New Possible Explanation for the Hubble Tension | S26E148
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New Possible Explanation for the Hubble Tension | S26E148

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SpaceTime 20231211 Series 26 Episode 148
*A new possible explanation for the Hubble tension
Ever since its creation in a big bang 13.82 billion years ago the universe has been expanding. But that rate of expansion has been an ongoing area of debate with different measurement techniques giving contradictory values and different results.
*The satellite discovered by the Lucy mission gets a name
The satellite discovered during the first asteroid encounter of NASA's Lucy mission has now been given an official name – Selam – which means peace in the Ethiopian language Amharic. The tiny moon was discovered orbiting the asteroid Dinkinesh during Lucy’s fly by last month.
*Starship’s second flight explodes in mid air
SpaceX are describing the second test flight of its Starship Superheavy rocket as a success even though both stages suffered catastrophic failures during the flight. The 121 metre tall vehicle is the biggest and most powerful rocket ever built producing some 16.7 million pounds of thrust -- more than double that of the Saturn V rockets used to send Apollo astronauts to the Moon.
*The Science Report
Scientists have confirmed that 2023 will be the warmest year since records began.
Organ donations from older people may accelerate aging in younger recipients.
Australia's magic mushrooms could help breed tomorrow's 'designer shrooms.
Skeptics guide to Faith Healers
This week’s guests include:
Professor Adam Riess is a Physics Nobel Laureate at John Hopkins University
EarthCARE’s Mission and Optical Payload Manager Kotska Wallace
Dr Nick Lomb Consultant Curator of astronomy at the Powerhouse Museum's Sydney Observatory and honorary Professor with the University of Southern Queensland
And our regular guests:
Alex Zaharov-Reutt from techadvice.life
Tim Mendham from Australian Skeptics

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This is Space Time series 26 episode 148 for broadcast on the

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11th of December 2023. Coming up on SpaceTime, a possible new

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explanation for the Hubble tension that little Moon

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discovered by the Lucy Mission orbiting the asteroid Dinkins

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finally gets the name and SpaceX 's Starship second flight

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explodes in mid air, all that and more coming up on Space

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Time.

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Welcome to Space Time with Stuart Gary.

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Ever since the creation of the Big Bang 13.82 billion years

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ago, the universe has been expanding. However, that rate of

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expansion has been an ongoing area of debate with different

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measurement techniques, giving contradictory values and

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different results by knowing how fast the universe is expanding.

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Scientists not only have a better picture of what the

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universe is doing but also where it's going and what our ultimate

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fate will be. At first. The discrepancy in the rate of the

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cosmic expansion known as the Hubble Lamare constant was put

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down to simply a lack of accuracy in the actual

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measurements.

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And it was assumed that as scientists received more and

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more accurate observational data, the differences would

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gradually disappear however, that's not what's happened.

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Instead, the discrepancy known as Hubble tension has actually

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gotten bigger.

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Now, a new study reported in the monthly notices of the Royal

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Astronomical Society is proposing a new solution to the

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problem using an alternative theory of gravity called Mond

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modified Newtonian dynamics.

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Cosmologists have found that this discrepancy in the measured

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values of the Hubble constant can easily be explained and the

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Hubble tension disappears. Ok. So what are we actually dealing

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with here? Well, the expansion of the universe causes the

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Galaxies to move away from each other. And the speed at which

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they move is proportional to the distance between them.

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In other words, the further away from us a galaxy seems to be the

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faster it's moving. For instance, if one galaxy is twice

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as far away from the earth as another galaxy, its distance

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from us also grows twice as fast.

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It was us astronomer Edwin Hubble who first recognized this

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connection in order to calculate just how fast the Galaxies are

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moving away from each other, it 's therefore necessary to know

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how far apart they are. However, to do this, you need a constant

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by which the distance can be multiplied.

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And this is what we call the Hubble La Mare constant. A

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fundamental parameter of cosmology. Its value can be

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determined, for example, by looking at the very distant

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regions of the universe. And this gives us a speed of almost

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244 kilometers per hour per mega parse with one mega par se

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being a little bit more than 3 million light years.

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Now, one way of measuring cosmic distances involves looking for

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specific kinds of exploding stars known as type one, a

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supernovae. These are really great cosmic distance markers.

