S26E108: Fewer Feeding Black Holes // Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope // Muon g-2
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S26E108: Fewer Feeding Black Holes // Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope // Muon g-2


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This is Space Time series 26 episode, 100 and eight for

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broadcast on the eighth of September 2023. Coming up on

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Space Time, a new study shows there are actually fewer black

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holes than thought busily feeding on anything around them.

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We look at NASA's Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope and the Mu

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G Two collaboration exploring uncharted territory in the

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search for new physics. All that and more. Coming up on Space

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Time.

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Welcome to Space Time with Stuart Garry.

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When we think of our universe, we often think of Galaxies and

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their central supermassive black holes busily feeding on anything

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that gets too close violent places, hosting monsters that we

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can barely imagine.

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Now, a new survey looking at a large slice of the cosmos using

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the James Webb Space Telescope has revealed that active

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galactic nuclei that is feeding supermassive black holes are a

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lot rarer than previously thought.

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The findings made with Webb's mid infrared instrument suggest

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the universe may be a lot more stable than astronomers and

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certainly science fiction writers ever imagined the work

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reported in the Astrophysical Journal and on the pre press

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physics website, archive dot org focused on the long studied zone

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of the cosmos, which has been dubbed the extended growth strip

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located between Ursa major and the birds constellations.

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Previous observations, the same area were made using the Spitzer

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Space telescope. So re examining the area with a more powerful

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web should reveal lots more active galactic nuclei.

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The study's lead author, Alison Kilpatrick from the University

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Of Kansas says the new observations were taken from

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June last year through to December and were aiming to

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characterize how Galaxies look during the heyday of star

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formation in the universe.

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It all equates to a look back time of between seven and 10

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billion years. Webb's mid infrared instrument can see

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through the veil of dust and gas that can obscure ongoing star

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formation and hide supermassive black holes ravaging surrounding

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material.

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While astronomers are now pretty certain that every galaxy does

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contain a supermassive black hole at its center feeding black

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holes, those containing active galactic nuclei are far more

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spectacular and they great laboratories for studying the

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universe as a whole.

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The authors anticipated that the higher resolution web telescope

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survey would locate many more active galactic nuclei than what

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were found using the Spitzer Space telescope. However, it

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turns out that boost in parent sensitivity only revealed a

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handful of additional galactic nuclei.

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In other words, there's not as much going on as what had

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previously been thought. Kirkpatrick says there was no

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flood of newly discovered supermassive black holes with

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active galactic nuclei. She says it turns out that these black

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holes are likely growing at a slower pace than previously

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believed.

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And that's intriguing considering the Galaxies

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Kirkpatrick's been examining do resemble our own milky way

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galaxy as it would have appeared in the past.

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An important mystery in astronomy lies in understanding

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how typical supermassive black holes such as those found in

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Galaxies like the milky way grow and influence their host

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Galaxies. But this study's findings suggest that these

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black holes are not growing, rapidly absorbing only a limited

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amount of material and perhaps not significantly impacting

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their host Galaxies at all.

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The discovery opens up a whole new perspective on black hole

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growth since our current understanding is largely based

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on the most massive black holes in the biggest Galaxies. And

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those do have a significant effect on their hosts but

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smaller black holes likely don't.

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Another surprising outcome was the lack of dust in these

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Galaxies by using web astronomers could identify many

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more smaller Galaxies than before, including ones the size

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of the milky way and even smaller, which were previously

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impossible to see these red shifts.

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Now, typically the most massive Galaxies have abundant dust due

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to rapid star formation rates. It's always been assumed that

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lower mass Galaxies would also contain a substantial amount of

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dust, but they didn't see that defying expectations and offers

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another intriguing discovery.

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According to Kirkpatrick, this work changes science's

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understanding of how Galaxies grow, especially concerning

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Galaxies like our own milky way, the supermassive black hole at

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the center of our milky way galaxy Sagittarius.

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A star is located some 27 light years away and is around

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4.3 million times the mass of our sun. And right now, as far

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as we can tell, it's not doing much and it hasn't been doing

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much for a long time. Put simply seitter A star seems quite

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uneventful and not displaying much activity.

