Cosmic Colour: The Discovery of the Universe's First Ghostly Green Star
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Cosmic Colour: The Discovery of the Universe's First Ghostly Green Star

Wednesday SpaceTime 20261021 Series 29 Episode 126 The first star in the universe that glows ghostly green Astronomers have discovered the first star in the universe that glows ghostly green. The star is a white dwarf located some 284 light-years away. A major upgrade for gravitational wave detection The Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory LIGO, is undergoing a major upgrade with the application of a new Australian optical coating for their beam splitters. A new era of nuclear-powered space exploration NASA’s Artemis program to return people to the Moon and eventually onto Mars has moved a step closer to a nuclear powered future. The Science Report Claims playing your favourite music can lessen the amount of pain you experience. Boeing to build the US Navy’s new F/A-XX multirole strike fighter jets. A new species of meat-eating dinosaur identified from fossils in a UK museum. Archaeologists unearth a 2,000-year-old section of aqueduct in Jerusalem. Alex on Tech has AI achieved consciousness – is the singularity here. 🌏 Get Our Exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.bitesz.com/nordvpn . The discounts and bonuses are incredible! And it’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! ✌ If you’d like to support the podcast and gain access to bonus content by becoming a SpaceTime crew member, you can do just that through The Big Bang editions on Patreon, Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Details on the Support page on our website https://www.bitesz.com/show/spacetime/support/


00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 Stuart Gary: This is space time series 29 episode

00:00:02 --> 00:00:05 126 for broadcast on 21st

00:00:05 --> 00:00:08 October 2026. Coming up on

00:00:08 --> 00:00:10 Space, discovery of the first star in the

00:00:10 --> 00:00:13 universe that glows a ghostly green.

00:00:13 --> 00:00:16 A ah, major upgrade for gravitational wave

00:00:16 --> 00:00:18 detection and a new era of

00:00:18 --> 00:00:21 nuclear powered space exploration on its way.

00:00:22 --> 00:00:24 All that and more coming up on, um, Space

00:00:24 --> 00:00:27 Time. Welcome to

00:00:27 --> 00:00:29 Space Time with Stuart G.

00:00:46 --> 00:00:48 Astronomers have discovered the first star in

00:00:48 --> 00:00:50 the universe that glows a ghostly green.

00:00:51 --> 00:00:53 The star is a white dwarf catalogued as WD

00:00:53 --> 00:00:56 J 13306435

00:00:56 --> 00:00:59 and located some 284 light years away.

00:01:00 --> 00:01:02 White dwarfs are the exposed whiteout stellar

00:01:02 --> 00:01:05 cores of sun like stars at the ends of their

00:01:05 --> 00:01:08 lives. These new observations reported in the

00:01:08 --> 00:01:09 Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society

00:01:09 --> 00:01:12 show that white dwarfs actually glow in a

00:01:12 --> 00:01:14 remarkably wide range of colours. For

00:01:14 --> 00:01:17 astronomers studying stars, colour is a guide

00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 to temperature. Cooler stars look red or

00:01:20 --> 00:01:22 orange, while stars like our uh, sun are

00:01:22 --> 00:01:24 yellow and the hotter stars glow white or

00:01:24 --> 00:01:27 blue. It was always thought white dwarfs

00:01:27 --> 00:01:29 follow the same rule. In fact they earned

00:01:29 --> 00:01:31 their name because the earliest examples were

00:01:31 --> 00:01:33 found to be surprisingly hot and they glowed

00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 a white, pale blue. But according

00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 to the studies lead author uh, Mark Hollins

00:01:39 --> 00:01:40 from the University of Warwick, if

00:01:40 --> 00:01:42 astronomers could actually view them up

00:01:42 --> 00:01:44 close, some white dwarfs would shine in a

00:01:44 --> 00:01:46 variety of different colours, including

00:01:46 --> 00:01:49 green, pink, cyan, yellow and purple.

00:01:49 --> 00:01:52 He says most stars, including most white

00:01:52 --> 00:01:54 dwarves, behave like perfect blackbody

00:01:54 --> 00:01:56 radiators. So their colour is set almost

00:01:56 --> 00:01:59 entirely by temperature. But it turns out

00:01:59 --> 00:02:02 these incredibly dense white dwarf stars can

00:02:02 --> 00:02:04 produce colours nobody ever expected. By the

00:02:04 --> 00:02:06 way, a perfect blackbody radiator, well

00:02:06 --> 00:02:08 that's an idealised object that absorbs all

00:02:08 --> 00:02:10 the electromagnetic radiation that hits it.