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Because when these stars explode, they all explode at

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about the same mass.

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And consequently, they explode with about the same amount of

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luminosity. And because astronomers know how bright they

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are, they can determine how far away they are by their apparent

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brightness. Using a formula called the inverse square law.

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It's a little bit like looking at a row of identical street

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lights along a road, the nearest one will be the brightest, but

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they'll look progressively fainter the further away they

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are in the same way, these type one a supernovae act like

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standard candles providing a sort of cosmic distance ladder.

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Say you look at a galaxy and if you're lucky, you'll see a type

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one, a supernova explode in that galaxy. And then you can work

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out just how far away it is. Another way of measuring cosmic

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distances across the universe is to look at the cosmic microwave

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background radiation.

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The leftover heat from the Big Bang, which provides a snapshot

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of the early universe is 300 years after creation and which

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is now cooled to just three degrees above absolute zero.

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Here, astronomers examine the spectral signatures of different

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elements observed in the light of the electromagnetic spectrum,

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see each element and molecule has its own unique spectral

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signature. A sort of celestial fingerprint and laboratory tests

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here on earth. Let scientists know exactly where on the

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spectrum that signature usually sits.

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However, as celestial bodies move through space, their

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selector signatures shift to different positions on the

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spectrum depending how fast they're moving and therefore how

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far away they are. This Doppler shift effect is exactly the same

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as what you get.

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When an ambulance speeds past with its siren on, you'll notice

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the pitch changes as it comes towards you passes you and then

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moves off into the distance that happens because the approaching

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sound waves coming towards you are being compressed, that

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heightens the pitch we call this blue shifting and the sound

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waves you're hearing as the ambulance moves away from you

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are stretched to a lower pitch and that's called red shifting.

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And it's the same thing with spectral readings. Astronomers

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know where the elemental lines for hydrogen are on the

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spectrum.

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But if these lines are shifted towards the red or blue, then

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the object you're seeing from your viewpoint is moving away or

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towards you. And the faster it moves, the stronger the change.

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Consequently, the further away the object is the trouble is

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these two methods.

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One using the cosmic microwave background, the other using type

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one, a supernovae don't match up. In fact, the value for the

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Hubble constant is around 10% less for the cosmic microwave

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background signatures compared to the type one A s in of a

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standard candle. This report from NASA TV.

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When Hubble was launched, one of its main objectives was to

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measure the Hubble constant expansion rate of the universe.

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He was standing by for a go for release in late OK.

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Charlie flight PDRS. Ok. The telescopes released. Ok. Thank

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you.

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Beginning in the mid two thousands, around 2005. I

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started a project to use what are sort of the gold standard

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tools in astronomy for measuring distances which is to use

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pulsating stars called seid variables and exploding stars

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called type one a supernova.

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And of course, the Hubble space telescope itself and to try to

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make more precise measurements than had ever been made as a

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check on the universe, new observations from the early

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history of the universe, what's called the cosmic microwave

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background. We're beginning to make very precise predictions of

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how fast the universe ought to be expanding today.

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And so we wanted to follow up on that by making comparably

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precise measurements. First, it was the W map cosmic microwave

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background satellite that NASA flew in the early two thousands.

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And then that gave way to plank, the European Space Agency

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Satellite is even more precise.

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So by measuring the cosmic micro background and then using a

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model that we call the standard model of cosmology to then

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extrapolate that to the present time they determined, ultimately

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that the universe ought to be expanding at in funny units that

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we use 67.4 plus or minus 0.5 kilometers per second per mega

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par se, which roughly means the universe will double in about 10

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billion years using the Hubble space telescope.

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And some of these tools, the CED variables and the type one a

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supernovae, we determined the local expansion rate to be about

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73.0 plus or minus 1.0 kilometer per second per mega par, which

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is the most precise local or present measurement of the

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expansion rate.

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But it differs from the expected value expected that is by the

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state of the universe shortly after the Big Bang coupled with

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our understanding of the universe, this cosmological

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model.

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And in fact, those two now sit apart from each other by about

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five times their mutual error bar, which is a phenomenon we

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call now the Hubble tension to give you an analogy would be

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like if you had a small child and you measured their height

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when they were two years old, that would be like the cosmic

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microwave background measurement.

