Stellar Mysteries: Unravelling Betelgeuse's Companion and Mars' Rock Enigmas
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Stellar Mysteries: Unravelling Betelgeuse's Companion and Mars' Rock Enigmas

In this episode of SpaceTime, we dive into the depths of cosmic mysteries and groundbreaking discoveries, including the enigmatic Long Period Transient and the stellar companion of Betelgeuse, alongside exciting findings from Mars.
Unraveling the Long Period Transient
Astronomers have uncovered a new cosmic phenomenon, ASCAP J1832-0911, which emits both radio and X-ray pulses every 44 minutes for just two minutes at a time. This first-ever detection of a Long Period Transient has left scientists puzzled about its nature and origins. Lead author Dr Andy Wang from Curtin University discusses the potential theories, including the possibility of a magnetar or a binary star system, while emphasizing the need for further observations to unravel this cosmic mystery.
Betelgeuse's Stellar Companion
In a remarkable discovery, astronomers have identified a stellar companion orbiting the red supergiant Betelgeuse. This pre-main sequence star, approximately one and a half times the mass of the Sun, resides within Betelgeuse's outer atmosphere. As Betelgeuse approaches the end of its life, this companion is also on a collision course with destiny, likely spiraling into Betelgeuse within the next 10,000 years. This finding could shed light on the periodic brightness changes observed in similar red supergiant stars.
Mars Perseverance Rover's New Discoveries
NASA's Perseverance Rover continues its exploration of Jezero Crater, uncovering unusual rock formations that may reveal significant geological history. The rover is investigating an intriguing contact area where clay-bearing units meet olivine-rich rocks, potentially preserving evidence of ancient intrusive processes. Despite challenges in studying these formations, mission managers remain determined to unlock the secrets they hold about Mars' past.
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✍️ Episode References
Astrophysical Journal Letters
https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/1538-4357
NASA's Perseverance Rover Mission
https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/
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00:00 Space Time series 28 episode 90 for broadcast on 28 July 2025
00:47 Long Period Transient emitting radio and X ray pulses every 44 minutes
07:48 Astronomers have discovered what appears to be a companion star in binary orbit
12:30 NASA's Mars Perseverance Rover is continuing its exploration of Jetro Crater
15:00 New study links early smartphone use to poorer mental health later in life
17:39 There are new reports of Bigfoot activity in the Pacific Northwest state of Washington

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This is Space Time, Series 28, Episode 90, for broadcast on the

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28th of July, 2025. Coming up on Space Time, an amazing cosmic

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mystery deepens, discovery of a Stellar Companion to the red

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supergiant star Betelgeuse, and Perseverance discovers strange

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new rock formations on the Red Planet Mars. All that and more

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coming up on Space Time.

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Welcome to Space Time.

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With Stuart Gary.

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Astronomers are trying to resolve a cosmic mystery worthy

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of a detective story. They've discovered a new type of

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phenomenon, an object which they've catalogued as ASCAP

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J1832-0911.

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It's emitting both radio and X-ray pulses every 44 minutes,

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but these pulses are only lasting 2 minutes in duration.

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Astronomers have named this object a long-period transient,

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and it's the first time an object like this has ever been

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seen.

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The discovery made by ASCAP, the Australian Square Kilometre Ray

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Pathfinder Radio Telescope, a group of 36 12-metre parabolic

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dishes located at the Murchison Observatory in the Western

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Australian outback. Following its discovery, further

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observations were made using NASA's Earth-Orbiting Chandra

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X-Ray Observatory.

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The study's lead author Andy Wang, from the Curtin University

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node of the International Centre For Radio Astronomy Research,

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says this object's unlike anything ever seen before. There

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's no clear explanation for what 's causing these signals. Or why

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they switch on and off at such long, regular and unusual

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intervals.

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Now, since X-rays are much higher energy levels than radio

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waves, any theory needs to account for both types of

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emissions. And that could be a valuable clue, given their

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nature remains a cosmic mystery. Wang says it was fortunate that

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Chandra was looking at the same area of the sky as ASCAP at the

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same time.

