Unveiling Martian Secrets, Shielding Europa Clipper, and India's Astronaut Ambitions | S26E131
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Unveiling Martian Secrets, Shielding Europa Clipper, and India's Astronaut Ambitions | S26E131

The Space News Podcast. SpaceTime Series 26 Episode 131 *Mystery of the Martian core solved A new study of data from NASA’s Mars Insight lander mission has concluded that the Martian liquid metallic core is both smaller and denser than previously thought -- but also that it’s surrounded by a layer of molten rock. *Protecting Europa Clipper from Jupiter’s immense radiation Engineers have just completed the final piece of armour designed to protect NASA’s Europa clipper spacecraft from intense radiation during its mission to explore the Jovian ice moon Europa. *India launches its first crew capsule India has carried out a successful test flight of its new manned capsule which will the subcontinent’s first astronauts into orbit in 2025. *The Science Report A new study warns that future increases in ice-shelf melting in the West Antarctic are now potentially unavoidable. Claims vegetarianism may be partly related to your genes. Eastern Mediterranean was once a region of green savannahs and grasslands that provided an ideal passage for multiple early human movements out of Africa. Alex on Tech new AI chips and happy 22nd birthday to the I-pod. If you love this podcast, please get someone else to listen to. Thank you… To become a SpaceTime supporter and unlock commercial free editions of the show, gain early access and bonus content, please visit https://bitesz.supercast.com/ . Premium version now available via Spotify and Apple Podcasts. For more podcasts visit our HQ at https://bitesz.com Your support is needed... **Support SpaceTime with Stuart Gary: Be Part of Our Cosmic Journey!** SpaceTime is fueled by passion, not big corporations or grants. We're on a mission to become 100% listener-supported, allowing us to focus solely on bringing you riveting space stories without the interruption of ads. 🌌 **Here's where you shine:** Help us soar to our goal of 1,000 subscribers! Whether it's just $1 or more, every contribution propels us closer to a universe of ad-free content. **Elevate Your Experience:** By joining our cosmic family at the $5 tier, you'll unlock: - Over 350 commercial-free, triple episode editions. - Exclusive extended interviews. - Early access to new episodes every Monday. Dive in with a month's free trial on Supercast and discover the universe of rewards waiting for you! 🌠 🚀 [Join the Journey with SpaceTime](https://bitesznetwork.supercast.tech/) 🌟 [Learn More About Us](https://spacetimewithstuartgary.com) Together, let's explore the cosmos without limits!

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This is Space Time series 26 episode, 100 and 31 for

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broadcast on the first of November 2023. Coming up on

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Space Time solving the mystery of the Martian Corps protecting

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the Europa Clipper mission from Jupiter's immense radiation

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belts and India preparing for its first manned mission into

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space. All that and more coming up on Space Time.

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Welcome to Space Time with Stuart Gary.

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A new study of data by NASA's Mars Insight land emission has

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concluded that the Martian liquid metallic core is both

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smaller and denser than previously thought and also that

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it's surrounded by a layer of molten rock.

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The findings are reported in the journal nature are based on a

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fresh analysis of Mars quakes recorded by insight combined

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with computer simulations, the analysis shows that the average

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density of the Martian core is significantly lower than that of

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pure liquid iron.

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The new observations also show that the Martian Corp is

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somewhere around 1650 to 1700 kilometers in radius which is

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about 50 per cent of the planet 's overall radius and well down

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from the 1800 to 1850 kilometers previously estimated NASA's Mars

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inside land has spent four years on the red planet's surface

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recording tremors with its seismometer before finally

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ending its mission in December last year.

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Now, a new analysis of the recorded Mars quakes combined

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with the new computer simulations is painting a very

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different picture of the planet 's interior. The key discovery

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is that sandwiched between Mars' liquid Ron alloy core and its

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solid silicate mantle lies a layer of liquid silicate magma

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about 150 kilometers thick.

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Now, the Earth doesn't have an equivalent completely molten

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silicate layer like that. The New Martian discovery resolves a

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mystery that researchers have until now been unable to

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explain. See an analysis of Mars quakes has shown that the

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average density of the Martian core had to be significantly

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lower than that of pure liquid iron Earth core.

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For example, consists of about 90 per cent iron by mass. Light

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elements such as sulfur, carbon, oxygen and hydrogen make up the

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remaining 10 per cent. But initial estimates for the

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density of the Martian core showed that it was composed of a

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much larger share of lighter elements around 20 per cent by

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mass.

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And that's not really possible. It's not based on our current

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understanding of planetary formation scenarios. If the

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Martian core is smaller than previously thought, but still

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had the same mass. It follows that its density is greater and

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that it therefore contains fewer light elements according to the

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new calculations.

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The proportion of light elements dropped to between nine and 14

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per cent by mass. Now, that's still somewhat low but no longer

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inexplicable in the context of typical planetary formation

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scenarios.

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The fact that the Martian core contains a significant amount of

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light elements indicates that it must have formed very early,

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possibly when the nascent sun was still surrounded by its

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protoplanetary disc from which the light elements could have

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accumulated into the Martian core. The initial Martian core

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calculations had all been based on tremors that had occurred in

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close proximity to the inside lander.