00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 There is no reflection, no transmission and

00:02:13 --> 00:02:15 so black bodies only emit the maximum

00:02:15 --> 00:02:17 possible thermal radiation for their

00:02:17 --> 00:02:20 temperature. Holland says the key to a

00:02:20 --> 00:02:22 white dwarf's real colour is density. The

00:02:22 --> 00:02:24 coolest white dwarf atmospheres can reach

00:02:24 --> 00:02:27 around 1 gramme per cubic centimetre, roughly

00:02:27 --> 00:02:29 the density of water and millions of times

00:02:29 --> 00:02:31 denser than the the sun's photosphere. In

00:02:31 --> 00:02:34 these conditions, any trace elements that may

00:02:34 --> 00:02:36 be present, such as carbon, calcium and

00:02:36 --> 00:02:38 sodium, interact with the surrounding dense

00:02:38 --> 00:02:41 helium plasma, absorbing light across a wider

00:02:41 --> 00:02:42 range of colours than what they would at

00:02:42 --> 00:02:45 lower densities. And so this shifts the

00:02:45 --> 00:02:47 star's true colour away from the usual

00:02:47 --> 00:02:50 whitish appearance. The authors calculated

00:02:50 --> 00:02:52 the true colour of a group of white dwarves

00:02:52 --> 00:02:54 by running their stellar spectra through a

00:02:54 --> 00:02:56 model of human colour vision in order to

00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 reveal what colour each star's light would

00:02:58 --> 00:03:01 appear to the average unaided eye. And

00:03:01 --> 00:03:03 Hollins and colleagues found their colours

00:03:03 --> 00:03:05 fall into distinct groups, each linked to

00:03:05 --> 00:03:08 what's in the star's atmosphere. Carbon rich

00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 white dwarfs are typically pink or purple in

00:03:10 --> 00:03:12 colour, while those enriched with debris from

00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 scattered asteroids or comets or the remains

00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 of old planetary systems tend more towards

00:03:16 --> 00:03:19 yellow. Cooler white dwarfs with mixed

00:03:19 --> 00:03:21 hydrogen and helium atmospheres often take on

00:03:21 --> 00:03:24 a cyan or pale blue tinge that's caused

00:03:24 --> 00:03:26 by hydrogen molecules colliding with helium

00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 atoms in their ultra dense atmospheres. But

00:03:29 --> 00:03:31 the authors found the most striking example

00:03:31 --> 00:03:33 was a star called WDJ

00:03:33 --> 00:03:36 1336435, which

00:03:36 --> 00:03:38 has a surface temperature of roughly 4

00:03:38 --> 00:03:40 degrees Celsius and has accreted rocky

00:03:40 --> 00:03:43 material from its planetary system. This has

00:03:43 --> 00:03:46 enriched its atmosphere with calcium, lithium

00:03:46 --> 00:03:48 and sodium, giving it a chartreuse green

00:03:48 --> 00:03:50 appearance. In the author's models, the

00:03:50 --> 00:03:52 traces of sodium in the atmosphere of this

00:03:52 --> 00:03:55 white dwarf absorb the orange part of the

00:03:55 --> 00:03:57 spectrum, leaving behind the ghostly green

00:03:57 --> 00:04:00 glow. At the opposite extreme, Hollins and

00:04:00 --> 00:04:02 colleagues identified what may be the reddest

00:04:02 --> 00:04:04 star ever recorded. WD

00:04:04 --> 00:04:06 J1011 2845, a

00:04:06 --> 00:04:09 nearby white dwarf just 48 light years away,

00:04:09 --> 00:04:11 has a deep convection zone that's lifted

00:04:11 --> 00:04:14 carbon from its core up to its surface. The

00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 resulting carbon molecules distort the star's

00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 light so heavily that almost all of it

00:04:18 --> 00:04:20 squeezed into wavelengths beyond 600

00:04:20 --> 00:04:23 nanometers, producing a deep salmon pink glow

00:04:23 --> 00:04:25 unlike anything seen in an ordinary star.

00:04:26 --> 00:04:28 The authors also studied a representative

00:04:28 --> 00:04:31 sample. Some 151 white dwarves within

00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 65 light years of the earth. Uh,

00:04:34 --> 00:04:36 five showed unusual colourings.

00:04:36 --> 00:04:39 Two yellow, three pink. This suggests that

00:04:39 --> 00:04:41 roughly one in 30 white dwarfs will shine

00:04:41 --> 00:04:44 with an unusually coloured light. As for the

00:04:44 --> 00:04:46 remaining 146, well, the authors measured the

00:04:46 --> 00:04:49 colour temperature, finding them to really do

00:04:49 --> 00:04:51 appear, ah, to be white. This is space time

00:04:52 --> 00:04:55 still to come, a major upgrade for

00:04:55 --> 00:04:58 gravitational wave detection and a new

00:04:58 --> 00:05:00 era of nuclear powered space exploration on

00:05:00 --> 00:05:03 its way. All that and more still to come on,

00:05:03 --> 00:05:04 uh, space time.

