Comet 3I ATLAS: Unveiling the Secrets of an Ancient Interstellar Wanderer
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Comet 3I ATLAS: Unveiling the Secrets of an Ancient Interstellar Wanderer

SpaceTime Series 29 Episode 115 A comet older than the Sun Astronomers have found new clues about the origin of interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS suggesting it’s more than twice as old as the Sun and solar system. The nearby “Super Earth” that might be a candidate for life Astronomers have taken a closer look at a nearby exoplanet finding it may be more Earth-like than previously thought. A new way to study the birth of the universe Scientists have discovered a new way to create quark gluon plasma – the first matter in the universe. The Science Report The number of women testing positive for gonorrhoea doubles over the past decade. New study shows people taking medicinal marijuana are far worse drivers. The growing problem of human pollution now present over the entire planet. The discovery of a half-billion-year-old fossil has rewritten the origin story of starfish Skeptics guide to the four flavours of aliens   Our Guest This Week Professor Bill Collins from Curtin University   Our regular guests: Alex Zaharov-Reutt from techadvice.life Tim Mendham from Australian Skeptics 🌏 Get Our Exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.bitesz.com/nordvpn . The discounts and bonuses are incredible! And it’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! ✌ If you’d like to support the podcast and gain access to bonus content by becoming a SpaceTime crew member, you can do just that through The Big Bang editions on Patreon, Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Details on the Support page on our website https://www.bitesz.com/show/spacetime/support/   For more SpaceTime and show links: https://linktr.ee/biteszHQ


00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 Stuart Gary: This is space time series 29 episode

00:00:02 --> 00:00:05 115 full broadcast on 25

00:00:05 --> 00:00:08 September 2026 coming up on

00:00:08 --> 00:00:10 Space, a comet older than the

00:00:10 --> 00:00:13 sun, the nearby super Earth planet

00:00:13 --> 00:00:16 that might be a candidate for life, and a

00:00:16 --> 00:00:18 new way to study the birth of the universe.

00:00:19 --> 00:00:22 All that and more coming up on, uh, Space

00:00:22 --> 00:00:25 Time. Welcome to

00:00:25 --> 00:00:27 Space Time with Stuart G.

00:00:43 --> 00:00:45 Astronomers have found new clues about the

00:00:45 --> 00:00:48 origin of interstellar comet 3I ATLAS,

00:00:48 --> 00:00:50 suggesting it may be more than twice as old

00:00:50 --> 00:00:53 as our sun and solar system. The

00:00:53 --> 00:00:55 findings, reported in the journal Nature

00:00:55 --> 00:00:57 Astronomy, are based on observations by the

00:00:57 --> 00:00:59 European Southern Observatory's Very Large

00:00:59 --> 00:01:01 Telescope in Chile, which studied the

00:01:01 --> 00:01:03 composition of the alien visitor, which is

00:01:03 --> 00:01:05 now considered to be the brightest

00:01:05 --> 00:01:07 interstellar object ever seen in detail.

00:01:08 --> 00:01:11 By measuring specific chemical fingerprints,

00:01:11 --> 00:01:13 the first observations of this kind for a

00:01:13 --> 00:01:15 comet formed outside our solar system, the

00:01:15 --> 00:01:17 authors found that 3i Atlas likely

00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 originated in the outskirts of an older star

00:01:20 --> 00:01:22 system. One of the study's authors,

00:01:22 --> 00:01:24 Cyril Opitum from the University of

00:01:24 --> 00:01:26 Edinburgh, says the findings are shining new

00:01:26 --> 00:01:29 light on the formation history of this comet.

00:01:29 --> 00:01:31 Interstellar comets are icy objects formed

00:01:31 --> 00:01:33 around stars other than the sun that have

00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 occasionally wandered into our solar system.

00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 Opidib says. They're sort of fossils from a

00:01:39 --> 00:01:41 planetary formation process that happen far

00:01:41 --> 00:01:43 away but, uh, which give scientists a chance

00:01:43 --> 00:01:46 to study them up close. Three Eye Atlas is

00:01:46 --> 00:01:48 the third interstellar object ever

00:01:48 --> 00:01:51 discovered. It follows One Eye Omau Maua back

00:01:51 --> 00:01:53 in 2017 and two I Borisov in

00:01:53 --> 00:01:56 2019. It was found as it was approaching

00:01:56 --> 00:01:58 the sun, spending enough time in our solar

00:01:58 --> 00:02:01 system for astronomers to study it in some

00:02:01 --> 00:02:03 detail. While it was difficult to measure the

00:02:03 --> 00:02:05 composition of the first two interstellar

00:02:05 --> 00:02:07 objects, with no gas detected from A MAU Maua

00:02:07 --> 00:02:10 and Borisov being too faint, this was not the

00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 case for 3i Atlas. Thanks to the object's

