 00:07:01 built for Artemus 1, 2, and three block
00:07:02 --> 00:07:04 one configurations of the SLS space
00:07:04 --> 00:07:06 launch system rockets, mobile launcher 2
00:07:06 --> 00:07:08 was intended for the taller rockets
00:07:08 --> 00:07:10 planned for block 1b and block two
00:07:10 --> 00:07:12 configurations, which would appear in
00:07:12 --> 00:07:15 the guise of Arteimus 4 onwards. As well
00:07:15 --> 00:07:17 as changing the Artemis 3 mission from a
00:07:17 --> 00:07:19 manned lunar landing to a low Earth
00:07:19 --> 00:07:20 orbit practice and test flight, the
00:07:20 --> 00:07:23 changes also see an increased cadence in
00:07:23 --> 00:07:25 flights to the moon with launches now
00:07:25 --> 00:07:26 expected to take place roughly once
00:07:26 --> 00:07:28 every 10 months and importantly the
00:07:28 --> 00:07:30 scrapping of the new exploration upper
00:07:30 --> 00:07:33 stage intended for use on Artemis 4
00:07:33 --> 00:07:36 onwards. The existing intram cryogenic
00:07:36 --> 00:07:38 propulsion upper stage which was used on
00:07:38 --> 00:07:40 Artemus 1 and will also be used on
00:07:40 --> 00:07:42 Artemises 2 and three is based on the
00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 upper stage of the Delta II and Delta IV
00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 launch vehicles built by the United
00:07:47 --> 00:07:48 Launch Alliance. It features a single
00:07:48 --> 00:07:51 aerjet rocket RL10 engine and was meant
00:07:51 --> 00:07:53 to simply be a temporary solution until
00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 the new bigger purpose-built exploration
00:07:56 --> 00:07:58 upper stage was available. The
00:07:58 --> 00:08:00 exploration upper stage was designed for
00:08:00 --> 00:08:02 use in Artemis 4 onwards and was to be
00:08:02 --> 00:08:04 taller and more powerful, designed to
00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 carry far larger payloads into trans
00:08:06 --> 00:08:09 lunar orbit. To do this, instead of
00:08:09 --> 00:08:11 having just one, it was to be fitted
00:08:11 --> 00:08:13 with four RL10 C3 engines, and it would
00:08:13 --> 00:08:15 have become standard for blocks 1B and
00:08:16 --> 00:08:19 block 2 versions of the SLS. In order to
00:08:19 --> 00:08:21 accommodate the new larger rocket, NASA
00:08:21 --> 00:08:23 decided to rebuild one of its existing
00:08:23 --> 00:08:25 spare mobile launches, Mobile Launcher
00:08:25 --> 00:08:27 2, to mate with the SLS equipped with
00:08:27 --> 00:08:29 this new taller upper stage. But now,
00:08:30 --> 00:08:31 with the new purpose-built exploration
00:08:31 --> 00:08:33 upper stage scrapped, NASA will instead
00:08:33 --> 00:08:35 use an upper stage based around the
00:08:35 --> 00:08:37 United Launch Alliance's Centaur second
00:08:37 --> 00:08:39 stage, which is used on the Atlas 5 and
00:08:39 --> 00:08:42 Vulcan launch vehicles known as the
00:08:42 --> 00:08:44 Centaur 5. This upper stage will be
00:08:44 --> 00:08:46 equipped with two RL10 engines and will
00:08:46 --> 00:08:48 be able to be accommodated on the
00:08:48 --> 00:08:51 existing mobile launcher one structure.
00:08:51 --> 00:08:54 So what happens to mobile launcher 2?
00:08:54 --> 00:08:56 The problem is it's already 90%
00:08:56 --> 00:08:59 complete. Primary contractor Becktel
00:08:59 --> 00:09:00 added the last modular block to the
00:09:00 --> 00:09:02 tower in the middle of last year
00:09:02 --> 00:09:05 bringing its total height to some 65 m
00:09:05 --> 00:09:07 and construction on the entire project
00:09:07 --> 00:09:09 was expected to be complete before the
00:09:09 --> 00:09:12 end of this year. As to what happens
00:09:12 --> 00:09:16 now, well, that remains to be explained.
00:09:16 --> 00:09:19 This is spaceime. Still to come, a
00:09:19 --> 00:09:21 spectacular failure for a new Japanese
00:09:21 --> 00:09:23 rocket. And later in the science report,
00:09:23 --> 00:09:26 why some domestic house cats are prone
00:09:26 --> 00:09:28 to chronic kidney disease. All that and
00:09:28 --> 00:09:45 more still to come on Spaceime.