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He thinks this mysterious object could be a magnetar, a highly

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magnetized neutron star, Or it could be a. Pair of stars in a

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binary system where one of the two is a highly magnetized white

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dwarf, the core of a dead Sun-like star.

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Trouble is, neither of those theories fully explain what's

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actually being observed. It means the discovery could

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indicate a new type of physics or new models of stellar

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evolution. Wang says detecting these objects using both X-rays

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and radio waves may help astronomers find more samples of

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them and learn more about them.

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As you can see in their names, like, they're gone, period. Yep.

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So. I will just try to explain each word one by one. So like

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non-period, because usually in the radio, what we saw are the

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pulsars, those that are stars, and they rotate pretty fast,

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every megaseconds to seconds.

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So if you see something like emit radio pulses every tenth of

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minutes or several hours, then you will say, all right,

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compared to those pulsars, they are non-period. And the second

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word is trillions. So the trillions are the things that

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just suddenly appear and disappear, so you can't...

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Imagine if something like the brightness of the source just

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becoming up and down, then we'll just say it is a transient. So

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you're a transient associated with some very energetic events

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in the universe. For example, the explosion of the star or

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very like energetic jets from the source, something like that.

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Where in the sky is this?

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It is right towards the galactic plane and it is about 15

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light years away from us.

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They're emitting wavelengths over a broad range of the

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electromagnetic spectrum?

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Yeah, right. We see the radio emission every 44 minutes

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compared to the normal pulse, they are seconds. So what makes

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this specific one special is that we also see periodic X-ray

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emission from it. Because there are, I would say, two main

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models to explain a long-period training. The first one is a

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very magnetized neutron star.

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However, we will expect to see X-ray emission from these kind

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of objects. As well. Despite we've already discovered about

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10 of them, none of them has been ever detected in X-ray. So

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this is the first one detected in X-ray. It also shows 44

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minutes period. So you know like some sources, they will have

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X-ray emission across the whole period.

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But for this one, you can still see pulses in X-ray as well. So

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this implies that this kind of sources is more energetic than

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what we thought because previously we didn't see similar

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objects. Emit X-ray emission and X-ray is at a higher energy than

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the radio band. And the second is we only see X-ray emission

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when the source was extremely radio bright.

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What we think is it can be a very slow rotating thing. I

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think it is a slow rotating magnetitar. So like a highly

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magnetized neutron star that rotates. Very slow. So to catch

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up X-ray things from similar objects, we need to be very

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lucky and we need to have very prompt reactions so that we can

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observe the source in X-ray in a timely manner.

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The other option, I guess, is the idea of the source being in

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a binary system with another star, most likely.

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For this source, it is slightly unlikely, but we already see

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lots of similar objects showing similar radio behavior. In other

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long-period transients. So the current idea is, I guess some of

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them are coming from a binary system where one star is what we

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call a white dwarf. White dwarf is like when our song is

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becoming a white dwarf. So heavy things will become neutron star

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and a lighter thing will become a white dwarf.

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One is a white dwarf and the other one is a normal star. And

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when a normal star just orbiting around the white dwarf, it will

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just produce the emission in radio band. But. Given the

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properties of this specific source, I would say it is

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unlikely, even though some other similar system has been

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discovered and confirmed to be such a system.

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It doesn't sound like a binary system.

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It's too hard. Otherwise, you should say 10 or 20 minutes of

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the source and then just walk. That is possible, but just two

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minutes is hard to explain.

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Yeah, that's not a normal light curve. No.

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We might be able to get more information from x-ray, but we

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don't collect enough. Information to confirm it. But

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next time, if the source becomes bright or we discover some new

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sources, we'll be able to get ready and get enough data we

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need to try to understand the nature of the source.

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It's a real mystery.