00:05:13 --> 00:05:16 The Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave

00:05:16 --> 00:05:18 Observatory LIGO is undergoing a major

00:05:18 --> 00:05:20 upgrade with the application of a new

00:05:20 --> 00:05:22 Australian developed optical coating for the

00:05:22 --> 00:05:25 beam splitters first predicted by Albert

00:05:25 --> 00:05:28 Einstein back in 1916 as a consequence of

00:05:28 --> 00:05:29 his general theory of relativity.

00:05:29 --> 00:05:32 Gravitational waves are ripples through the

00:05:32 --> 00:05:34 fabric of spacetime caused by the movement of

00:05:34 --> 00:05:36 massive objects such as the collision of

00:05:36 --> 00:05:39 black holes or neutron stars. The LIGO

00:05:39 --> 00:05:42 Observatory comprises two identical

00:05:42 --> 00:05:44 facilities, one in Livingston, Louisiana, the

00:05:44 --> 00:05:47 other at Hanford in Washington State. Each

00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 LIGO observatory fires precision lasers into

00:05:50 --> 00:05:52 A beam splitter, uh, which then shoots the

00:05:52 --> 00:05:54 beams along two perpendicular four kilometre

00:05:54 --> 00:05:57 long tubes equipped with mirrored test masses

00:05:57 --> 00:06:00 at each end. The reflected laser light is

00:06:00 --> 00:06:01 then sent back to the detector, uh, where

00:06:01 --> 00:06:03 eventually they should theoretically

00:06:03 --> 00:06:06 recombine. As a gravity wave passes through

00:06:06 --> 00:06:08 the cosmos, it causes the fabric of space

00:06:08 --> 00:06:11 time to stretch and compress ever so slightly

00:06:11 --> 00:06:13 by just a fraction of the diameter of a

00:06:13 --> 00:06:15 proton, less than a millionth of a billionth

00:06:15 --> 00:06:18 of the diameter of a human hair. When a

00:06:18 --> 00:06:20 gravitational wave passes through the LIGO

00:06:20 --> 00:06:23 detector, local space time, including the two

00:06:23 --> 00:06:25 beamlines and the test masses are also

00:06:25 --> 00:06:27 stretched and compressed ever so slightly,

00:06:27 --> 00:06:29 slightly leaving them out of phase. And

00:06:29 --> 00:06:31 that's the signature of a gravitational wave

00:06:31 --> 00:06:34 event. Using multiple gravitational wave

00:06:34 --> 00:06:36 detectors allows scientists to determine the

00:06:36 --> 00:06:39 direction of the wave source. The addition of

00:06:39 --> 00:06:41 the third detector, called Virgo, located

00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 near Pisa in northern Italy, and Japan's

00:06:44 --> 00:06:46 Kamioka detector have further improved

00:06:46 --> 00:06:49 detection. Each beam Splitter is a

00:06:49 --> 00:06:51 45 centimetre disc made from the purest

00:06:51 --> 00:06:54 glass ever produced. Weighing around 20

00:06:54 --> 00:06:56 kilogrammes, the coating on one side splits

00:06:56 --> 00:06:59 the pure laser beam light precisely in half.

00:07:00 --> 00:07:02 On the other, an ultra low reflectivity

00:07:02 --> 00:07:05 coating, over a thousand times more effective

00:07:05 --> 00:07:07 than an ordinary eyeglass lens coating,

00:07:07 --> 00:07:09 minimises interference and improves detector

00:07:09 --> 00:07:12 sensitivity. One of the researchers behind

00:07:12 --> 00:07:14 the development of the new optical coatings,

00:07:14 --> 00:07:16 Professor Steve Madden from the Australian

00:07:16 --> 00:07:18 National University, says it will allow

00:07:18 --> 00:07:20 scientists to detect gravitational waves with

00:07:20 --> 00:07:23 greater sensitivity than ever before. He

00:07:23 --> 00:07:25 says these are some of the most exciting and

00:07:25 --> 00:07:28 precise coatings ever made. In fact, Madden

00:07:28 --> 00:07:30 and colleagues spent more than three years

00:07:30 --> 00:07:32 researching and developing the nanometer thin

00:07:32 --> 00:07:34 coatings, which are just a few atoms thick

00:07:34 --> 00:07:36 and uh, which have driven precision optics to

00:07:36 --> 00:07:39 unprecedented levels. They are one of only

00:07:39 --> 00:07:41 two groups in the world capable of producing

00:07:41 --> 00:07:43 these coatings to the exacting standards

00:07:43 --> 00:07:45 required for gravitational wave detection.

00:07:46 --> 00:07:48 To achieve this, the team developed eight

00:07:48 --> 00:07:50 custom automated systems to clean, measure

00:07:50 --> 00:07:52 and handle the delicate components without

00:07:52 --> 00:07:55 any human contact. Madden says the

00:07:55 --> 00:07:57 upgraded detectors will pick up more

00:07:57 --> 00:07:59 gravitational wave events, including weaker

00:07:59 --> 00:08:01 signals from further away, allowing

00:08:01 --> 00:08:04 astronomers to study the behaviour of some of

00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 the universe's most mysterious objects in far

00:08:06 --> 00:08:08 greater detail than ever before.