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And then you used a model of how children grow to predict how

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tall they ought to end up at adulthood. And that would give

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you a height and then you would actually measure when they grew

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up how tall they were. And so that's the comparison we're

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making the present state of the measurement versus what is a

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very precise measurement in a younger universe.

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And then a model like the growth curve of a child to predict how

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tall they will be. Except unlike a child, we've seen many

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children grow. We have a very good understanding of that

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growth curve, but we've only ever seen one universe and it's

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full of stuff whose nature we don't deeply understand.

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And so it's not crazy to think that we might be missing

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something in that understanding in order to predict and really

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extrapolate the state of the universe. From the beginning to

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the present day, we have to understand components of the

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universe, particularly two components whose nature is not

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well understood but make up 96% of the universe.

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And that's dark matter and dark energy, dark energy makes up

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about 70%. And dark matter probably makes up about 25 to

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27%. And we don't really understand at a detailed level

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what these are exactly. We don't understand their micro physics.

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So in order to make these predictions, we assume that they

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are their most vanilla or plainest possible forms, we see

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this tension then. And so one possibility, not, the only

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possibility is that they are more complicated that there's a

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more complex story or some other aspect even that we've been

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missing about the universe.

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The Hubble space telescope has more or less been working on

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measuring the Hubble concept for its entire lifetime about 30

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years. So the original goal when it was launched was to measure

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it to 10% uncertainty. And I think that was successfully

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accomplished in the early two thousands.

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We're now on sort of what I would say is the second

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generation of measurements of the Hubble concept that are

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targeting closer to percent level precision. And I think

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Hubble, especially with its new instruments has absolutely come

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through with the capabilities needed Hubble really has

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delivered the quality and caliber of data that's necessary

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to make these measurements.

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And in that report from NASA TV, we heard from Professor Adam

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Rees, a physics Nobel laureate with John Hopkins University.

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Scientists have recently come up with a hypothesis that could

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explain this tension. See the large scale cosmic structure of

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the universe shows that it's built like a giant web with

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filaments and nodes of Galaxies, galaxy clusters and super

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clusters.

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And these surround vast empty voids over the last few years.

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There's been some evidence suggesting that the milky way

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galaxy could be near one of these voids. One of the study's

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authors, Pavel Kruer from the University Of Bonn says the new

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idea is that our galaxy is located in a region of space

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where there's relatively little matter comparable to say an air

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bubble in a cake.

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The density of matter is much higher around the bubble than

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what it is inside the bubble. Gravitational forces emanate

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from the surrounding matter which then pulls any Galaxies in

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the bubble towards the edge of the cavity.

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That's why they're moving away from us faster than would

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actually be expected. So these deviations could therefore

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simply be explained by a local under density. Another research

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group recently measured the average speed of a large number

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of Galaxies that are some 600 million light years away from

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us.

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And they found that these Galaxies are actually moving

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away from us four times faster than what the standard model of

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cosmology allows. And that's because the standard model

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doesn't provide for such under densities or bubbles, they

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should not actually exist, instead matter should be evenly

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distributed through space. And we know from the large scale

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structure of the universe, that 's simply not the case.

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Our standard model of cosmology known as LAMBDA coal dark matter

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is based on a theory of the nature of gravity first put

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forward by Albert Einstein. However, Cooper says

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gravitational forces may be behaving differently on certain

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scales compared to what Einstein expected. So instead, Cooper and

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colleagues used a modified theory of gravity in their

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computer simulations.

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This modified theory known as Mond or modified Newtonian

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dynamics was first proposed four decades ago by Israeli physicist

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Mora Milgram Mon was originally proposed to explain anomalies

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set in the rotational speeds of Galaxies.

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Those anomalies eventually led to the suggestion of an

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invisible substance called dark matter GIS were spinning around

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faster than they should for the amount of matter, they contained

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something else was holding them together. And that led to the

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suggestion of some invisible substance called dark matter.

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Mon instead suggests that the anomalies put down to extra

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unseen mass or dark matter could just as easily be explained by

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Newton's law of gravity breaking down when the gravitational pull

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is very weak as is the case with the outer regions of Galaxies.