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You need to know more about this object. So we just write

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proposals to apply for times for telos around the world, try to

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catch more pulses. And we also contact some theoretical people

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to work out the nature of the source, even though by the end,

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we didn't come to a conclusion. What the source actually is.

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That's the study's lead author, Dr. Andy Wang, from the Curtin

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University node of the International Centre For Radio

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Astronomy Research. And this is Space Time.

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Still to come, discovery of a Stellar Companion to the red

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supergiant Betelgeuse, better known to many of our listeners

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as Betelgeuse, and NASA's Mars Perseverance Rovers discovered

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some strange new rock formations on the Red Planet, which are

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proving difficult to explain. All that and more still to come

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on Space Time.

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Astronomers have discovered what appears to be a companion star

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in a binary orbit with the red supergiant Betelgeuse, better

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known to many of our listeners as Betelgeuse. The findings,

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reported in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, show the binary

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companion is a pre-main sequence spectrotype B or possibly A

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blue-white star.

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It's about one and a half times the mass of the Sun and it

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hasn't yet commenced fusing hydrogen in its core. The

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companion is relatively close to the surface of Betelgeuse. About

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four times the distance between the Earth and the Sun. This

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discovery is the first example of a close-in Stellar Companion

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detected orbiting any supergiant.

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Even more impressive, companion orbits will within Betelgeuse's

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outer extended atmosphere. Betelgeuse is one of the 20

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brightest stars in the night sky, and it's also the closest

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red supergiant to Earth. It has an enormous volume, spanning a

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radius of around 700 times that of the Sun.

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In fact, were it where our Sun is in our solar system, its

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surface would extend out almost as far as the orbit of Jupiter.

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Despite being just 10 million years old, which is considered

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young by astronomical standards, Betelgeuse is reaching the end

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of its life, having already left the main sequence, no longer

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fusing hydrogen in its core, but helium, and burning hydrogen in

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an outer shell.

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Consequently, Betelgeuse is ruling its way to becoming a

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supernova. And that could happen any day now. Which in

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astronomical terms could mean tomorrow or it could mean in a

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million years from now. When it does explode, it'll be so

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bright, you'll be able to easily see it shining in broad daylight

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for many months on end.

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Betelgeuse is located on the shoulder of the constellation

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Orion the Hunter. People have been observing Betelgeuse as a

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naked-eye star for millennia, noticing that the star changes

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in brightness over time.

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So far, astronomers have established that Betelgeuse has

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a main periodicity of variability of around 400 days,

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but it also has a second more extended periodicity of around 6

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years. And so there are these constant pulsations going on.

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Now you may recall back in 2019 and 2020 there were growing

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concerns that Betelgeuse was about to go supernova.

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That's because it suddenly displayed a steep decrease in

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brightness, an event now being referred to as the Great

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Dimming. Eventually, astronomers determined the dimming was

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actually caused by a large cloud of dust ejected from Betelgeuse

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itself. The great dimming mystery was solved, but the

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event did spark renewed interest in studying Betelgeuse, which

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resulted in a new analysis of existing archival data on the

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star.

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Now, one analysis led astronomers to propose that the

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cause of Betelgeuse's six-year variability was the presence of

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a small companion star. But observations by both the Hubble

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Space Telescope and the Chandra X-Ray Observatory found nothing.

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However, Stephen Howe from NASA 's Ames Research Center

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eventually tracked down a Stellar Companion using the

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Alepeki speckle imager on the Gemini North telescope in

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Hawaii. Speckle imaging is a technique that uses very short

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exposure times in order to freeze out distortions in images

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caused by things like Earth's atmosphere.

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The technique enables high resolution, which when combined

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with the light collecting power of the Gemini North's 8.1 meter

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mirror finally allowed Betelgeuse's faint companion to

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be directly seen. Betelgeuse and its companion star were likely

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born at the same time.