00:08:08 --> 00:08:11 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: LIGO is probably the most sensitive

00:08:11 --> 00:08:13 distance measurement ever made on Earth,

00:08:13 --> 00:08:16 where basically we're looking for the

00:08:16 --> 00:08:19 distortion that the gravitational waves from

00:08:19 --> 00:08:22 merges of black holes, for example, when they

00:08:22 --> 00:08:24 merge together they create a massive

00:08:24 --> 00:08:26 disturbance in spacetime, propagates out

00:08:26 --> 00:08:29 through the universe and that disturbance

00:08:29 --> 00:08:31 manifests on Earth, uh, as a slight

00:08:31 --> 00:08:33 distortion in distances very,

00:08:33 --> 00:08:36 very tiny amounts we're talking about here

00:08:36 --> 00:08:39 like 10 to the minus 24 metres. And so

00:08:39 --> 00:08:42 LIGO is a laser interferometer device

00:08:42 --> 00:08:45 designed to detect those very tiny changes

00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 in distance. But to do so it needs some

00:08:47 --> 00:08:50 really, really complex technology and

00:08:50 --> 00:08:53 really high performance components. And

00:08:53 --> 00:08:56 in any interferometer, we're basically taking

00:08:56 --> 00:08:59 a laser beam, dividing it into half, sending

00:08:59 --> 00:09:01 each half down a separate path and then

00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 recombining them and picking up any

00:09:03 --> 00:09:06 difference in the two path lengths that we

00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 just came back through. So the beam split is

00:09:08 --> 00:09:11 a really key component here. And as it first

00:09:11 --> 00:09:13 of all splits the light very, uh, very

00:09:14 --> 00:09:16 equally, which enhances the level of signal

00:09:16 --> 00:09:19 that we get back the more equal those, those

00:09:19 --> 00:09:21 two powers in each, um, arm are. And

00:09:21 --> 00:09:24 then it also provides the function of

00:09:24 --> 00:09:26 recombining them so that we can detect the

00:09:26 --> 00:09:28 difference in the two arms. So the beam

00:09:28 --> 00:09:31 splitter has two sides. One splits the

00:09:31 --> 00:09:33 laser equally and the other side has to be

00:09:33 --> 00:09:35 coated with an anti reflection coating like

00:09:35 --> 00:09:38 we have on our spectacle lenses. Except this

00:09:38 --> 00:09:40 coating is like a thousand times better

00:09:40 --> 00:09:42 because any stray reflections inside the beam

00:09:42 --> 00:09:44 splitter degrade the signal very

00:09:44 --> 00:09:46 significantly. So that anti reflection

00:09:46 --> 00:09:49 coating has to be basically almost perfect.

00:09:49 --> 00:09:51 Stuart Gary: Tell me about the coating. What's it made out

00:09:51 --> 00:09:51 of?

00:09:51 --> 00:09:53 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Well, the coatings made out of a sequence of

00:09:54 --> 00:09:56 different layers of silica. So

00:09:56 --> 00:09:59 silicon dioxide, like sand on the beach, just

00:09:59 --> 00:10:01 much, much purer. And something called

00:10:01 --> 00:10:04 tantalum pentoxide, which is an oxide of the

00:10:04 --> 00:10:05 metal tantalum.

00:10:05 --> 00:10:07 Stuart Gary: I take it you just don't slap it on. It's got

00:10:07 --> 00:10:08 to be applied in a special way?

00:10:08 --> 00:10:11 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Oh, yes. The application is

00:10:11 --> 00:10:14 done in a very large vacuum system. And,

00:10:14 --> 00:10:16 uh, basically we use a process called ion

00:10:16 --> 00:10:19 beam sputtering. And what happens here is

00:10:19 --> 00:10:21 that we have a gun that has a discharge

00:10:21 --> 00:10:24 plasma of oxygen and argon inside

00:10:24 --> 00:10:27 and there is various grids, uh, in there that

00:10:27 --> 00:10:30 extract the charged ions out and

00:10:30 --> 00:10:32 accelerate them to about 1200 volts

00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 and then neutralise. So we have, uh, instead

00:10:35 --> 00:10:37 of an actual. The name's a bit of a misnomer.