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One significant question regarding the milky way is

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whether seitter a star was ever really active or even went

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through an active galactic nuclei phase. If most Galaxies

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like ours lack detectable active galactic nuclei, it could imply

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that our black hole was also not very active in the past.

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Ultimately, this knowledge will help constrain and measure black

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hole masses shedding new light on the origins of black holes,

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how they grow and how they evolve. And for now, at least

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that remains an unanswered question.

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This is Space Time still to come. We look at NASA's Nancy

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Grace Roman Space Telescope and the my qi two collaboration

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exploring uncharted territory in their search for new physics,

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You're listening to Space Time with Stuart Gary, a vast team of

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scientists and engineers are continuing work on NASA's Nancy

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Grace Roman Space Telescope which is slated for launch in

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2027 like the James Webb Space Telescope.

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Roman will study the universe using infrared eyes. But while

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Webb unravels the beauty and mystery of the cosmos is zooming

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in to get a detailed look at small parts of the sky. Nancy

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Grace Roman is going to have a much wider panoramic field of

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view, surveying large areas of the cosmos all at once.

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In fact, it'll gather more data than any other NASA mission ever

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launched in the process attempting to answer some of the

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biggest questions in Astrophysics. Roman will be

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searching for extra solar planets using gravitational

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microlensing as a guide.

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But its real goals will be to test Albert Einstein's theory of

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general relativity, which has been well tested on the scale of

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our solar system but not so much on larger cosmological scales.

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You see one of the big problems is that visible matter within

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our universe should according to the theory slow down the

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expansion of the universe.

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Yet, during the late 19 nineties, astronomers discovered

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the rate of the universe's expansion out from the Big Bang

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13.8 billion years ago, isn't slowing down. It's actually

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accelerating astronomers have attributed that acceleration to

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a mysterious force. They're calling dark energy.

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Roman will give scientists data accurately measuring the

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position and distance of millions of Galaxies. It'll

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provide a chronology of the universe and the growth of

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cosmic structure. With the end goal of measuring the effects of

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dark energy and the consistency of general relativity and the

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curvature of Space Time.

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All this will help astronomers better understand the expansion

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rate of the universe in different areas. Ultimately, the

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results will tell if Einstein's theory of gravity needs

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modification and that means it'll do nothing less than tell

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us a bit more about the ultimate fate of the universe.

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The Roman Space Telescope is based on an existing 2.4 m wide

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field of view primary mirror and will carry two scientific

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experiments. There's the wide field instrument which is a

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300.8 megapixel multi band visible in near infrared camera

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that will provide a sharpness of images comparable with what was

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achieved by the Hubble space telescope.

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But over a 0.28 degree field of view that's 100 times larger

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than the imaging cameras on Hubble. There's also a

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chronograph instrument, a high contrast small field of view

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camera with a spectrometer attached to it, it'll cover

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visible and near infrared wavelengths using a novel

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Starlight suppression technology.

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Although they're separated by 30 years, Roman actually shares a

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lot of its heritage with the Hubble space telescope. But then

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again, when you think about it, there's far more than just one

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Hubble space telescope, in fact, as far as we know, and that

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figure is pretty flexible.

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There are at least 22 Hubble space telescopes up there. All

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of them are using the same basic design adapted for Hubble and

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some have been in orbit since 1976.

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But unlike Hubble, which is pointed up towards the heavens,

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the others are all pointed down towards the Earth's surface

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because they're Earth observation spy satellites built

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for the National Reconnaissance Office, America's Intelligence

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Agency For Space Based Surveillance.

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They've gone by a variety of different official and not so

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official code names such as Kh 11, Keenan crystal evolved

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enhanced crystal, 10, 10 gambit and Hexagon, but they're

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generally best known by their most famous code name Keyhole.

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There have been at least six basic technology upgrades or

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blocks to the Keyhole design since it was first introduced.

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And two of them known as Misty were even designed to be

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stealthy, virtually invisible to radar. Back in 2012, the

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National Reconnaissance Office donated a pair of spare block

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three Kel spy satellites complete with spare parts to

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NASA potentially for use's Hubble telescope replacements.