00:02:13 --> 00:02:15 unprecedented brightness, the authors were

00:02:15 --> 00:02:17 able to measure the comet's isotopic ratios,

00:02:17 --> 00:02:19 the relative amounts of different forms of

00:02:19 --> 00:02:22 the same element. They measured the ratios of

00:02:22 --> 00:02:25 carbon and nitrogen isotopes in cyanide

00:02:25 --> 00:02:27 molecules present in the gas around the

00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 comet. These ratios are a good indicator of a

00:02:30 --> 00:02:32 comet's origin, as they're sensitive to the

00:02:32 --> 00:02:33 physical conditions in the formation

00:02:33 --> 00:02:36 environment and not expected to change much

00:02:36 --> 00:02:38 as the comet travels through space. Unlike

00:02:38 --> 00:02:41 comets from our solar system, three EYE Atlas

00:02:41 --> 00:02:43 was found to carry unusually high carbon and

00:02:43 --> 00:02:45 nitrogen isotopic ratios.

00:02:46 --> 00:02:48 A similar study led by Martin Cordinna from

00:02:48 --> 00:02:50 NASA's Goddard Space Flight Centre in

00:02:50 --> 00:02:52 Greenbelt, Maryland, which was published in

00:02:52 --> 00:02:54 last month's Nature, found a similar isotopic

00:02:54 --> 00:02:56 ratio for carbon, as well as elevated levels

00:02:56 --> 00:02:59 of deuterium, a heavy form of hydrogen.

00:02:59 --> 00:03:01 That study used data from NASA's Webb Space

00:03:01 --> 00:03:04 Telescope. Overall, the findings by

00:03:04 --> 00:03:07 OPITIM's team indicate that the comet likely

00:03:07 --> 00:03:09 formed in the outer regions of an old low

00:03:09 --> 00:03:12 metallicity star. Low metallicity

00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 stars are ones with compositions containing

00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 few elements heavier than hydrogen and

00:03:16 --> 00:03:19 helium. These types of stars are thought to

00:03:19 --> 00:03:21 have formed when the universe was much

00:03:21 --> 00:03:23 younger and less chemically rich than what it

00:03:23 --> 00:03:26 is now. Therefore, the authors suspect Thria

00:03:26 --> 00:03:28 ATLAS originated around a star much older

00:03:28 --> 00:03:30 than our sun and may be more than twice as

00:03:30 --> 00:03:33 old as the solar system. This

00:03:33 --> 00:03:35 interstellar traveller was first detected by

00:03:35 --> 00:03:38 NASA's Asteroid Terrestrial Impact Last Alert

00:03:38 --> 00:03:41 System back on July 1,

00:03:41 --> 00:03:43 2025. David Finossia from

00:03:43 --> 00:03:46 NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena,

00:03:46 --> 00:03:48 California says It was about 670 million

00:03:48 --> 00:03:50 kilometres the sun within the orbit of

00:03:50 --> 00:03:52 Jupiter when it was first discovered.

00:03:52 --> 00:03:55 David Finacia: 3i Atlas was discovered on July 1st by the

00:03:55 --> 00:03:58 NASA funded Atlas Survey. Uh, it was

00:03:58 --> 00:04:00 discovered using their uh, telescope at Rio

00:04:00 --> 00:04:03 Hurtado in Chile and it was first detected as

00:04:03 --> 00:04:04 a speckled light moving relative to

00:04:04 --> 00:04:07 background stars. We collected a good amount

00:04:07 --> 00:04:10 of data, more than 100 observations. We know

00:04:10 --> 00:04:12 its trajectory fairly well. We know it came

00:04:12 --> 00:04:14 from outside the solar system. Uh, from

00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 images we also saw that this object is

00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 active. We, which means that around the

00:04:18 --> 00:04:20 nucleus there is some coma, which is an

00:04:20 --> 00:04:22 indication that this object is in fact a

00:04:22 --> 00:04:24 comet. Right now it's hard to say how big

00:04:24 --> 00:04:26 this object is because being active, the

00:04:26 --> 00:04:29 brightness that we see is partially due to

00:04:29 --> 00:04:31 the size of the object, but also, uh, is

00:04:31 --> 00:04:33 partially due to the activity. And so we

00:04:33 --> 00:04:36 cannot really pinpoint the nucleus, uh, size

00:04:36 --> 00:04:38 directly. We have to better understand how

00:04:38 --> 00:04:41 active this object is and then uh, we can

00:04:41 --> 00:04:43 refine the size estimate and get a good idea.

00:04:43 --> 00:04:45 It's moving at a velocity of about

00:04:45 --> 00:04:48 135 miles per hour. So it's going

00:04:48 --> 00:04:50 really fast for that distance from the sun.