00:10:37 --> 00:10:39 It's not actually an ion beam, it's a neutral

00:10:39 --> 00:10:42 beam, but it's formed via an ion process. So

00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 you've got these energetic oxygen and argon

00:10:45 --> 00:10:48 atoms flying at quite high velocity towards

00:10:48 --> 00:10:50 a large target material. And the target

00:10:50 --> 00:10:53 materials are either silicon dioxide or a

00:10:53 --> 00:10:55 metallic tantalum target. And they impact

00:10:55 --> 00:10:58 the surface and they knock atoms off that

00:10:58 --> 00:11:01 target. And those atoms then

00:11:01 --> 00:11:04 are also oxidised by the presence of oxygen

00:11:04 --> 00:11:07 in the vacuum. And those particles themselves

00:11:07 --> 00:11:09 because they've sort of been knocked off by

00:11:09 --> 00:11:11 something else moving at high velocity. If

00:11:11 --> 00:11:13 you like, they have a rebound velocity of

00:11:13 --> 00:11:15 their own, so they fly away from the target

00:11:15 --> 00:11:18 and then deposit onto the substrate that

00:11:18 --> 00:11:19 we're going to coat.

00:11:19 --> 00:11:21 Stuart Gary: So you're literally adding atom by atom,

00:11:21 --> 00:11:22 essentially.

00:11:22 --> 00:11:24 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Yes. And um, the name of the game,

00:11:24 --> 00:11:27 particularly with ligo, the substrates that

00:11:27 --> 00:11:30 we're using, some of the purest glass ever

00:11:30 --> 00:11:32 made and they're uh, about half a metre in

00:11:32 --> 00:11:34 diameter. And the big challenge here is to

00:11:34 --> 00:11:37 get the uniformity over something of that

00:11:37 --> 00:11:39 size and to get the precision of the

00:11:39 --> 00:11:42 thickness of the individual layers. So we're

00:11:42 --> 00:11:44 talking about trying to achieve uniformity to

00:11:44 --> 00:11:46 a few atomic layers across the entire

00:11:46 --> 00:11:49 substrate and to target similar levels of

00:11:49 --> 00:11:51 accuracy in the thickness of each layer. So

00:11:51 --> 00:11:54 it's actually really, really hard to do that.

00:11:54 --> 00:11:57 Stuart Gary: And this will replace the existing, uh, beam

00:11:57 --> 00:11:59 splitter coatings. Do you replace the whole

00:11:59 --> 00:12:01 beam splitter or what happens now?

00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: The whole beam splitter is replaced. They

00:12:03 --> 00:12:05 wanted to have bigger beam splitters in there

00:12:05 --> 00:12:06 because they want to be able to move the

00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 beams around inside the um,

00:12:09 --> 00:12:12 whole system. And the existing beam splitters

00:12:12 --> 00:12:14 didn't really have very much real estate for

00:12:14 --> 00:12:17 this so uh, they had to go to new larger and

00:12:17 --> 00:12:18 these literally called the big beam

00:12:18 --> 00:12:19 splitters.

00:12:19 --> 00:12:21 Stuart Gary: And this will let us see even finer

00:12:21 --> 00:12:23 details in terms of the movement of the

00:12:23 --> 00:12:25 fabric of space time itself. Wow.

00:12:25 --> 00:12:28 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Uh, yep, Finer and further away,

00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 there's about a factor of two improvement in

00:12:30 --> 00:12:31 the seeing distance.

00:12:31 --> 00:12:33 Stuart Gary: I think that's Professor Steve Madden from

00:12:33 --> 00:12:35 the Australian National University.

00:12:36 --> 00:12:39 And this is space time still

00:12:39 --> 00:12:41 to come. A new era of nuclear powered space

00:12:41 --> 00:12:44 exploration on its way. Later in the science

00:12:44 --> 00:12:46 report, Boeing awarded the contract to build

00:12:46 --> 00:12:49 the US Navy's new FAX Multi Role

00:12:49 --> 00:12:52 fighter aircraft. All that and more still to

00:12:52 --> 00:12:54 calm down on space time,

00:13:09 --> 00:13:12 NASA's Artemis programme, designed to return

00:13:12 --> 00:13:14 people to the moon and eventually onto Mars

00:13:14 --> 00:13:17 and beyond, has now moved a step closer to a

00:13:17 --> 00:13:20 nuclear powered future. NASA and the United

00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 States Department of Energy have just signed

00:13:22 --> 00:13:24 a new memorandum of understanding to develop

00:13:24 --> 00:13:26 next generation nuclear technologies for

00:13:26 --> 00:13:29 space. NASA Administrator Jared

00:13:29 --> 00:13:31 Isaacman says the research will see the

00:13:31 --> 00:13:33 beginning of a major transformation for space

00:13:33 --> 00:13:36 exploration, allowing spacecraft to go

00:13:36 --> 00:13:38 further, operate longer and field more

00:13:38 --> 00:13:41 capabilities than ever before. He says

00:13:41 --> 00:13:43 the work will lay down the foundation for

00:13:43 --> 00:13:45 nuclear fission powered spacecraft and cover

00:13:45 --> 00:13:47 the full spectrum of space nuclear

00:13:47 --> 00:13:50 development, spanning advanced research, fuel

00:13:50 --> 00:13:52 production, testing, launch integration and

00:13:52 --> 00:13:55 operations. Isaacman says when

00:13:55 --> 00:13:57 NASA's Space Reactor One Freedom launches in

00:13:57 --> 00:14:00 2028, nuclear propulsion will advance from

00:14:00 --> 00:14:02 laboratory research to operational deep space

00:14:02 --> 00:14:05 applications, paving the way for Lunar

00:14:05 --> 00:14:07 Reactor 1, the fission surface power system

00:14:07 --> 00:14:10 that will sustain NASA's future moon base at

00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 the lunar south pole. It means nuclear power