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Now, don't get me wrong. Mo is still considered an outsider

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theory today. But Rufus says that in his calculations, one

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does actually predict the existence of such bubbles.

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He says that if one were to assume that gravity actually

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behaves according to Milgram's assumptions, then the Hubble

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tension would disappear. There would then actually only be one

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constant for the expansion of the universe and the observed

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deviations would simply be due to irregularities in the

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distribution of matter.

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It's just the latest pebble in a growing mountain of evidence

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supporting Mo I guess any time will tell this Space Time still

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to come. A little Moon discovered by the Lucy Mission

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orbiting the asteroid Dinkins has finally got a name and

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SpaceX's Starship second flight explodes in mid air all that and

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more still to come on Space Time.

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The satellite discovered during the first asteroid encounter of

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NASA's Lucy Mission is now being given an official name Salam

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which means peace in the Ethiopian language, Marek.

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The tiny Moon was discovered orbiting the asteroid Dinkins

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during Lucy's flyby last month. Dinkin Esh is the Ethiopian name

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for the Australopithecus fossil named Lucy, after which the Lucy

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spacecrafts be named Australopithecus are considered

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to be an early branch of the Hamid family tree.

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The same tree that Homo sapiens belong to Mission scientist

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Raphael Marshall from the Blue Coast Observatory in nice, who

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originally identified Danesh as a potential target for the Lucy

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Mission says it seemed appropriate to name the

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satellite in honor of another fossil that was called Lucy's

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baby. The fossil Sam was discovered in the year 2000 in

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DKA Ethiopia.

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It belonged to a three year old girl of the same

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Australopithecus species as Lucy. Although in actual fact,

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the baby lived some 100 years before Lucy as the Lucy

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spacecraft was flying towards Danesh observations leading up

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to the encounter hinted that there was something interesting

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going on in this system.

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And as Lucy sped past Mission managers discovered that not

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only did Dinkins have a satellite, but that satellite

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was a contact binary. The first contact binary satellite ever

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observed. The Dinkins encounter was added in January as an in

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flight test of the spacecraft systems and instruments and all

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systems performed well.

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The tools and techniques that were refined with the data from

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the encounter will help Mission managers prepare the Mission's

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main targets. The never before explored Jovian Trojan

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asteroids. In addition to the images taken by Lucy's high

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resolution camera at its terminal tracking cameras. Lucy

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's other science instruments also collected data that will

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help scientists better understand these puzzling

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asteroids.

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The spacecraft successfully scanned the two asteroids from a

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variety of vantage points around closest approach, studying their

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surface and obtaining detailed spectra. Scientists were also

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able to detect and measure the temperature of the system for

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about nine minutes as the spacecraft flew by on its

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closest approach.

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Phil Christensen from Arizona State says different size

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particles such as sand pebbles and boulders all heat up

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differently as the asteroid rotates. And the temperature

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measurements will allow scientists to state of the size

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and physical properties of the materials on the asteroid

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surface.

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The data will help scientists better understand the

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composition of the asteroids allowing them to compare the

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make up of Dinkins and Sam and understand how these two bodies

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may be compositionally linked to other asteroids. Lucy is

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expected to visit nine more asteroids over the next decade

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in six separate encounters.

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After an earth gravity assist this time next year, the

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spacecraft will return to the main asteroid belt where it will

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encounter the asteroid Donald Johansson in April 2025 Lucy

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will pass through the main asteroid belt and reach the

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Mission's primary targets. The Jovian Trojan asteroids in 2027.

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This report from NASA TV on November.

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1st 2023 NASA'S Lucy Mission was scheduled to fly by an image its

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first main belt asteroid Dinkins.

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However, when the team downloaded the spacecraft

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imagery, it made an unexpected discovery asteroid Dinkins has a

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satellite making it a binary asteroid system. In the first

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image from the Lucy long range reconnaissance imager. The team

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observed the Moon rise of a satellite of its first asteroid

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Dinkins.

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This image was taken at 1255 eastern within a minute of

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closest approach from a range of approximately 200 70 miles from

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the asteroid Danes. In the Ethiopian language means you are

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marvelous and the asteroid truly did live up to its name Lucy

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observations in the weeks leading up to the encounter

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suggested that Dinkins might hold some surprises.