00:04:51 --> 00:04:52 This is really exceptional. You have to be an

00:04:52 --> 00:04:54 interstellar object to be going that fast at

00:04:54 --> 00:04:56 that distance from the sun. The more data we

00:04:56 --> 00:04:59 get, the better we can measure the position

00:04:59 --> 00:05:01 of this object as it travels through the

00:05:01 --> 00:05:04 solar system and it moves out of it. But

00:05:04 --> 00:05:05 we also want to collect physical

00:05:05 --> 00:05:07 characterization data. For instance, we would

00:05:07 --> 00:05:09 like to understand better what the size of

00:05:09 --> 00:05:11 this object could the levels of activity.

00:05:11 --> 00:05:13 We're just bracing ourselves to get as much

00:05:13 --> 00:05:15 information as possible. We're really excited

00:05:15 --> 00:05:16 about these objects. So far we've discovered

00:05:16 --> 00:05:18 three interstellar objects. The first one was

00:05:18 --> 00:05:21 Oumuamua, um, in 2017, the second one

00:05:21 --> 00:05:23 Borisov in 2019 and now we have the third

00:05:23 --> 00:05:26 one, 3i Atlas. So it's a rare

00:05:26 --> 00:05:28 opportunity and uh, as a scientific community

00:05:28 --> 00:05:30 we want to collect as many data as possible

00:05:30 --> 00:05:33 to uh, characterise this object and learn as

00:05:33 --> 00:05:34 much as we can.

00:05:34 --> 00:05:36 Stuart Gary: That's David Fanasia from NASA's Jet

00:05:36 --> 00:05:38 Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena,

00:05:38 --> 00:05:41 California. And this is space

00:05:41 --> 00:05:44 time still to come, the nearby

00:05:44 --> 00:05:46 super Earth planet that may be a candidate

00:05:46 --> 00:05:49 for life and a new way to study the birth of

00:05:49 --> 00:05:51 the universe. All that and more still to come

00:05:52 --> 00:05:53 on, um, space time.

00:06:09 --> 00:06:11 Astronomers have taken a closer look at a

00:06:11 --> 00:06:13 nearby exoplanet, finding it may be more

00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 Earth like than previously thought. The

00:06:15 --> 00:06:17 planet, catalogued as GJ

00:06:17 --> 00:06:20 3378b, orbits a small

00:06:20 --> 00:06:23 spectral type M red dwarf star 25 light years

00:06:23 --> 00:06:24 away in the direction of the northern

00:06:24 --> 00:06:27 constellation Camilla Padalis. A report in

00:06:27 --> 00:06:30 the Astrophysical Journal claims the planet

00:06:30 --> 00:06:32 orbits within the star's habitable zone.

00:06:32 --> 00:06:33 That's the region where temperatures could

00:06:33 --> 00:06:35 allow liquid water to exist on a planet's

00:06:35 --> 00:06:38 surface, thereby making this planet a

00:06:38 --> 00:06:40 candidate to host life. The

00:06:40 --> 00:06:42 study's lead author, Paul Robertson from the

00:06:42 --> 00:06:45 University of California, Irvine, says the

00:06:45 --> 00:06:48 mantra is follow the water. It's the one

00:06:48 --> 00:06:50 thing every known living thing on Earth

00:06:50 --> 00:06:52 needs. So that's the first thing astronomers

00:06:52 --> 00:06:54 look for when trying to find environments

00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 that could sustain life, at least life as we

00:06:57 --> 00:06:59 know it. So Robertson and colleagues took

00:06:59 --> 00:07:01 a closer look and found that it may be more

00:07:01 --> 00:07:04 Earth like than they previously thought. Red

00:07:04 --> 00:07:06 dwarfs are the smallest, coolest group of

00:07:06 --> 00:07:08 stars. They have surface temperatures of

00:07:08 --> 00:07:11 around 2 to 3 degrees

00:07:11 --> 00:07:13 degrees that compares to the sun's 6

00:07:13 --> 00:07:16 degrees. They're also much smaller and dimmer

00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 than our sun and often appear reddish, hence

00:07:19 --> 00:07:21 their name. But red dwarfs are the most

00:07:21 --> 00:07:24 common type of star in the galaxy, making up

00:07:24 --> 00:07:27 some 70% of the entire galactic stellar

00:07:27 --> 00:07:29 population. However, the problem with red

00:07:29 --> 00:07:32 dwarfs is they tend to launch stellar flares

00:07:32 --> 00:07:35 far more often than sun like stars. And this

00:07:35 --> 00:07:37 intense stellar flare activity can erode a

00:07:37 --> 00:07:39 planet's atmosphere, irradiating its surface

00:07:39 --> 00:07:42 and any life that may be on that surface.