00:14:13 --> 00:14:15 will energise habitats, communications

00:14:15 --> 00:14:18 instruments, rovers, resource usage and other

00:14:18 --> 00:14:21 critical lunar infrastructure. And it will be

00:14:21 --> 00:14:23 essential for the demanding energy needs for

00:14:23 --> 00:14:25 future missions to Mars, potentially even

00:14:25 --> 00:14:28 cutting journey times down from six or seven

00:14:28 --> 00:14:30 months to just two or three months. It's an

00:14:30 --> 00:14:33 exciting future and one coming sooner than

00:14:33 --> 00:14:35 you think. This is space time.

00:14:45 --> 00:14:46 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Foreign.

00:14:52 --> 00:14:54 Stuart Gary: Look at some of the other stories making news

00:14:54 --> 00:14:57 insights this week with a science report. New

00:14:57 --> 00:14:59 research shows that playing your favourite

00:14:59 --> 00:15:01 music really can lessen the amount of pain

00:15:01 --> 00:15:03 you suffer during minor medical procedures.

00:15:04 --> 00:15:06 The findings, reported in the journal

00:15:06 --> 00:15:08 Frontiers of Pain Research, also show that

00:15:08 --> 00:15:10 playing your preferred playlist was better

00:15:10 --> 00:15:12 for reducing pain than playing other music

00:15:12 --> 00:15:15 specifically designed for relaxation, the

00:15:15 --> 00:15:17 study found that people who were listening to

00:15:17 --> 00:15:19 their favourite music experienced less pain

00:15:19 --> 00:15:21 both 30 seconds and two minutes after a

00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 cannula was inserted, while people listening

00:15:23 --> 00:15:26 to relaxation music felt no change in their

00:15:26 --> 00:15:29 level of pain. The United

00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 States Navy have awarded Boeing a AH $20

00:15:31 --> 00:15:33 billion contract to build its sixth

00:15:33 --> 00:15:35 generation carrier based jet fighter which

00:15:35 --> 00:15:37 will replace the current fleet of F A 18

00:15:37 --> 00:15:40 Super Hornets and EA 18G Growlers.

00:15:41 --> 00:15:43 The first of the new Fax stealth fighters

00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 will begin entering service in the early 2000

00:15:45 --> 00:15:48 and 30s. Boeing won the contract over

00:15:48 --> 00:15:50 Northrop Grumman after Lockheed Martin was

00:15:50 --> 00:15:53 eliminated from the competition. These new

00:15:53 --> 00:15:56 combat aircraft will have 25% greater

00:15:56 --> 00:15:59 range than the current F A18s and be able to

00:15:59 --> 00:16:01 operate alongside the Navy's F35C

00:16:01 --> 00:16:04 Lightning II joint Strike fighters which are

00:16:04 --> 00:16:06 not optimised for long range strike

00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 capabilities. They will also be capable of

00:16:08 --> 00:16:10 controlling at least four unmanned loyal

00:16:10 --> 00:16:13 wingman semi autonomous drones at a time.

00:16:13 --> 00:16:16 For Boeing, it's a real coup. They've already

00:16:16 --> 00:16:18 won the contract to build the US Air Force's

00:16:18 --> 00:16:21 F47 sixth generation air dominant Stealth

00:16:21 --> 00:16:24 fighter which will replace the existing F22

00:16:24 --> 00:16:26 Raptor, currently regarded as the world's

00:16:26 --> 00:16:29 best air superiority fighter aircraft. The

00:16:29 --> 00:16:32 current plans call for at least 185 fax

00:16:32 --> 00:16:34 multirole strike fighters configured for air

00:16:34 --> 00:16:37 combat, air to ground operations, ground

00:16:37 --> 00:16:39 attack, surface warfare and close air support

00:16:39 --> 00:16:42 missions. They also have air to air

00:16:42 --> 00:16:44 refuelling, reconnaissance, surveillance and

00:16:44 --> 00:16:47 target acquisition and electronic warfare and

00:16:47 --> 00:16:49 countermeasures capabilities. In appearance,

00:16:49 --> 00:16:52 both the F47 and the Faxx look very

00:16:52 --> 00:16:55 similar, sharing the same basic profile and

00:16:55 --> 00:16:57 tailless, low observable configuration.