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Sure enough imagery from the terminal tracking camera T two

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cam on the Lucy spacecraft shows Din Andes's satellite as the

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team downloaded more images that had been taken before and after

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closest approach, they were in for another surprise that

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satellite was actually a contact binary.

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It was two objects stuck together. This small satellite

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has been named Salom which means peace. The team will continue to

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study the data from this first encounter as they prepare for

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their next rendezvous with the main belt asteroid Donald

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Johanson in 2025.

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This is Space Time still to come. SpaceX's Starship. Second

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flight explodes in mid air. And later in the science report, the

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World Meteorological Organization confirms that 2023

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will be the hottest year since records began all that and more

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still to come on Space Time.

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SpaceX are describing the second test flight of its Starship

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super heavy rocket as a success. Even though both stages suffered

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catastrophic failures during the flight. The 121 m tall vehicle

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is the biggest and most powerful rocket ever built, producing

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some £16.7 million of thrust. That's more than double that of

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the Saturn five Apollo Moon rockets.

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The fully reusable Starship super heavy is designed as an

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interplanetary colonial transport vehicle capable of

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launching more than 100 tons of cargo and people on deep space

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missions to the Moon Mars and beyond and eventually allowing

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humanity to establish colonies on other worlds.

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The second test flight was launched from SpaceX's star base

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at Boca Chica on the southern Texas Gulf Of Mexico coastline.

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The euphemistically described rapid unscheduled disassembly of

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both the booster and the spacecraft stages occurred

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shortly after completing a successful stage separation.

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SpaceX says lessons will be learnt from the flight which

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will improve the next launch attempt. Starships first

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integrated flight test back in April also ended in failure with

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a spacecraft disintegrating about four minutes after launch

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on that occasion, the super heavy booster core stage

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suffered multiple engine failures during the ascent and

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failed to jettison from the Starship upper stage.

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It seems massive distraction to the base of the launch pad

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during lift off may have flung debris onto several of the 33

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core stage Raptor engines, damaging them and resulting

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their malfunction during flight this time. All 33 booster

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engines kept firing for the full length of their flight cycle.

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9187654321.

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We are two plus 40 seconds into the flight. Start up 33 Raptor

00:22:01
engines, power and telemetry nominal. We've heard power and

00:22:06
telemetry nominal cut out. We're heading down range over the Gulf

00:22:09
Of Mexico and that call out tells us Starship is through the

00:22:14
period of greater stress on the way to space.

00:22:17
Now, the next major event is hot staging in just over 90 seconds

00:22:21
from now to get ready. The booster will shut down all but

00:22:24
three of the Raptor engines holding the two stages together

00:22:28
will release and the Starships second stage will ignite its

00:22:31
engines. Starship will then separate from the super heavy

00:22:34
booster and head to space.

00:22:35
And at the same time, the three engines that are still firing on

00:22:38
super heavy will flip the booster the back burn. Putting

00:22:45
the first stage on path for a flash down in the Gulf Of Mexico

00:22:48
engine. Power continues to look. Nomen on 33 Raptor engines,

00:22:52
we're about to shut down the first stage and perform staging.

00:22:55
Main engine cut off or Miko up a stage engine and then hot stage

00:23:00
separation all proceeded seamlessly at an altitude of 148

00:23:04
kilometers.

00:23:05
Approximately two minutes and 49 seconds after liftoff just as

00:23:08
designed and acquisition of signal Houston and New Orleans

00:23:12
booster engine cut off stage separation should the first ever

00:23:20
successful for a space.

00:23:24
However, the co stage then suddenly exploded during the

00:23:27
flip back maneuver about three minutes and 20 seconds into the

00:23:30
flight. But by that stage, its primary job was already done

00:23:34
and.

00:23:35
The super heavy booster has just experienced a rapid unscheduled

00:23:39
disassembly. However, our ship is still underway with all six

00:23:46
and we just heard there ship avionics, power and teet

00:23:48
nominal, all six engines are lit.

00:23:49
Now, we did know that the the hot staging was going to be

00:23:55
incredibly dynamic. We knew that there was a chance that the

00:23:58
booster would not survive. But we're going to take that data

00:24:00
and figure out how we can make the booster better for the next

00:24:03
hot stage.