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The pair were manufactured in the late 19 nineties and early

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two thousands and were originally meant to join the

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constellation of similar Keyhole surveillance satellites orbiting

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the Earth, but were never used because the design was

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superseded by newer block four and block five versions like

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Hubble.

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They were built by Lockheed Martin using the same 2.4 m main

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mirror and like Hubble. They were designed to orbit at an

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altitude of about 500 kilometers because they looked down at the

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Earth and not up into space.

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They used different optical ancillary equipment and also had

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a shorter focal length, giving them a wider field of view

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around 100 times larger than Hubble's wide field camera,

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three instrument. The two telescopes represented a multi

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billion dollar gift from the National Reconnaissance Office

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to NASA. But they won't complete among other things, they lack

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detectors, star trackers, prism wheels and filters.

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But the good news is they did come complete with bodies

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mirrors, payload radiators and 1.5 m long struts for mounting

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spacecraft instruments. And it's one of these two telescopes

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which are now being rebuilt into the Nancy Grace Roman Space

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Telescope.

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The team building Roman have now begun integrating and testing

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the spacecraft's electrical cabling or wiring harness. This

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enables different parts of the observatory to communicate with

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one another. Additionally, the harness provides power and helps

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the central computer monitor the observatory's function by way of

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an array of sensors.

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It all brings the mission a step closer to surveying billions of

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cosmic objects. Project development. Lead Dene Ferrer

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from NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland

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says just as the central nervous system carries signals

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throughout the human body, Roman 's wiring harness connects its

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components providing both power and commands to each electronic

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system and instrument.

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Without the harness, there would be no spacecraft weighing in at

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around 454 kg. The harness is made up of approximately 32

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wires and 900 connectors. The wires were all laid out end to

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end.

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They would span more than 80 kilometers directed upwards.

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They'd be eight times taller than mount Everest. Achieving

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this milestone has been no small task over the course of around

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two years. Now, a team of 11 Godard technicians have spent

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time at the workbench and perched on ladders cutting wires

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to length, meticulously cleaning each component and repeatedly

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connecting everything together.

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The entire harness was built on an observatory spacecraft mockup

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structure before being transported to Goddard Space

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Environment simulator, a massive thermal vacuum chamber used in

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this case for bake out, bake out.

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That's a term we haven't used before. So what does it mean?

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Well, when observatories like Rome at are center of space, the

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resulting vacuum in orbital temperatures can cause certain

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materials to release harmful vapors. These vapors can

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condense on the electronics of the spacecraft, creating

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problems even short circuits or they can deposit on sensitive

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optics degrading the telescope's performance.

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So baout is designed to release these gasses on Earth so they

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aren't emitted inside the spacecraft. When in space with

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backout complete, engineers are now weaving the harness through

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the flight structure in Goddard 's big clean room.

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This ongoing process will continue until most of the

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spacecraft's components are assembled. In the meantime, the

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Goddard team will soon begin installing electronics. These

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will eventually provide power by way of the harness to all of the

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spacecraft's science instruments. This report from

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NASA TV, the.

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Roman Space Telescope's primary structure is ready for the wire

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harness that powers each system of instruments, gyroscopes, data

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transfer and movement.

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But the harness is nearly £1000.45 miles of continuous

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wiring. This acts as the central nervous system of the whole

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observatory and like our nerves is threaded through each major

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component, making its transfer a delicate operation.

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What we're doing today is we're taking the flight harness off of

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the mock up that was used to put it in that flight configuration

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and we're putting it on the harness transfer tool which will

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then be used to pick up the flight harness and put it into

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the flight structure to then be put and mounted on all the

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flight hardware and then eventually flown into space.

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Each side of the primary structure houses different

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systems, each with redundant paths of wiring options.

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Yes. So this is the telescope electronics and over here the

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PSE and PDU which distributes power base four. This is bay

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four, it's still being completed. This is the kind of

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the brains of the spacecraft.

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With the wiring in place and tested. The team will continue

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installing all the components into the primary structure over

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the course of the next year.

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And in that report from NASA TV, we heard from harness transfer

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engineer Lee Huber and electrical engineer, Alex

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Petrov, both from NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt

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Maryland. This is Space Time still to come exploring

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uncharted territory in the search for new physics.