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However, in August and September 2021 the seismometer registered

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two quakes on opposite sides of Mars. One of them was caused by

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a meteorite impact that produced seismic waves that traversed the

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core. And this allowed scientists to illuminate and

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study the core. In the case of the earlier Mars quakes.

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By contrast, the waves were all reflected at the core mantle

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boundary, providing no real information about the deepest

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interior of the red planet. As a result of these new

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observations, the authors were able to determine the density

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and seismic wave speed of the fluid core up to a depth of

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about 1000 kilometers supercomputer simulations were

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then employed to infer the composition of the core.

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However, when the authors compared the calculated profiles

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with their measurements based on the inside seismic data, they

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found that the probable core composition simply didn't work

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at the core mantle boundary for example, the iron alloy would

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have contained much more carbon than the core's interior.

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After a lot of head scratching, they eventually realized that

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this region previously considered to be part of the

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outer liquid iron core wasn't part of the core at all.

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But instead it was the very deepest part of the mantle proof

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came when the authors found that the density and seismic wave

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speed measured and computed in the outermost 150 kilometers of

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the core was consistent with those of liquid silicates. The

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same material that the Martian mantle is composed of rather

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than liquid iron.

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Further analysis of earlier Mars quakes using the new simulation

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data then confirm the results. This is Space Time still to come

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protecting NASA's Europa Clipper mission from Jupiter's intense

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radiation belts and India preparing for its first manned

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mission into space. All that and more coming up on Space Time.

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Engineers have just completed the final piece of armor

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designed to protect NASA's Europa Clipper mission

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spacecraft from the intense radiation bombardment. It's

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going to suffer during its mission to explore the Jovian

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Iceman. Europa. Europa's icy crust is thought to cover a

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massive global subsurface ocean containing more water than all

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the seas on Earth combined.

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It's an environment which scientists speculate could be

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habitable. You see massive gravitational tides caused by

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Jupiter and nearby moons are stretching and squeezing tiny

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Europa generating heat and keeping the ocean's liquid under

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an icy shell. Scientists speculate that hydrothermal

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springs could exist on Europa's sea floor, similar to the

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hydrothermal vents found along Earth's mid ocean ridges.

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Now here on Earth, these mid ocean ridge vents provide

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nutrients for an ecosystem teeming with life but isolated

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well below the surface. There's no photosynthesis down there,

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but there is chemosynthesis. It 's an ecosystem that exists

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completely independent of life at the surface. In fact, some

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scientists speculate it may be here where life on Earth

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actually began.

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NASA's Europa Clipper mission which will launch in a year from

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now will try to determine if the same thing could be happening or

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could have happened in the distant seas of Europa. But to

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explore the mysterious ice encrusted world of Europa, the

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mission will need to endure constant bombardment by

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radiation and a stream of high energy particles surrounding

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Jupiter.

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In fact, next to the sun, Jupiter, the largest planet in

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our solar system also has the most punishing radiation

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environment in the solar system. Jupiter's gigantic magnetic

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field is some 20 times stronger than Earth's and it

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spins rapidly in time with the planet's 10 hour rotational

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period.

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This field captures and accelerates charged particles

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from Jupiter's space environment, creating powerful

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radiation belts. And so like NASA's Juno mission, which is

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currently exploring Jupiter's composition and evolution.

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Europa Clipper will also need to protect itself from all that

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radiation. And like Juno, it'll do so in two ways.

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Firstly, by flying an orbital trajectory which tries to avoid

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as much of the Jovian radiation belts as possible. See when the

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spacecraft arrives at Jupiter in 2030 Europa Clipper simply won't

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park in orbit around Europa. Instead it'll make a series of

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wide ranging orbits around Jupiter, moving well away from

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the planet and its harsh radiation environment for as

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long as possible.

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These highly elongated looping orbits will then swoop down

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around Europa spending as little time in the danger zone as

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possible and it will do this nearly 50 times to gather enough

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scientific data. Now, the second part of the radiation protection

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process again like Juno involves placing the probe's delicate

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electronics in a special armor plated sealed vault.

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And Europa Clipper engineers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory

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in Pasadena, California have just sealed that vault with the

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electronics inside Europa Clipper. Deputy Flight System

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engineer Kendra Short from JPL says closing the vault is a

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major milestone in the mission.

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It means everything's in there that has to be in there and it's

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all functioning properly. The one centimeter thick aluminum

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vault houses the sophisticated electronics for the spacecraft

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suite of science instruments.

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The alternative shielding each set of electronic components

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individually would have added not just cost but also immense

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weight spacecraft JP Planetary scientist, Tom Nordheim says the

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Jovian radiation belts so intense that scientists believe

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it modifies the surface of Europa causing a visible color

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change. In fact, the radiation on the surface of Europa really

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is a major geologic modification process.

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Nordheim says Europa's reddish brown color is caused by

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consistent radiation processing once Europa Clipper arrives at

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its destination, nor I will zero in on the frozen world's chaotic

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terrain areas. Places where blocks of surface material

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appear to have broken apart, rotated and moved into new

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positions. In many cases, preserving pre existing linear

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fractures and patterns.