00:24:04
Yeah, that hot staging, put a lot of load on the top of the

00:24:07
booster and of course, it flipped around there. A lot of

00:24:10
dynamic stuff happening.

00:24:13
The ship is still going strong.

00:24:15
And it's doing great right now. The ship, the second stage is on

00:24:20
its way. The next major milestone for the ship will be

00:24:24
the shutdown of those engines or SECO second engine cut off,

00:24:28
which if you follow our Falcon Nine launches, familiar

00:24:31
terminology there. So far today has been incredibly successful

00:24:35
even with the r of the super heavy booster.

00:24:38
Primary objective of the booster today to get to hot staging, to

00:24:42
get ship on its way to orbit. It did that admirably.

00:24:45
Yeah, we definitely asked trajectory nominal. All right,

00:24:47
great news there. That trajectory trajectory for ship

00:24:50
is nominal. Once again, Starships, second stage firing

00:24:54
those engines.

00:24:55
And as you just heard, everything is looking good now

00:24:58
for the ship, we wanted it to survive hot staging, which is

00:25:01
did we also want to basically demonstrate that the successful

00:25:05
start up of that of those engines demonstrating controlled

00:25:09
ascent, which is what it's doing right now and eventually orbital

00:25:12
insertion.

00:25:13
Like all of that sounds great secondary objectives for ship

00:25:16
again continuing to gather engine data and about its health

00:25:20
performance.

00:25:21
Meanwhile, Starship six upper stage Raptor engines kept firing

00:25:25
as planned. But the flight came to an explosive sudden end just

00:25:29
as Starships engines were almost done firing to place the

00:25:32
spacecraft into a 240 kilometer high sub orbital flight path

00:25:36
that would have seen Starships splash down in the Pacific Ocean

00:25:39
near Hawaii 90 minutes later, chamber pressures.

00:25:43
Great news there that tells us that the chamber pressures

00:25:46
inside of the Starship. Basically the propellant

00:25:49
pressure in the ship are looking good. So they're at.

00:25:52
The pressures that we expect to try to get into our target

00:25:56
trajectory today. And we're not targeting orbit today. We're

00:26:00
targeting almost orbit today. That's very intentional as part

00:26:03
of the Mission design. The goal is to get to a thrust profile

00:26:08
similar to what we would need for orbit, but also to get to

00:26:12
the energy levels.

00:26:14
The Starship program has been closely monitored by NASA who've

00:26:17
contracted a version of Starship called the HLS to operate as a

00:26:21
reusable lunar lander for its manned Artemis Moon program to

00:26:24
return astronauts to the lunar surface. In 2025 cruise will

00:26:29
travel to lunar orbit aboard the Orion spacecraft which is

00:26:32
launched by NASA'S SLS rocket.

00:26:34
They'll then transfer to the Starship HLS and journey down to

00:26:38
the lunar surface and back again. Once the lunar gateway

00:26:41
space station is built towards the end of the decade, it'll be

00:26:44
used as a jumping off point for missions to the lunar surface.

00:26:48
Starship will then shuttle between it and the Moon

00:26:51
transporting people and supplies.

00:26:53
SpaceX also plans to eventually use Starship to replace the

00:26:57
company's existing dragon spacecraft and its current

00:27:00
Falcon Nine and Falcon heavy launch vehicles. Other versions

00:27:04
of Starship will operate as satellite delivery systems,

00:27:07
orbital Refueler tankers, cargo transports and to provide point

00:27:11
to point flights around the earth, allowing people to reach

00:27:14
any destination on the planet in just 90 minutes.

00:27:17
Now, if they can only keep the thing flying, this is Space Time

00:27:37
and time now to take a brief look at some of the other

00:27:39
stories making news in science this week. With a science

00:27:42
report, scientists have confirmed that 2023 will be the

00:27:47
warmest year since records began.

00:27:50
The findings by the World Meteorological Organisation's

00:27:52
provisional state of the global climate report shows that data

00:27:56
up to October indicates 2023 has already been about 1.4 degrees

00:28:02
above pre industrial temperatures. So far, the report

00:28:05
shows carbon dioxide levels are now 50 per cent higher than at

00:28:09
pre industrial levels. And sea level rise for 2013 to 2022 is

00:28:14
more than twice the rate recorded for 1993 to the year

00:28:18
2002.