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And later in the science report, a new study shows that

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biologically female surgeons are actually better at their jobs

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than their biological male counterparts. Good to know if

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you're planning a big op all that are more still to come on

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Space Time.

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The most precise measurement ever undertaken on the

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elementary particle's magnetism suggests that the Standard Model

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of particle physics is probably right after all, the Standard

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Model is the foundation stone of science's understanding of the

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universe. Researchers are continuously trying to break it

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down in search of new physics.

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Beyond the Standard Model. For example, we know that the

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Standard Model doesn't take account of two really important

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things, dark energy and dark matter. And that raises the

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question, what else is missing. Their latest attempt involves

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the hunt for a discrepancy between predicted and measured

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values of the magnetic moment of the muon.

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A heavier cousin to the electron had it been found, it would have

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been seen as a possible signal of undiscovered subatomic

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particles physicist with the muon G two experiment at the US

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Department Of Energy's Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory

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Fermi Lab have now doubled the precision of the previous best

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measurement to an estimated error rate of just 201 parts per

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billion.

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So they now have a brand new measurement for a property of

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the muon called the anomalous magnetic moment. And it improves

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the precision of their previous result by a factor of two.

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The result shows there may not be any sort of discrepancy to

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explain. That's because the new value bolsters the first result

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announced back in April 2021 Brendan Casey, a senior

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scientist at Fermilab who's worked as part of the muon G two

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experiment since 2008 says scientists have really been

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probing new territory here by making predictions based on the

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Standard Model.

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And then comparing those predictions to the experimental

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results, scientists can discern whether or not the theory is

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complete or if there's some physics beyond the Standard

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Model, that's still missing muons are fundamental particles

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that are similar to electrons.

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But about 200 times as massive like electrons muons have tiny

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internal magnets that in the presence of a magnetic field

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pres or wobble sort of like the axis of a spinning top. The

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precision speed in a given magnetic field depends on the

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muons magnetic moment Now, that 's typically represented by the

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letter G at the simplest level theory predicts that G should

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equal two.

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And the difference of G from two or G minus two can be attributed

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to the muons interactions with particles in the quantum firm

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that surrounds it quantum firm consists of particle pairs

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constantly springing into and out of existence.

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Think of it as energy transforming into matter and

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then becoming energy. Again, these particles blink into and

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out of existence. And like subatomic dance partners grab

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the muons hand and change the way the muon interacts with the

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magnetic field.

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Now, the Standard Model of particle physics incorporates

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all known dance partner particles and predicts how the

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quantum foam changes. G and physicists were excited about

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the possible existence of a yet to be discovered particle that

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could contribute to the value of G two because that would open a

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window to exploring new physics.

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But like we said, the new experimental result based on the

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first three years of data and reported in the journal physical

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review letters backs the earlier measurement and moves it forward

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corresponding to a position of 0.20 parts per million. With

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this measurement, the collaborations already reached

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their goal of decreasing.

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One particular type of uncertainty uncertainty caused

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by experimental imperfections known as systematic

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uncertainties is while the total systematic uncertainty has

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already surpassed the design goal, the larger aspect of

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uncertainty, statistical uncertainty is driven by the

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total amount of data analyzed, it can never disappear, it just

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gets smaller and the results available will add an additional

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two years of data to their first result.

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The Fermilab experiment will reach its ultimate statistical

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uncertainty once scientists incorporate all six years of

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data into their analysis. And that's something the

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collaboration hopes to achieve within the next couple of years

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to make their measurements.

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The muon G two collaboration repeatedly sent a beam of muons

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into a 15.24 m diameter superconducting magnetic storage

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ring where they were circulated 1000 times at nearly the speed

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of light detectors lining the small particle accelerator ring

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allowed scientists to determine how rapidly the muons were

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processing.

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Physicists need to then also precisely measure the strength

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of the magnetic field to then determine the value of G two.

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The Fermilab experiment reused the seam storage ring originally

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built for its predecessor, the my chi two experiment at the

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Brookhaven National Laboratory which was conducted back in

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2001. In 2013. The collaboration transported the ring from Long

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Island, New York to Batavia Illinois.