00:09:45 --> 00:09:47 Space 1 have failed in their third
00:09:47 --> 00:09:48 attempt to become the first private
00:09:48 --> 00:09:51 Japanese company to put a satellite into
00:09:51 --> 00:09:53 orbit. The 18 m tall solidfueled
00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 carriers rocket fell just 29 seconds
00:09:56 --> 00:09:58 after launch from the Wakama launch site
00:09:58 --> 00:10:00 in western Japan spiraling back into the
00:10:00 --> 00:10:02 ground. The cause of the failure is
00:10:02 --> 00:10:05 still being investigated. The company
00:10:05 --> 00:10:07 says no major anomalies were identified
00:10:07 --> 00:10:09 within the vehicle during the flight and
00:10:09 --> 00:10:11 it remained on course, suggesting the
00:10:11 --> 00:10:12 fault must have been with a flight
00:10:12 --> 00:10:15 termination self-destruct system. The
00:10:15 --> 00:10:17 mission was carrying a number of small
00:10:17 --> 00:10:19 satellites, including one for a Tokyo
00:10:19 --> 00:10:21 high school project. The company's first
00:10:21 --> 00:10:24 launch attempt back in 2024 ended in
00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 failure following an explosion seconds
00:10:26 --> 00:10:28 after launch. Then a second launch
00:10:28 --> 00:10:30 attempt ended when mission managers were
00:10:30 --> 00:10:32 forced to issue a self-destruct order
00:10:32 --> 00:10:34 following a technical problem aboard the
00:10:34 --> 00:10:53 vehicle. This is spacetime
00:10:53 --> 00:10:55 and time out of tech. Another brief look
00:10:55 --> 00:10:56 at some of the other stories making news
00:10:56 --> 00:10:58 in science this week with the science
00:10:58 --> 00:11:00 report. There are new warnings today
00:11:00 --> 00:11:02 that the rate of climate change has
00:11:02 --> 00:11:04 surged since 2015.
00:11:04 --> 00:11:06 The findings reported in the journals
00:11:06 --> 00:11:09 Geoysical Research Letters and Nature
00:11:09 --> 00:11:10 showed that the rate has now nearly
00:11:10 --> 00:11:13 doubled to what it was back in the 1970s
00:11:13 --> 00:11:15 and much faster than many estimates. The
00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 authors say their new analysis captures
00:11:17 --> 00:11:19 a more accurate picture because it
00:11:19 --> 00:11:20 accounts for the effects of natural
00:11:20 --> 00:11:22 factors such as the El Nino weather
00:11:22 --> 00:11:24 pattern. Most climate scientists agree
00:11:24 --> 00:11:27 that warming is accelerating partly due
00:11:27 --> 00:11:29 to a reduction in sun reflecting air
00:11:29 --> 00:11:31 pollution.
00:11:31 --> 00:11:34 A 56-year-old man with liver failure has
00:11:34 --> 00:11:35 become the first patient to be
00:11:35 --> 00:11:37 surgically connected to a genetically
00:11:37 --> 00:11:40 modified pig liver. A report in the
00:11:40 --> 00:11:42 journal Nature claims the procedure
00:11:42 --> 00:11:44 known as an excaporal profusion involved
00:11:44 --> 00:11:46 surgeons connecting the man to a pig
00:11:46 --> 00:11:48 liver outside his body so that it could
00:11:48 --> 00:11:50 filter harmful waste products from his
00:11:50 --> 00:11:53 bloodstream. The man was disconnected
00:11:53 --> 00:11:55 from the system after 3 days to reduce
00:11:55 --> 00:11:57 the risk of infection. But there were no
00:11:57 --> 00:11:59 signs of rejection while he was
00:11:59 --> 00:12:01 connected. He later received a human
00:12:01 --> 00:12:05 liver transplant and is now recovering.
00:12:05 --> 00:12:06 Scientists from the University of
00:12:06 --> 00:12:08 Nottingham have uncovered a surprising
00:12:08 --> 00:12:10 biological quirk in domestic house cats,
00:12:10 --> 00:12:12 which may help explain why some of them
00:12:12 --> 00:12:15 are so prone to chronic kidney disease.
00:12:15 --> 00:12:17 Unlike dogs and most other mammals, cats
00:12:17 --> 00:12:19 appear to accumulate unusual fats inside
00:12:19 --> 00:12:21 the cells of their kidneys, sometimes
00:12:21 --> 00:12:24 from a very young age. The new study
00:12:24 --> 00:12:25 reported in the journal Frontiers of
00:12:25 --> 00:12:28 Veterary Science discovered that cats
00:12:28 --> 00:12:29 accumulate a rare group of modified
00:12:29 --> 00:12:31 triglycerides, the most common type of
00:12:31 --> 00:12:33 fat in the body, essential for storing
00:12:33 --> 00:12:36 excess energy from food. And some of
00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 these triglycerides are showing unusual
00:12:38 --> 00:12:40 chemical bonds and branch structures,
00:12:40 --> 00:12:42 which are very rarely observed in other
00:12:42 --> 00:12:45 mammals. Many of these fats have special
00:12:45 --> 00:12:46 ether linkages and behave differently
00:12:46 --> 00:12:49 from typical dietary fats. The authors
00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 proposed that this distinctive lipid
00:12:51 --> 00:12:53 buildup inside kidney cells could be an
00:12:53 --> 00:12:55 early sign of long-term stress within
00:12:55 --> 00:12:57 the kidney, potentially contributing to
00:12:57 --> 00:13:00 tissue damage over time. The hope now is
00:13:00 --> 00:13:02 to develop a supplement or modified diet
00:13:02 --> 00:13:04 to help prevent these unusual lipid
00:13:04 --> 00:13:07 structures from accumulating.