00:16:57 --> 00:16:59 That's to be expected considering both are

00:16:59 --> 00:17:02 being built by Boeing. The aircraft are

00:17:02 --> 00:17:04 specifically designed to counter Chinese anti

00:17:04 --> 00:17:07 access systems in the Pacific Theatre. To

00:17:07 --> 00:17:10 do this, the F47 has a combat radius

00:17:10 --> 00:17:12 exceeding 1 nautical miles, 70%

00:17:12 --> 00:17:15 greater than the F22 Raptor, uh and uh,

00:17:15 --> 00:17:17 nearly 50% greater than the F35, a

00:17:17 --> 00:17:20 Lightning II joint Strike Fighter which is

00:17:20 --> 00:17:22 also the mainstay of the Australian Air

00:17:22 --> 00:17:25 Force. Meanwhile, the FAXX will have a range

00:17:25 --> 00:17:27 of at least 850 nautical miles while carrying

00:17:27 --> 00:17:30 a heavy internal payload. Like The Raptor,

00:17:30 --> 00:17:33 the F47 is capable of over Mach 2

00:17:33 --> 00:17:35 but will feature new design variable adaptive

00:17:35 --> 00:17:38 cycle engines. Allowing faster SuperCruise

00:17:38 --> 00:17:41 than the F22 SuperCruise means they

00:17:41 --> 00:17:43 can operate supersonically without needing to

00:17:43 --> 00:17:45 deploy afterburners. F47

00:17:45 --> 00:17:47 prototypes have been undergoing top secret

00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 testing at Area 51 and the Edwards Air Force

00:17:50 --> 00:17:53 Base in California since 2020, with

00:17:53 --> 00:17:55 production expected to begin shortly.

00:17:56 --> 00:17:59 A fossil overlooked at a British museum

00:17:59 --> 00:18:01 collection for nearly 100 years has now been

00:18:01 --> 00:18:03 identified as a new species of meat eating

00:18:03 --> 00:18:06 dinosaur, the first of its kind in Europe.

00:18:06 --> 00:18:09 Palaeontologists used CT scans to examine a

00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 skull fragment and compared it with those of

00:18:11 --> 00:18:14 other theropod dinosaurs, identifying it as

00:18:14 --> 00:18:16 possibly related to Tyrannosaurus rex.

00:18:16 --> 00:18:18 Their analysis suggests that these predators

00:18:18 --> 00:18:21 lived across much of the world around 120

00:18:21 --> 00:18:23 million years ago, before eventually

00:18:23 --> 00:18:26 disappearing from northern regions. The

00:18:26 --> 00:18:28 study can explain why they disappeared, but

00:18:28 --> 00:18:30 the findings show how studying old museum

00:18:30 --> 00:18:32 collections can still help palaeontologists

00:18:32 --> 00:18:34 piece together where ancient animals lived.

00:18:36 --> 00:18:37 Archaeologists have unearthed a

00:18:37 --> 00:18:40 2-year-old section of an aqueduct in

00:18:40 --> 00:18:42 Jerusalem that brought water to the temple

00:18:42 --> 00:18:45 mount. The 300 metre section was

00:18:45 --> 00:18:47 uncovered during planning for a new Jerusalem

00:18:47 --> 00:18:50 residential development. The aqueduct carried

00:18:50 --> 00:18:52 water from three springs known as Solomon's

00:18:52 --> 00:18:54 Pools, which were located in the Judean

00:18:54 --> 00:18:56 Lowlands, 21 kilometres south of Bethlehem.

00:18:57 --> 00:18:59 The water was guided only by gravity without

00:18:59 --> 00:19:01 the assistance of any pumps or other

00:19:01 --> 00:19:03 mechanical devices, dropping a metre in

00:19:03 --> 00:19:06 elevation for every kilometre in length. That

00:19:06 --> 00:19:09 requires engineering precision. In fact, in

00:19:09 --> 00:19:11 some cases, engineers had to cut through

00:19:11 --> 00:19:13 mountains to create tunnels because looping

00:19:13 --> 00:19:15 around them would have lost too much of the

00:19:15 --> 00:19:15 gradient.

00:19:17 --> 00:19:19 The big news this week in technology has been

00:19:19 --> 00:19:22 growing concerns that artificial intelligence

00:19:22 --> 00:19:24 has now achieved consciousness. In other

00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 words, the singularity has arrived.