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And over the next four years, the collaboration reassembled

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the experiment and improved their techniques,

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instrumentation and simulations. The main goal of the Fermilab

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experiment was to reduce the uncertainty of G two by a factor

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of four compared to the Brookhaven result.

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In addition to the larger data set, the latest G two

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measurements are enhanced by updates to the Fermi lab

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experiment itself. In fact, the experiment was firing on all

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cylinders for the final three years of data taking, which came

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to an end on July the 9th, 2023. That's when the collaboration

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finally shut off the muon beam.

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Thereby concluding the experiment after six years of

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data collection, they reach their goal of collecting a data

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set. That's more than 21 times the size of Brookhaven's data

00:24:05
set. Physicists can calculate the effect of the known Standard

00:24:09
Model dance partners on muon G two to incredible precision.

00:24:13
The calculations consider the electromagnetic, the weak and

00:24:16
strong nuclear forces including photons, electrons quarks gluons

00:24:21
neutrinos, both Z and W bosons and the Higgs boson. If the

00:24:26
Standard Model is correct, the ultra precise prediction should

00:24:29
match the experimental measurements. Calculating the

00:24:32
Standard Model prediction for my G two was very challenging.

00:24:36
Back in 2020 the muon G two theory initiative announced the

00:24:40
best Standard Model prediction for muon G two available at that

00:24:44
time. But the new experimental measurements of the data that

00:24:47
feeds into the prediction and a new calculation based on a

00:24:50
different theoretical approach known as lattice gauge theory

00:24:53
are in tension with the 2020 calculation.

00:24:57
Scientists on the muon G Two theory initiative aim to have

00:25:00
their new improved prediction available in the next couple of

00:25:03
years. That'll consider both theoretical approaches.

00:25:07
The collaboration anticipates releasing their final most

00:25:10
precise measurement of the muons magnetic moment in 2025 in the

00:25:14
process setting up the ultimate showdown between the Standard

00:25:18
Model theory and experiment. Needless to say we'll keep you

00:25:22
informed. This is Space Time and time. Had to take another brief

00:25:42
look at some of the other stories making news in science.

00:25:45
This week with the science report, a new study has

00:25:48
confirmed that adults with type two diabetes who replace sugary

00:25:52
drinks with coffee, tea or plain water, wind up having lower

00:25:55
rates of early death due to cardiovascular disease or other

00:25:58
causes. The findings reported in the British Medical journal drew

00:26:02
on data from 15 American adults at an average age of 61

00:26:08
74 per cent of whom were women.

00:26:10
All of them had type two diabetes. The authors found that

00:26:14
participants with the highest rates of sugary drinks, meaning

00:26:17
more than one serving a day wind up with a 20 per cent increased

00:26:20
risk of death from any cause compared to participants with

00:26:23
the lowest intake rate of less than one serving per month.

00:26:27
Now, in contrast, high intakes of certain beverages up to six

00:26:31
daily servings were associated with lower mortality. 26 per

00:26:35
cent less for coffee drinkers, 21 per cent for tea, 23 per cent

00:26:39
for plain water and 12 per cent for low fat milk.

00:26:43
Paleontologists have discovered the remains of an ancient marine

00:26:47
reptile that may have been a filter feeder just like modern

00:26:50
Baleen Whales. A report in the journal BMC ecology and

00:26:55
evolution claims Houk's Nans, the remains of which have been

00:26:59
dug up in China had skulls with small features similar to modern

00:27:03
day bowhead or Riot whales.

00:27:05
The authors say the skulls had unusual toothless snouts and

00:27:09
there were grooves around the roof of the mouth which indicate

00:27:12
there may have been soft tissue there that played a similar role

00:27:15
to the bale filters found in some modern day whales.

00:27:19
The researchers also note a loose lower jaw that would have

00:27:22
allowed the IOS sour like reptile to open its mouth wide

00:27:26
enough to take in large gulps of water and a rigid body.

00:27:30
Suggesting this may have been a slow swimmer that fed in a style

00:27:33
very similar to modern day whales which swim with their

00:27:36
mouths open near the surface of the ocean and strain food from

00:27:40
the water.