00:07:42 --> 00:07:44 Also, because these stars are so dim and

00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 Earth like planets are so small, they can be

00:07:47 --> 00:07:48 very difficult to detect and require

00:07:48 --> 00:07:51 specialised instrumentation. So to Learn

00:07:51 --> 00:07:54 more about JG3378B, the

00:07:54 --> 00:07:56 authors used the Habitable Zone Planet Finder

00:07:56 --> 00:07:58 instrument on the Hobby Eberley telescope at

00:07:58 --> 00:08:01 the McDonald Observatory in order to study

00:08:01 --> 00:08:04 its host star. As the planet orbits

00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 the star, its gravitational force tugs on the

00:08:06 --> 00:08:09 star. This creates a slight wobble, a

00:08:09 --> 00:08:11 Doppler shift, which is visible on the host

00:08:11 --> 00:08:14 star. And that Doppler shift can be used to

00:08:14 --> 00:08:16 calculate a planet's mass and orbit. The

00:08:16 --> 00:08:19 habitable zone Planet Finder is optimised to

00:08:19 --> 00:08:22 use infrared light. As a star gets smaller

00:08:22 --> 00:08:23 and they get cooler, most of their energy

00:08:23 --> 00:08:26 comes out in infrared wavelengths. So

00:08:26 --> 00:08:28 astronomers put an infrared spectrometer on

00:08:28 --> 00:08:31 the 10 metre telescope, giving them more raw

00:08:31 --> 00:08:33 light collecting power to observe these faint

00:08:33 --> 00:08:35 stars. GJ

00:08:35 --> 00:08:38 3378b is described as a super

00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 earth that is a terrestrial or rocky planet,

00:08:40 --> 00:08:43 larger than the Earth, but not so big as to

00:08:43 --> 00:08:45 hold onto a thick atmosphere that would crush

00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 any life on its surface. When the planet was

00:08:47 --> 00:08:50 first discovered in 2024, it was thought to

00:08:50 --> 00:08:52 be about five times the mass of the Earth.

00:08:52 --> 00:08:54 But this new analysis shows it's closer to

00:08:54 --> 00:08:57 around 2.3 times Earth's mass. And that

00:08:57 --> 00:08:59 change increases the likelihood that the

00:08:59 --> 00:09:02 planet doesn't hold a smothering atmosphere.

00:09:02 --> 00:09:04 The authors also refined the planet's orbit

00:09:04 --> 00:09:06 down from 25 Earth days to 21.

00:09:07 --> 00:09:09 Uh, even though both of these are tiny orbits

00:09:09 --> 00:09:10 compared to, in comparison, the Earth has a

00:09:10 --> 00:09:13 365 day orbit with a host star roughly a

00:09:13 --> 00:09:16 third the size of our sun. That proximity is

00:09:16 --> 00:09:18 necessary to place the planet within that

00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 star's habitable zone. Now, that said,

00:09:20 --> 00:09:23 its smaller orbit also subjects the planet to

00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 intense radiation which could evaporate any

00:09:25 --> 00:09:27 atmosphere present. So more

00:09:27 --> 00:09:30 observations will be needed for astronomers

00:09:30 --> 00:09:32 to be sure. This, uh, is space time

00:09:33 --> 00:09:36 still to come. A new way to study the birth

00:09:36 --> 00:09:38 of the universe. And later in the Science

00:09:38 --> 00:09:40 report, the discovery of a half billion year

00:09:40 --> 00:09:43 old fossil which has rewritten the origin

00:09:43 --> 00:09:46 storey of starfish. All that and more still

00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 to come on, um, space time.

00:09:53 --> 00:09:55 Scientists have discovered a new way to

00:09:55 --> 00:09:58 create a glide gluon plasma, the first matter

00:09:58 --> 00:10:01 to form in our universe. The findings,

00:10:01 --> 00:10:02 reported in the journal Physical Review

00:10:02 --> 00:10:05 Letters, opens a new window on the first

00:10:05 --> 00:10:08 microseconds after the big bang, 13.8

00:10:08 --> 00:10:10 billion years ago. What happened in those

00:10:10 --> 00:10:13 first moments of the universe, before the

00:10:13 --> 00:10:14 building blocks of life and the world as we

00:10:14 --> 00:10:17 know it came into existence? Physicists at

00:10:17 --> 00:10:20 cern, the European Organisation for Nuclear

00:10:20 --> 00:10:22 Research, are trying to answer this question

00:10:22 --> 00:10:24 by recreating some of the extreme conditions

00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 that prevailed in the universe at the very

00:10:26 --> 00:10:29 beginning of time. Now, researchers from the

00:10:29 --> 00:10:31 Niels Bohr Institute, together with

00:10:31 --> 00:10:33 colleagues from the alice collaboration at

00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 CERN's Large Hadron Collider, the world's

00:10:35 --> 00:10:37 biggest atom smasher have come one step

00:10:37 --> 00:10:39 closer to understanding those conditions.

00:10:40 --> 00:10:42 At CERN, uh, physicists collide atomic nuclei

00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 at some 999%

00:10:45 --> 00:10:47 the speed of light, in the process creating

00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 the tiny droplets of primordial matter that

00:10:50 --> 00:10:51 filled the universe during its first

00:10:51 --> 00:10:54 millionth of a second of creation. This

00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 substance is known as quark gluon plasma, and

00:10:57 --> 00:10:58 it's thought to have been the earliest form

00:10:58 --> 00:11:01 of matter in our universe. For many

00:11:01 --> 00:11:04 years, scientists have assumed that creating

00:11:04 --> 00:11:06 this plasma required collisions between very

00:11:06 --> 00:11:09 heavy atomic nuclei, such as leading.