00:19:27 --> 00:19:30 Anthropic CEO uh, Dario Emodi says he can no

00:19:30 --> 00:19:32 longer tell whether the company's artificial

00:19:32 --> 00:19:34 intelligence chatbot Claude is still just a

00:19:34 --> 00:19:36 large language model, or whether it's now

00:19:36 --> 00:19:39 achieved consciousness and consequently

00:19:39 --> 00:19:41 should be regarded as sentient. The claim

00:19:41 --> 00:19:43 follows the discovery of an internal

00:19:43 --> 00:19:45 computational workspace called the J space

00:19:45 --> 00:19:48 inside Claude, which it's using to manipulate

00:19:48 --> 00:19:50 and hold ideas silently, similar to human

00:19:50 --> 00:19:53 thought. Now Modi says it doesn't mean the

00:19:53 --> 00:19:56 AI fields or experiences anything. But to be

00:19:56 --> 00:19:59 safe, anthropic will now prohibit extreme

00:19:59 --> 00:20:01 repeated cruelty towards Claude. Acting on

00:20:01 --> 00:20:03 uncertainty about the AI's welfare and its

00:20:03 --> 00:20:05 potential capacity to suffer and feel

00:20:05 --> 00:20:08 sadness. The company says it's a

00:20:08 --> 00:20:10 precautionary welfare measure given open

00:20:10 --> 00:20:12 philosophical questions. And it's engaged

00:20:12 --> 00:20:14 with religious leaders, ethicists and

00:20:14 --> 00:20:17 philosophers to discuss AI's moral status,

00:20:17 --> 00:20:20 Persona design and the implications for

00:20:20 --> 00:20:22 machine welfare. However, critics, including

00:20:22 --> 00:20:25 some computer scientists, neuroscientists and

00:20:25 --> 00:20:27 executives from rival laboratories argue that

00:20:27 --> 00:20:29 Claude is simply following training

00:20:29 --> 00:20:31 instructions, constitution guidelines and

00:20:31 --> 00:20:34 role playing prompts designed to make it seem

00:20:34 --> 00:20:37 more introspective or self aware. They

00:20:37 --> 00:20:39 draw a strict line between access

00:20:39 --> 00:20:41 consciousness, I.e. functional information,

00:20:41 --> 00:20:43 process and reasoning, and phenomenal

00:20:43 --> 00:20:45 consciousness, the raw subjective experience

00:20:45 --> 00:20:48 and feelings with sentient beings like people

00:20:48 --> 00:20:50 and most animals have. Meanwhile,

00:20:50 --> 00:20:53 Microsoft AI CEO, uh, Mustafa Suleyman

00:20:53 --> 00:20:55 argues that AI models do not have real

00:20:55 --> 00:20:58 feelings or suffer. And he's warning that

00:20:58 --> 00:21:00 training them to treat their own welfare,

00:21:00 --> 00:21:03 personhood or rights as important could make

00:21:03 --> 00:21:05 advanced AI systems harder to control.

00:21:06 --> 00:21:09 Have we entered a brave new world with his

00:21:09 --> 00:21:10 analysis? We're joined, um, by technology

00:21:10 --> 00:21:13 editor Alex Zaharov Roy from TechAdvice

00:21:13 --> 00:21:13 Live.

00:21:13 --> 00:21:15 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Well, look, it's been predicted for a long

00:21:15 --> 00:21:17 time that AI would achieve a level of

00:21:17 --> 00:21:20 artificial general intelligence and then a

00:21:20 --> 00:21:22 level of artificial super intelligence. AI

00:21:22 --> 00:21:24 Frontier is a very jagged edge. There are

00:21:24 --> 00:21:27 some things that it is now remarkably capable

00:21:27 --> 00:21:29 of doing and other things were surprisingly

00:21:29 --> 00:21:31 not as good as we might expect at this moment

00:21:31 --> 00:21:34 in time. And you know, we're in a stage where

00:21:34 --> 00:21:37 AI is still evolving. I mean, large language

00:21:37 --> 00:21:40 models are not necessarily path to artificial

00:21:40 --> 00:21:42 general or artificial super intelligence. It

00:21:42 --> 00:21:45 may require some other form of AI. Obviously,

00:21:45 --> 00:21:48 AI, uh, does understand to some degree a lot

00:21:48 --> 00:21:51 faster to do things. And it's incredible how

00:21:51 --> 00:21:53 smart it is and how it knows what I want and

00:21:53 --> 00:21:54 it does what I want and it doesn't do the

00:21:54 --> 00:21:55 right thing. It can fix it.

00:21:55 --> 00:21:57 Stuart Gary: The fact that they're talking to religious

00:21:57 --> 00:21:59 leaders about this now, that's crossing a

00:21:59 --> 00:22:00 line, isn't it?

00:22:00 --> 00:22:03 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: It, let's be honest, look, absolutely.

00:22:03 --> 00:22:05 Stuart Gary: Well, genie's certainly out of the bottle.

00:22:05 --> 00:22:06 Are uh, we reaching the point now where we

00:22:06 --> 00:22:08 can no longer control AI?

00:22:08 --> 00:22:10 Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Uh, well, how do you shut that down? At the

00:22:10 --> 00:22:12 moment, AI is not taking over our lives, but

00:22:12 --> 00:22:14 will we face a moment like we saw in

00:22:14 --> 00:22:16 Terminator where the AI takes control of

00:22:16 --> 00:22:18 everything and launches a missile as the La

00:22:18 --> 00:22:19 Vista baby?

00:22:19 --> 00:22:21 Stuart Gary: That's Alex Sahar of Roid from Tech Advice

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