00:27:41
The team says these findings could be an example of

00:27:44
convergent evolution where similar features evolved

00:27:47
independently in different species. Houk's Nanine dates

00:27:51
back to the Early Triassic Of The Hubei Province and may have

00:27:55
reached over a meter in length.

00:27:58
A new study has shown that on average biological female

00:28:02
surgeons perform better than their biological male

00:28:04
counterparts. The findings reported in the journal of the

00:28:08
American Medical Association are based on a joint Canadian us

00:28:11
study of more than a million Canadian patients who underwent

00:28:14
surgery.

00:28:16
The authors found that those treated by biologically female

00:28:19
surgeons were less likely than those treated by biological male

00:28:22
surgeons to have post operative problems 90 days and one year

00:28:26
after surgery, the researchers say they don't know exactly why

00:28:30
biological females make better surgeons than biological males

00:28:34
or what could be done to bring biological male surgeons up to

00:28:38
the standards of their biological female colleagues.

00:28:41
They say that should be the subject of further study.

00:28:46
It's the story. Big Garlic didn't want you to hear. An

00:28:49
Australian Garlic company is claiming their research shows

00:28:52
that locally grown garlic has demonstrated a 99.9 per cent

00:28:56
efficacy against viruses that cause COVID-19 and the common

00:29:00
flu.

00:29:01
The company's press release claims certain unique Australian

00:29:05
grown garlic varieties demonstrate antiviral activity.

00:29:08
Trouble is they didn't give any details on exactly what these

00:29:12
garlic varieties were or why they may have more antiviral

00:29:16
properties.

00:29:17
And the claims have now been strongly condemned by

00:29:20
scientists, Dr Ian Musgrave, a senior lecturer in Pharmacology

00:29:24
with the University Of Adelaide says that until clinical trials

00:29:28
have been done, no claims can be made about the effects of these

00:29:31
extracts for the prevention of treatments like influenza, let

00:29:34
alone COVID-19.

00:29:36
And Tim Mendham from Australian skeptics points out Australian

00:29:39
garlic producers neglected to mention that the studies had not

00:29:42
been published, meaning they've not been peer reviewed nor do

00:29:46
they mention that these studies were limited to test tube

00:29:48
results and not trialed on people.

00:29:51
A recent story appeared in the press suggesting that garlic

00:29:55
could be used as a cure for COVID-19 and for influenza and

00:29:59
various other things like that. Now, this surprised a lot of

00:30:01
people and there was a bit of digging going on by skeptics

00:30:04
that the story came from a garlic company.

00:30:08
Apparently they had funded research that was done at the

00:30:11
Peter Doherty Institute in Melbourne, which is a pretty

00:30:13
well known and respected medical research institute named after

00:30:18
an Australian Nobel Prize winner. So it's got some street

00:30:20
cred there. The trouble is with this research was it didn't

00:30:23
actually say what the claim was, the research was done on garlic.

00:30:28
But in Vitra, as they say, which means it might be useful for

00:30:32
treating test tube, but it's not necessarily proven for treating

00:30:35
people. And that was a criticism of it which the Doherty

00:30:38
Institute itself admitted. They said it's not done in humans,

00:30:41
the real world it's done in test tubes.

00:30:43
So therefore, really you take a long leap to suggest that there

00:30:46
are definite benefits from it. One of the problems was that one

00:30:49
of the Doherty staff said made a comment to the press that the

00:30:52
garlic is known to be good for killing bacteria. It's long been

00:30:55
used in additional Chinese medicine.

00:30:57
Probably that of course, is a COVID influenza of viruses but

00:31:00
not bacteria. And traditional Chinese medicine has a lot of

00:31:03
problems with it with a lot of the very, very strange

00:31:05
treatments that are included in it. So this very quickly was

00:31:09
shot down the story.

00:31:10
Unfortunately for people who are suffering, they're saying

00:31:12
chewing on a bit of garlic is not proven to be able to help

00:31:15
you put it that way, not proven. I mean, no one's going to say

00:31:17
some way down the track. It shows it has some benefit, but

00:31:20
certainly as far as this particular research, it was over

00:31:23
hyped to the extreme.

00:31:24
Does it give you a French accent? May we? That's Tim Ende

00:31:28
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