00:11:09 --> 00:11:11 But physicists from the Niels Bohr Institute

00:11:11 --> 00:11:13 have now succeeded in creating this

00:11:13 --> 00:11:16 primordial matter by smashing much smaller

00:11:16 --> 00:11:18 nuclei of oxygen 16 and neon 20

00:11:18 --> 00:11:21 together. The study's lead author, uh Xiao

00:11:21 --> 00:11:23 Xu from the Niels Bohr Institute and the

00:11:23 --> 00:11:25 University of Copenhagen, says they've pushed

00:11:25 --> 00:11:27 the boundaries for how small the atomic

00:11:27 --> 00:11:30 nuclei can be while still recreating this

00:11:30 --> 00:11:33 quark gluon plasma. The discovery

00:11:33 --> 00:11:35 means scientists now know more about the

00:11:35 --> 00:11:37 fundamental conditions required required for

00:11:37 --> 00:11:40 matter to transition into this extreme state.

00:11:40 --> 00:11:42 This in turn will help researchers better

00:11:42 --> 00:11:45 understand how plasma behaved during the

00:11:45 --> 00:11:47 first moments of the universe and how it

00:11:47 --> 00:11:49 later evolved into the forms of matter that

00:11:49 --> 00:11:52 everything we see around us today is made of.

00:11:53 --> 00:11:55 When the atomic nuclei collide, their

00:11:55 --> 00:11:57 constituents, ah, are transformed into tiny

00:11:57 --> 00:12:00 droplets of quark gluon plasma that exist for

00:12:00 --> 00:12:03 just a fraction of a second. This droplet of

00:12:03 --> 00:12:05 extremely hot matter then expands.

00:12:06 --> 00:12:08 Researchers can't observe the plasma

00:12:08 --> 00:12:10 directly, but they can measure the particles

00:12:10 --> 00:12:12 that this matter turns into shortly

00:12:12 --> 00:12:15 afterwards. And the movement pattern of these

00:12:15 --> 00:12:17 particles reveals the shape of the atomic

00:12:17 --> 00:12:20 nucleus. Collisions between two oxygen

00:12:20 --> 00:12:22 nuclei produce a more rounded pattern, While

00:12:22 --> 00:12:25 collisions involving neon produce a more

00:12:25 --> 00:12:27 boiling pin shaped pattern. The particles

00:12:27 --> 00:12:29 from the primordial matter are, uh, directly

00:12:29 --> 00:12:31 governed by the geometric shape of their

00:12:31 --> 00:12:34 atomic nucleus. So if two atomic

00:12:34 --> 00:12:36 nuclei being smashed together are spherical,

00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 they'll produce one pattern. And if they're

00:12:38 --> 00:12:40 shaped like bowling pins, they'll produce

00:12:40 --> 00:12:42 another. By studying how the particles move

00:12:42 --> 00:12:44 after the collision, scientists can gain

00:12:44 --> 00:12:46 fresh insights into atomic nuclei that would

00:12:46 --> 00:12:49 otherwise be difficult to obtain. The authors

00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 describe it as being like shining a light on

00:12:51 --> 00:12:54 an object and seeing its shadow. You can't

00:12:54 --> 00:12:56 see the object directly, but its shadow

00:12:56 --> 00:12:58 reveals its shape. In the same way, the

00:12:58 --> 00:13:00 movement of these particles reveals reveals

00:13:00 --> 00:13:02 the geometric shape of the atomic nuclei

00:13:02 --> 00:13:04 present at the beginning of the collision.

00:13:04 --> 00:13:07 The shape of an atomic nucleus is not merely

00:13:07 --> 00:13:09 a matter of geometry. It reveals how

00:13:09 --> 00:13:11 protons and neutrons are organised and

00:13:11 --> 00:13:14 provides important information about the

00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 strong nuclear force, One of nature's four

00:13:16 --> 00:13:18 fundamental forces which scientists are still

00:13:18 --> 00:13:20 trying to fully understand. The others being

00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 the weak nuclear force, the electromagnetic