00:28:20
Meanwhile, the Australasian Fire authorities council is warning

00:28:24
that most of Queensland New South Wales and the southern

00:28:26
part of the northern territory will be at increased risk of

00:28:30
fire this summer along with some locations in Tasmania, Victoria,

00:28:34
South Australia and Western Australia.

00:28:36
The organization which is the National Council For Fire And

00:28:39
Emergency Services says vegetation growth fueled by la

00:28:43
nina driven heavy rainfalls in recent years is combining with

00:28:46
record breaking dry conditions and temperatures this spring to

00:28:49
create higher fuel loads even in areas that were heavily burnt

00:28:53
during the 2019, 2020 black summer fire season.

00:28:58
A new study has found that organ donations from older people may

00:29:02
be accelerating the aging process. In younger recipients,

00:29:06
aging cells can become Seni a condition in which they start

00:29:10
multiplying and secrete chemicals that negatively affect

00:29:13
neighboring cells, sentence cells accumulate in older donor

00:29:17
organs and have the potential to compromise transplant outcomes.

00:29:22
Now, a report in the American journal of transplantation has

00:29:25
found that transplanting older organs can trigger sentence in

00:29:29
younger recipients.

00:29:30
Scientists observed that young and middle aged recipients that

00:29:33
received heart transplants from older donors had impaired

00:29:36
physical capacity and reduced running times and grip strength

00:29:40
and middle aged recipients who received older hearts also

00:29:43
showed increased anxiety related behavior, impaired memory and

00:29:47
poorer learning performances.

00:29:49
The authors found that these accelerated aging effects in

00:29:52
younger recipients were driven by the release of sentences

00:29:55
associated factors and mitochondrial DNA from older

00:29:59
transplants.

00:30:01
A new study suggests that Australia's magic mushrooms

00:30:04
could help breed tomorrow's designer rooms. The findings

00:30:08
reported in the journal current biology claim Australia's magic

00:30:12
mushroom population contains greater genetic diversity than

00:30:15
the rest of the world's commercially available. Shrooms.

00:30:18
Scientists say this diversity could be harnessed to breed

00:30:21
designer mushrooms as a potential mental health

00:30:24
treatment. Scientists secret the genes of 38 types of magic

00:30:28
mushrooms from Australia and 86 commercially available types.

00:30:32
Finding that while the Aussie Rooms were genetically diverse,

00:30:35
the commercially available ones were sorely lacking in

00:30:37
diversity.

00:30:38
After decades of selective breeding, the researchers say

00:30:42
some of the Aussie genetic diversity relates to the genes

00:30:45
controlling the production of psilocin, the psychedelic

00:30:47
substance with potential as the mental health treatment. This

00:30:51
means they may be able to use the Aussie mushrooms to better

00:30:54
understand and control psilocin in newly cultivated types of

00:30:58
shrooms.

00:31:00
Well, it seems spiritual pseudoscience is everywhere on

00:31:03
the social media these days with an ever growing number of faith

00:31:06
healers promising all sorts of miraculous cures and it's not

00:31:10
just a case of a fool and his money. It may well be costing

00:31:13
lives. Tim Mendham from Australian skeptics warns people

00:31:17
believing in faith healers and wacky cures are stopping vital

00:31:20
cancer treatments in the vain hope of an easy cure. Yeah, this

00:31:24
is.

00:31:25
A weird story which I had to read through the entire thing

00:31:28
which is so long, it's more anecdotal, literally ran through

00:31:31
page after page after page. Faiths have been dealt with by

00:31:33
the skeptics. A number of times actually, over the years,

00:31:36
obviously, faiths have been around a long time. People who

00:31:38
come to you and say, Zapp, I put my hand on your head and your

00:31:41
illness is gone.

00:31:42
Whatever, the ones that pull bits of chicken guts out of you,

00:31:45
aren't they? Allegedly?

00:31:46
That's the psychic surgery.