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And as Betelgeuse is running out of time, so too is its

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companion, which will have its lifespan shortened as strong

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tidal forces will cause it to spiral into Betelgeuse and meet

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its demise, which scientists estimate should occur within the

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next 10 years. This discovery could help explain why

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similar red supergiant stars may also undergo periodic changes in

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their brightness on the scale of years.

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Another opportunity to study Betelgeuse's Stellar Companion

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will occur in November 2027, when it returns to its further

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separation from Betelgeuse, and thus will be easier to detect.

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This is Space Time. Still to come, NASA's Mars Perseverance

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Rover's continuous exploration of the rim of the Red Planet's

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Jezero Crater has found some unusual rock formations which

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are unusual to explain.

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And later in the science report... A new study warns that

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kids who get their first smartphone before their 13th

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birthday end up being more likely to experience poorer

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mental health once they're adults. All that and more still

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to come on Space Time.

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NASA's Mars Perseverance Rover is continuing its exploration of

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the rim of the Red Planet's Jezero Crater. The six-wheel

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car-sized Merbo laboratory has been travelling in a westerly

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direction to a new site which scientists have named Westport.

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It's a region where the clay-bearing crocodilian unit,

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which we've talked about before on the show, meets an

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olivine-bearing rock formation.

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Now it's possible that these olivine-rich rocks may be an

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intrusive igneous unit, meaning they could have been formed when

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molten magma from deep within Mars pushed its way up and then

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cooled just below the surface.

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Now, if that's the case, Westport could be preserving a

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dramatic moment in Martian history when hot and molten

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material intruded into existing rock formations. These intrusive

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processes are common here on Earth, and the heat from the

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intruding magma can fundamentally alter the

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surrounding geology through a process which geologists call

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contact metamorphism. The heat from the intrusion literally

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bakes nearby rocks.

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In the process creating new minerals and potentially new

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environments for microbial life. At the same time, the intrusive

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material is getting rapidly chilled as they meet the

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pre-existing solid rock formations above. So at West

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Point, Perseverance is looking for evidence that the

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crocodilian rocks at the contact point were indeed baked, and

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that the olivine-bearing rocks there were chilled.

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Images from the Mastcam-Z instrument are revealing that

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this contact area is littered with intriguing dark rubbly

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rocks alongside lighter toned smooth boulders. But both rock

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types are proving challenging to study.

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You see the dark fragments are too small and rough for

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Perseverance's standard abrasion techniques. Still the rover has

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cleared off the surface of one of the rocks called Holyrood Bay

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using its dust removal tool for a closer examination.

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Perseverance also tried to abrade one of the nearby smooth

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boulders. This one's been named Drake's Point.

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But the rock shifted to the side, causing the abrasion to

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stop short. Nevertheless, the science questions being raised

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here are so compelling that mission managers will continue

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to try and look inside these boundary rocks in order to find

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out more about them and what's going on. Needless to say, we'll

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keep you informed. This is Space Time.

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Time now to take a brief look at some of the other stories making

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news in science this week with a science report. And a new study

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warns that children who get their first smartphone before

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their 13th birthday are more likely to end up with poorer

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mental health during their early adulthood.

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The findings, reported in the Journal Of Human Development And

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Capabilities, are based on data from a global mental health

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study which looked at people aged 18 to 24. The authors

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compared a range of mental health factors with how early

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participants received their first smartphones.

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They found that receiving a smartphone at the age of 12 or

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less was linked to a lower overall level of mental health,

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with this link strongest for suicidal thoughts, aggression,

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detachment from reality and hallucinations. The authors say

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that much of this link to poorer mental health may be explained

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by access to social media, cyberbullying, disrupted sleep

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and poor family relationships.

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A new study has confirmed that a series of global marine heat

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waves in 2023 were unprecedented in their intensity persistence

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and scale. The findings reported in the journal Science showed

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that these ocean heatwaves covered some 96% of the global

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marine area in 2023, and they lasted for an average of 120

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days.