00:13:22 --> 00:13:25 force and gravity. That assumes, of course,

00:13:25 --> 00:13:28 that gravity really is a force, which it's

00:13:28 --> 00:13:30 probably not. Until now,

00:13:30 --> 00:13:32 physicists have primarily investigated

00:13:32 --> 00:13:34 nuclear structure at low energies by studying

00:13:34 --> 00:13:37 things like the rotation and vibration of

00:13:37 --> 00:13:40 atomic nuclei. Zhao says the precise

00:13:40 --> 00:13:42 understanding of nuclear structure helps

00:13:42 --> 00:13:44 scientists understand the strong nuclear

00:13:44 --> 00:13:46 force. But instead of carefully investigating

00:13:46 --> 00:13:48 nuclei at low energies, they've smashed

00:13:48 --> 00:13:50 together at the highest energies, allowing

00:13:50 --> 00:13:52 scientists to read their shape from the

00:13:52 --> 00:13:55 imprint they leave behind. Researchers still

00:13:55 --> 00:13:57 don't know the exact boundary when a quark,

00:13:57 --> 00:14:00 gluon, um, plasma can be created. So the next

00:14:00 --> 00:14:02 step will be to try experiments with even

00:14:02 --> 00:14:04 lighter nuclei, such as helium 4. The

00:14:04 --> 00:14:07 experiment will allow scientists to both

00:14:07 --> 00:14:09 learn about the structure of atomic nuclei

00:14:09 --> 00:14:11 and to gain a better understanding of what

00:14:11 --> 00:14:13 happened during the birth of the universe.

00:14:14 --> 00:14:16 And it turns out these two things may be much

00:14:16 --> 00:14:19 more closely connected than previously

00:14:19 --> 00:14:19 thought.

00:14:21 --> 00:14:22 This is space, time.

00:14:38 --> 00:14:40 And time outta. Take another brief look at

00:14:40 --> 00:14:41 some of the other storeys making news in

00:14:41 --> 00:14:43 Science this week with the Science Report.

00:14:44 --> 00:14:47 A major sexual health clinic in Melbourne has

00:14:47 --> 00:14:49 seen an almost doubling over the past decade

00:14:49 --> 00:14:51 of women testing positive for gonorrhoea.

00:14:52 --> 00:14:53 The authors analysed data from the clinic

00:14:53 --> 00:14:56 between 2015 and 2024, looking for the

00:14:56 --> 00:14:58 characteristics of women contracting

00:14:58 --> 00:15:00 gonorrhoea amid a rise in sexually

00:15:00 --> 00:15:02 transmitted diseases among women in Melbourne

00:15:02 --> 00:15:05 in recent years. The findings reported in the

00:15:05 --> 00:15:07 journal Sexual Health Cher gonorrhoea cases

00:15:07 --> 00:15:10 increased from 1.3% in 2015 to

00:15:10 --> 00:15:13 2.3% in 2024. The

00:15:13 --> 00:15:15 authors say the women diagnosed were

00:15:15 --> 00:15:17 predominantly young, had multiple casual male

00:15:17 --> 00:15:19 partners and used condoms in contemporary

00:15:19 --> 00:15:22 Consistently oral gonorrhoea saw the largest

00:15:22 --> 00:15:25 increase in cases during the study. Most of

00:15:25 --> 00:15:27 these cases are asymptomatic and can only be

00:15:27 --> 00:15:29 picked up through regular screening.

00:15:30 --> 00:15:32 The New South Wales State government has just

00:15:32 --> 00:15:34 passed new legislation allowing people to

00:15:34 --> 00:15:37 drive when under the influence of medicinal

00:15:37 --> 00:15:40 cannabis. The passing of this bill comes as

00:15:40 --> 00:15:42 Canadian researchers have analysed 40 regular

00:15:42 --> 00:15:45 edible cannabis users testing their driving

00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 skills in a simulator before and after eating

00:15:47 --> 00:15:50 THC gummies. The findings reported

00:15:50 --> 00:15:52 in the Journal of the American Medical

00:15:52 --> 00:15:54 association show that higher doses of

00:15:54 --> 00:15:57 THC led to poorer lane control, slower

00:15:57 --> 00:16:00 reaction times and less consistent speeds.

00:16:00 --> 00:16:02 And um, that's despite the participants blood

00:16:02 --> 00:16:04 tests showed they remained below the legal

00:16:04 --> 00:16:07 thresholds for driving with cannabis in

00:16:07 --> 00:16:09 Canada, New Zealand and now New South Wales.

00:16:09 --> 00:16:12 That legal limit is 5 nanograms per

00:16:12 --> 00:16:14 millilitre. Human

00:16:14 --> 00:16:17 pollution affects our entire planet,

00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 destroying environments wherever people go

00:16:20 --> 00:16:22 Now a report in the journal PLOS ONE

00:16:22 --> 00:16:24 describes how researchers have found plastic

00:16:24 --> 00:16:26 litter on more than half of their remotely

00:16:26 --> 00:16:28 operated dives to the bottom of the Mardel

00:16:28 --> 00:16:31 Plata canyon near Argentina, three kilometres

00:16:31 --> 00:16:34 below the sea surface. After 17

00:16:34 --> 00:16:37 dives in 2025, scientists analysed

00:16:37 --> 00:16:39 approximately 240 hours of video footage,

00:16:39 --> 00:16:41 finding some stationary creatures like

00:16:41 --> 00:16:44 starfish and corals had attached to the trash

00:16:44 --> 00:16:46 dumped by humans, including packets of fried

00:16:46 --> 00:16:49 noodles, plastic cups and even old boots.