00:13:07 --> 00:13:09 Time for another Bigfoot story. And the
00:13:09 --> 00:13:10 one that's doing the rounds at the
00:13:10 --> 00:13:13 moment are claims that the FBI are
00:13:13 --> 00:13:14 investigating possible existence of
00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 Sasquatch.
00:13:16 --> 00:13:18 But as the skeptics Tim Mendum points
00:13:18 --> 00:13:20 out, that's not what's really happening.
00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 >> People are talking about in news stories
00:13:22 --> 00:13:24 that recently declassified documents
00:13:24 --> 00:13:26 revealed that the US FBI had
00:13:26 --> 00:13:28 correspondence with a Bigfoot hunter in
00:13:28 --> 00:13:32 7677 who offered up some hair and skin
00:13:32 --> 00:13:34 that he had collected to be tested by
00:13:34 --> 00:13:36 the FBI in labs. This actually story has
00:13:36 --> 00:13:37 been around for a while. I mean, I I
00:13:37 --> 00:13:39 heard about this story years and years
00:13:39 --> 00:13:41 ago. It tends to stop there. story and
00:13:41 --> 00:13:44 that FBI have tested quote Bigfoot close
00:13:44 --> 00:13:47 quote hair, you know, material, etc. And
00:13:47 --> 00:13:48 people say, "Well, that's fantastic. If
00:13:48 --> 00:13:50 the FBI treats it seriously, it must be
00:13:50 --> 00:13:51 true." Well, they didn't treat it
00:13:51 --> 00:13:53 seriously for a long, long time. They
00:13:53 --> 00:13:54 were finally persuaded by this rather
00:13:54 --> 00:13:56 annoying person who kept insisting that
00:13:56 --> 00:13:57 they tested it. They tested it and they
00:13:57 --> 00:13:59 came back and said, "It's deer hair,
00:13:59 --> 00:14:00 right? It's not a Bigfoot, it's deer."
00:14:00 --> 00:14:03 They say nothing there. So, this hidden
00:14:03 --> 00:14:04 documentation that's been recently
00:14:04 --> 00:14:06 declassified, but not recently
00:14:06 --> 00:14:08 declassified, proves nothing. In fact,
00:14:08 --> 00:14:09 it proves the opposite of what this guy
00:14:09 --> 00:14:11 was saying. the declassified documents,
00:14:11 --> 00:14:12 the pro people will say, "It's been
00:14:12 --> 00:14:15 tested by FBI. It must be true." People
00:14:15 --> 00:14:17 will look at it and say, "It's tested by
00:14:17 --> 00:14:19 FBI and they found out it was a deer."
00:14:19 --> 00:14:20 >> They'll grab what they can full of
00:14:20 --> 00:14:21 legitimacy, won't they?
00:14:21 --> 00:14:23 >> They'll take things out of context.
00:14:23 --> 00:14:24 They'll sort of snip and sort of chop
00:14:24 --> 00:14:26 something short without the obvious
00:14:26 --> 00:14:27 conclusion that would be there just by
00:14:28 --> 00:14:30 saying like CIA have checked have tested
00:14:30 --> 00:14:32 psychics. Yes, they have. And they found
00:14:32 --> 00:14:33 them to be useless. It's the second half
00:14:34 --> 00:14:35 of that judgment that the psychics don't
00:14:35 --> 00:14:37 like saying. The fact that FBI have
00:14:37 --> 00:14:39 checked the Bigfoot or that the CIA have
00:14:40 --> 00:14:41 checked out psychics trying to find
00:14:41 --> 00:14:43 something some weapon that they can use.
00:14:43 --> 00:14:45 And in both cases, they found nothing is
00:14:45 --> 00:14:47 indicative that the pro will always take
00:14:47 --> 00:14:49 a sting of of a claim and the skeptics
00:14:49 --> 00:14:51 will go take a few steps further and
00:14:51 --> 00:14:52 say, "But hang on, what was the
00:14:52 --> 00:14:53 conclusion?"
00:14:53 --> 00:14:55 >> Well, there was a Bigfoot program I was
00:14:55 --> 00:14:56 watching the other day on the Animal
00:14:56 --> 00:14:58 Planet. Not only did they talk about
00:14:58 --> 00:15:00 Bigfoot, but they also talked about
00:15:00 --> 00:15:02 using remote readings. There's also
00:15:02 --> 00:15:04 people in in the UFO community who are
00:15:04 --> 00:15:05 doing the same sort of thing, using
00:15:05 --> 00:15:08 psychics to bring UFOs down, not if they
00:15:08 --> 00:15:09 crash, just to bring them closer so they
00:15:09 --> 00:15:11 can look at them more closely. It
00:15:11 --> 00:15:12 doesn't help that the case any if
00:15:12 --> 00:15:13 there's no evidence.
00:15:13 --> 00:15:15 >> That's the skeptics Tim Mum and this is
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