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Now the authors say the primary factors driving these heatwaves

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varied in different regions, but in the southwestern Pacific

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Ocean area, the heatwaves were primarily being driven by a

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strong high-pressure system which disrupted prevailing

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westerlies. The authors warn that these ocean heat waves may

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be indicating an early sign of some sort of tipping point in

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the Earth's climatic systems.

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A new study claims that walking at least 7 steps a day has

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the potential to reduce your risk for several serious health

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outcomes, including premature death, heart disease, cancer,

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dementia and depression. The findings, reported in the Lancet

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Medical Journal, are based on over 160 people in 31

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studies.

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The authors say 7 steps per day was linked to a 47%

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reduction in the risk of all-cause mortality, a 25%

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reduction in the risk of cardiovascular disease, a 6%

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lower risk of cancer, a 14% reduction in type 2 diabetes, a

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38% drop in dementia, a 22% drop in depression, and a 28% drop in

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falls.

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Interesting, the authors found that after 7 steps, the

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benefits tended to level off. Additionally, the authors also

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showed that even a modest step count, say around 2 steps

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per day, was also linked to better health when compared to

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very low activity levels.

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There are new reports today of Sasquatch activity in the

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Pacific Northwest state of Washington. The area already has

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one of the highest levels of reported Bigfoot sightings in

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the world, and these latest reports involve a Sasquatch

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staring at someone through a window.

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Tim Mendham from Australian Skeptics says, the alleged

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victim of this peeping Tom hominid, didn't manage to take a

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few snapshots. But as always seems to happen in these cases,

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they only really ended up with swatch blobs.

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This follows the trend, this continual trend of Bigfoot,

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UFOs, blockchain sponsors, whatever, that people never seem

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to have a good camera with them. This is someone living in a

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cabin in the wilderness of Washington State, northwest of

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the USA, Bigfoot country.

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Suddenly they looked up and there was Bigfoot staring

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through the window at them. And they managed to get a couple of

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photos off. Presumably with their phone. I'm not quite sure

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whether it was a phone or a proper camera or whatever. And

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they're terrible photos.

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One of the photos, the front-on one, shows what looks like a

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Great Dane.

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Or it looks like someone with a mask or it looks like all sorts

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of things. It's pretty unimpressive just because of the

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fact that the photo is rubbish. It's fuzzy. Phone cameras are

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pretty good these days. You know, very good, in fact. And if

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you want to take a decent photo that's sharp, you're probably

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going to have a better job doing it with a phone camera than with

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any other sort of camera, especially at short notice.

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But there's several photos. That 's not like this person looked

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up, there was a... The Bigfoot and they ran off. He managed to

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get a few photos taken, at least two if not more, and all of them

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are fuzzy. Now you think, goodness gracious, why? Why are

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these photos fuzzy? Unfortunately, there's no

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evidence for Bigfoot.

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There's nothing sort of definitive that comes down to

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show that Bigfoot exists, including how many of them are

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they, are they breeding? Although every state in America

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has apparently a Bigfoot and basically every country in the

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world has a Bigfoot version of some sort or another, including

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Australia, including Singapore, which is interesting. It's not a

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very big place.

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Wasn't the thing of Boreas, Bigfoot, a wino living in the

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park?

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Oh, there were a wino living in the park. It was a soldier. The

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old story of a Japanese soldier who still thinks the war's on. I

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don't think they've seen it for a while.

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There'll be a hundred now, but.

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There'll be more. They haven't seen it for a while. Okay. It

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was in a, basically, what is a large park. I mean, there's

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pathways, walkways through it. So it's not like it's a

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wilderness. But yeah, every country has their big feet.

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Uh-uh-uh. It's Bigfoots.

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Bigfoots?

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Bigfoots, I've been officially told.

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Bigfoots. Foot, three big foot, three penguins, three sheep, one

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sheep, two sheep, three sheep. So, okay, big foot. Anyway, no

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evidence for big foot. What evidence there is presented is

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pretty poor.

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That's Tim Endham from Australian Skeptics.

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