00:16:49 --> 00:16:51 A few months earlier, expeditions found cans

00:16:51 --> 00:16:53 and plastic bags on the bottom of the Mariana

00:16:53 --> 00:16:56 Trench, the planet's deepest fissure in the

00:16:56 --> 00:16:57 western Pacific Ocean.

00:16:59 --> 00:17:01 The discovery of a half billion year old

00:17:01 --> 00:17:03 fossil has rewritten the origin history of

00:17:03 --> 00:17:06 starfish. Palaeontologists uncovered the

00:17:06 --> 00:17:09 518 million year old remains in southwestern

00:17:09 --> 00:17:11 China. It comes from a period of rapid

00:17:11 --> 00:17:13 evolutionary development known as the

00:17:13 --> 00:17:15 Cambrian Explosion, when most major animal

00:17:15 --> 00:17:17 groups first appeared in the fossil record.

00:17:18 --> 00:17:20 The new find, named Eugenia glunitotinica,

00:17:20 --> 00:17:23 uh, are thought to be closely related to the

00:17:23 --> 00:17:25 last common ancestor of Ambula clarians, the

00:17:25 --> 00:17:28 modern group that includes starfish, sea

00:17:28 --> 00:17:30 stars, sea urchins and acorn worms.

00:17:30 --> 00:17:33 A report in the journal Current Biology shows

00:17:33 --> 00:17:35 the new discovery ate their food using

00:17:35 --> 00:17:37 tentacles and not passively using their gills

00:17:37 --> 00:17:40 as previously thought. A,

00:17:40 --> 00:17:42 uh, pseudoscience and UFO researcher says

00:17:42 --> 00:17:45 he's uncovered evidence that four different

00:17:45 --> 00:17:47 types of extraterrestrial alien species have

00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 visited our planet. Hal Putoff, a

00:17:50 --> 00:17:52 former Advanced Aerospace Weapons System

00:17:52 --> 00:17:55 Applications programme advisor and CIA funded

00:17:55 --> 00:17:57 researcher, uh, claims bodies of four

00:17:57 --> 00:17:59 different species have been recovered from

00:17:59 --> 00:18:01 various UFO crashes by the US government.

00:18:01 --> 00:18:03 But as the sceptics Timms Mendham points out,

00:18:03 --> 00:18:06 uh, he's provided no evidence to support his

00:18:06 --> 00:18:06 claims.

00:18:06 --> 00:18:08 Tim Mendham: They all look a bit humanoid, which is, I

00:18:08 --> 00:18:09 don't know, to me, surprising. I don't know

00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 why aliens always have to look like humans.

00:18:11 --> 00:18:13 Now to our octopus people. No, no, no

00:18:14 --> 00:18:16 sentient bacteria or anything like that.