00:31:49
Not really faith healing so much. That's, they've got a

00:31:51
physical thing that they pull out of you, but it's not you and

00:31:54
it's not a real thing. It's just to give you then it gets into

00:31:57
the area because it gives people the idea of being cured. And the

00:32:00
same thing happens with these faith healers who are religious

00:32:02
ceremonies, charismatic sort of things where people saying

00:32:05
hallelujah ring or even when they're non religious.

00:32:08
Well, it's very short placebo effect. People often think

00:32:13
they're cured and then a few days later, they're not. Now it

00:32:15
's one thing to feel good after the initial treatment. But then

00:32:19
if you're not cured, you not cure it. And therefore there

00:32:21
might be f but there's not a lot of healing involved.

00:32:23
And certainly there is a particular case, a particular

00:32:26
article that I was reading recently about a fellow who's a

00:32:28
former chiropractor who allows himself to be called a

00:32:31
neuroscientist by many of the alternative medicine platforms

00:32:34
that he appears on named Joe Dispenser, which is interesting,

00:32:38
but Joe Dispenza is a chiropractor former, but he

00:32:41
regards himself as a scientist and he likes to use all sorts of

00:32:44
scientific terms and sort of words like in one particular

00:32:48
thing he says, and this is a classic, classic sort of words

00:32:52
if you can combine a little quantum physics with a little

00:32:55
neuroscience, neuro, endocrinology and

00:32:59
psychoneuroimmunology, the mind body connection, epigenetics,

00:33:03
all of those sciences point to the finger at possibility.

00:33:06
Well, they don't, they form a lot of words, they don't

00:33:08
necessarily work word that it is a word and it doesn't mean

00:33:13
anything but it convinces people that this is not religion, this

00:33:16
is science, this is medical science and therefore it must be

00:33:19
working but it doesn't.

00:33:20
So what happens is that people believe it, they spend their

00:33:23
money on it, they give their faith to it, they stop other

00:33:26
medical treatments that they probably need, that might be

00:33:28
having some beneficial effect. And they turn to the faith and

00:33:31
you will find that most times the faith does not in the long

00:33:35
run. And you then wonder about the faith healers. Are they pure

00:33:38
shocks?

00:33:39
And classic case of James Randi, the art skeptic who recorded

00:33:44
radio transmissions between a faith healer and his wife, who

00:33:47
was at the back of the hall, who knew about a number of the

00:33:49
people in the audience and told him they were the radio

00:33:52
earpiece.

00:33:52
There is so and so in the hall, he has this particular disease

00:33:55
and he lives at so and so address and blah, blah, blah and

00:33:58
so the person of the faith, he says, I get this message from

00:34:00
God or wherever there is a bill blogs in the audience, you're

00:34:04
suffering from back pain and you live on 33 Labia Avenue,

00:34:07
whatever. Ok.

00:34:08
And the person who is stunned, the audience is stunned, how

00:34:10
would he know all this and he can cure him well, he knew it

00:34:13
because they were cheating and he didn't cure them and he was

00:34:17
found out and revealed by Randy and he lost his very lucrative

00:34:21
activities, but he's back as they always do and convincing

00:34:24
people that he can still cure them over again. And it's like

00:34:26
these things have an amazing ability to bounce back and.

00:34:30
Really thick skins. Let's face it. You've got to be a con

00:34:34
artist.

00:34:34
Yeah, they're so, I mean, you don't expect sort of morality

00:34:37
and ethics from a con artist. They're con artist, they don't

00:34:40
have it to start with. So you're not going to suddenly have a

00:34:42
road to Damascus conversion by some of them. But the trouble is

00:34:45
they're ripping people off in various ways, emotionally,

00:34:47
financially, health wise, whatever there is no cure

00:34:50
through faith healing, there's an apparent cure.

00:34:52
You might feel good for a while because you're convinced in the

00:34:54
excitement of the ceremony. But 10 times that attempt, you go

00:34:57
back and after a while, your illness reappears. Not that it

00:35:01
ever went away, but you are still aware of it.

00:35:03
And there's classic cases, sad cases of people who think

00:35:06
they're cured, give up their cancer treatment and die within

00:35:09
weeks or months of the evil of the whole thing, isn't it? That

00:35:13
is the, this is not a fun little thing, right? This is evil and

00:35:18
people taking advantage of people and killing them. This is

00:35:20
the serious end of the skeptical scale.

00:35:23
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