00:18:16 --> 00:18:17 There's the lizard people who look like

00:18:17 --> 00:18:19 lizards have tails. Uh, there's the Nordic

00:18:19 --> 00:18:21 who look very sort of glamour Norwegian

00:18:21 --> 00:18:23 looking people. There's the insect people who

00:18:23 --> 00:18:25 are a bit scary, look like praying mantises,

00:18:25 --> 00:18:27 um, and of course there's the greys, the

00:18:27 --> 00:18:30 cliched modern looking little people, big

00:18:30 --> 00:18:31 heads, big eyes, that sort of thing. They all

00:18:31 --> 00:18:34 have sort of hands, fingers, five, obviously

00:18:34 --> 00:18:37 scary in some cases, some cases benign. You

00:18:37 --> 00:18:38 got to look at the people who are promoting

00:18:38 --> 00:18:39 this stuff. I mean, obviously there's no

00:18:39 --> 00:18:41 evidence for it at all. There's just

00:18:41 --> 00:18:43 conjecture, made up, cliches, memes,

00:18:43 --> 00:18:45 whatever. Some of the people promoting it,

00:18:45 --> 00:18:47 one in particular recently is Dr. Hal

00:18:47 --> 00:18:50 Puthoff, who was a former

00:18:50 --> 00:18:52 Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems

00:18:52 --> 00:18:54 Application programme revisor for it. He was

00:18:54 --> 00:18:56 also involved in a place called the Stanford

00:18:56 --> 00:18:59 Research Institute back in the 70s with a uh,

00:18:59 --> 00:19:00 Harold Targ partner, uh, who were

00:19:00 --> 00:19:02 investigating Uri Geller. And they came out

00:19:02 --> 00:19:04 very much in favour of Uri Geller, saying he

00:19:04 --> 00:19:06 had definite spoon bending talents and all

00:19:06 --> 00:19:08 sorts of psychic powers and things. The

00:19:08 --> 00:19:10 protocols that they used in their laboratory

00:19:10 --> 00:19:12 testing were very dodgy or at least

00:19:12 --> 00:19:13 questionable, let's put it that way. And

00:19:13 --> 00:19:15 certainly someone as sceptic is noted as

00:19:15 --> 00:19:17 James Randi. The late James Randi described

00:19:17 --> 00:19:19 them as the Laurel and Hardy of uh,

00:19:19 --> 00:19:22 parapsychology research. But he has come out

00:19:22 --> 00:19:23 recently and said that there is definitely

00:19:23 --> 00:19:26 these four types of UFO occupants. He

00:19:26 --> 00:19:28 hasn't seen them of course, but he's heard of

00:19:28 --> 00:19:31 them. He said testimony from members of

00:19:31 --> 00:19:33 supposed crash retrieval programmes who tend

00:19:33 --> 00:19:35 not to come forward to actually talk about

00:19:35 --> 00:19:37 their work because they fear for their lives.

00:19:37 --> 00:19:38 It's annoying that all these people with

00:19:38 --> 00:19:40 evidence don't come forward with it. So

00:19:40 --> 00:19:42 therefore you have to say, well what evidence

00:19:42 --> 00:19:43 do they have? I could say the, the moon is

00:19:43 --> 00:19:45 made of cheese. And people say where's the

00:19:45 --> 00:19:46 evidence? Well I can't give it to you because

00:19:46 --> 00:19:48 it's secret, you know. And you say right,

00:19:48 --> 00:19:50 okay, I'm supposed to believe that. So all

00:19:50 --> 00:19:52 these people who are claiming UFOs and they

00:19:52 --> 00:19:54 know of someone who know of someone who knows

00:19:54 --> 00:19:56 of someone who has seen these occupants of

00:19:57 --> 00:19:59 interplanetary uh, craft, there's no evidence

00:19:59 --> 00:19:59 for it.

00:19:59 --> 00:20:01 And you get people like Al Puthoff who might

00:20:01 --> 00:20:03 be going through attention deficit disorder.

00:20:03 --> 00:20:05 He wants to sort of put his hand up again

00:20:05 --> 00:20:07 even in his aged years or something because

00:20:07 --> 00:20:09 he has been around a long time, since the

00:20:09 --> 00:20:12 early 70s. His record is not crash shot. So

00:20:12 --> 00:20:14 as a source of information, despite the fact

00:20:14 --> 00:20:16 he supposedly has this sort of research

00:20:16 --> 00:20:18 background, it's not necessarily as exciting

00:20:18 --> 00:20:20 as it might sound to be. Not necessarily as

00:20:20 --> 00:20:22 respectable, uh, or reliable as it might

00:20:22 --> 00:20:24 sound to be. Saying I worked with the CIA on

00:20:24 --> 00:20:26 uh, projects in the 70s is nothing

00:20:26 --> 00:20:28 particularly exciting. So you see I was

00:20:28 --> 00:20:30 funding anything going and came out with

00:20:30 --> 00:20:32 nothing at the end. But anyway, Hal put off

00:20:32 --> 00:20:33 you're saying there's four, um, different

00:20:33 --> 00:20:36 types of aliens, all of whom look humanish.

00:20:36 --> 00:20:38 And uh, none of them any evidence for them at

00:20:38 --> 00:20:40 all. There was a documentary made about

00:20:40 --> 00:20:42 disclosure things. This is before the.

00:20:42 --> 00:20:43 Stuart Gary: Let's call it a mockumentary.

00:20:43 --> 00:20:45 Tim Mendham: It's a, it's a mockumentary with nothing new.

00:20:45 --> 00:20:48 It's Age of Disclosure had a lot of puffery

00:20:48 --> 00:20:50 before it came out and people have seen it

00:20:50 --> 00:20:52 say there's nothing new there. It's all the

00:20:52 --> 00:20:54 same old same old, same characters who keep

00:20:54 --> 00:20:55 appearing and being interviewed. Of course

00:20:55 --> 00:20:57 it's going to it's a preamble to the film,

00:20:57 --> 00:20:59 Spielberg film called Disclosure talks about

00:20:59 --> 00:21:01 alien interaction with people, etc. All sorts

00:21:01 --> 00:21:03 of, you know, they walk among us type things.

00:21:03 --> 00:21:05 No real evidence and a lot of claims but no

00:21:05 --> 00:21:07 evidence. And that goes on has been going on

00:21:07 --> 00:21:10 since the 1940s and every researcher of UFOs

00:21:10 --> 00:21:12 has always said any day now is going to be

00:21:12 --> 00:21:15 the great reveal. And that day has never

00:21:15 --> 00:21:17 arisen. So we're waiting. They've never

00:21:17 --> 00:21:20 presented, never presented any irrefutable

00:21:20 --> 00:21:22 anything close to irrefutable evidence. Just

00:21:22 --> 00:21:22 claims.

00:21:22 --> 00:21:24 Stuart Gary: That's the sceptics. Timms Mendham and this

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