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Some areas of Europa's surface show evidence of material

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transport from the sub surface using plumes and cryo volcanism.

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Nordheim says scientists need to understand the context of how

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radiation modified that material radiation can alter the chemical

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makeup of material because Euro its oceans are locked inside an

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envelope of ice.

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Any possible life forms that might exist in those seas

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wouldn't be able to directly rely on sunlight for energy as

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plants do here on Earth instead like the ecosystems around Earth

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's mid ocean ridges. They'd need alternative energy sources such

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as heat and chemical energy.

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But radiation raining down on Europa surface could also help

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provide such a resource by creating oxidants such as oxygen

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and hydrogen peroxide. As the radiation interacts with the

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surface ice layer. Over time, these oxidants might be

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transported from the surface down to the oceans below through

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this chaotic terrain. So in this way, scientists could use the

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European surface as a winner on its sub surface.

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Europa Clipper's main science goals are to determine whether

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there are places below the moon 's icy surface that could

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support life, determining the thickness of the moon's icy

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shell, its surface interactions with the ocean below and to

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investigate its composition and characterize its geology. This

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report from NASA TV.

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NASA's Europa Clipper will explore an icy moon of Jupiter

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to see if there are conditions that could support life. Let's

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head into the spacecraft assembly facility behind me to

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see how the mission is coming together.

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I'm Raquel Vin Nueva here today with Jordan Evans and Trina Ray

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before we can head inside. There is one more step we need to

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take.

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We have to gown up. We have to protect the spacecraft from us.

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All the particles that might fall off of us. So to cover our

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hair, we have to not wear makeup, no perfume. The Europa

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Clipper mission is a spacecraft that we're sending out to the

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Jupiter system. It's got to orbit Jupiter but fly by the

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moon Europa and it's a moon that is, we think has an ocean

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underneath and we want to investigate.

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That we'll be in this room until we ship to the Kennedy Space

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Center for our launch campaign in the late spring of next year

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2024. During that time, it will make a couple of trips out of

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this building for testing.

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We have so many questions about Europa. We have an icy crust

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with an ocean underneath and the water that's in that ocean has

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been sort of, you know, churning and stewing for like 4 billion

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years and So we've got a lot of questions to try to answer about

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the interior or about the geology or about the

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composition.

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To answer those scientific questions. Obviously, we have to

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get to Europa first. So one of the key elements of the

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spacecraft design is being able to bolt the spacecraft onto the

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rocket that will give us the energy we need to get to

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Jupiter. And then once we're at Jupiter, being able to electric

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power and accommodate our very large solar panels and our very

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large high gain antenna to send that science data back to Earth.

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And all of that has to be done with materials that are safe for

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the immense radiation environment at Europa starting

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at the far end, that's the interface of the launch vehicle.

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That's where we bolt Europa Clipper to the falcon heavy

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rocket.

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And from there inside there are propulsion tanks from sensitive

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communications electronics where our large high gain antenna

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mount, there's some paper on the outside and those are actually

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patterns for the sewing that's required on our thermal

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blankets, thermal blankets with the right optical properties to

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maintain the temperatures of the vehicle as well as provide

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protection for micro Meteors, Trina.

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Can you kind of tell us more about the instruments?

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We don't have all of our instruments on board yet. But

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what we do have are three of our cameras. We have cameras that

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operate in the visible. We have cameras that operate in the

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infrared cameras that operate in the ultraviolet, those all look

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at Europa at the same time just in different wavelengths.

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But then we also have a thermal imager. So think of that as like

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the like the night vision goggles, right? So what you're

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looking for there is a thermal signature. So imagine you have

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this ocean that's churning away and it makes the ice right above

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it a little bit warm. And so the thermal imager will be able to

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tell you that.

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And in the spacecraft up close, I just want to know what does

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this mission mean to the both of you.

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It represents the hundreds of thousands, the millions of hours

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of the dedicated engineers and technicians and scientists.

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I treasure my job every day. I come to work and I'm like we're

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going to do our part, we're going to answer these questions,

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but we're going to ask the next questions for the next

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generation to be inspired and to build their spacecraft.

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And go this Space Time. Still to come in, India continues with

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preparations to launch its first manned mission into space. And

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later in the science report, a new study warns that future

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increases in ice shelf melting in the West Antarctic are now

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potentially unavoidable all that and more still to come on Space

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Time.

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I kind of India has carried out a successful test flight of a

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mock up of its new manned capsule which will ultimately

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transport the subcontinent's first astronauts into orbit in

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2025 the 10 minute test vehicle demonstration one mission by the

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Indian Space Research Organization ero involved

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launching a crew module mock up from the Shikata Space Center on

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the bay of Bengal Coast aboard a GSLV L 40 rocket and then

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bringing it back to Earth testing the spacecraft's crew

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escape system, the mock up Gagnon or Skycraft capsule

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separated from the launch vehicle just as planned and then

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safely splashed down under parachutes into the sea before

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being picked up by the Indian Navy and returned to land.

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The launch had been delayed by several hours due to weather

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conditions and a glitch with the rocket's main engines. Israel

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expects to conduct some 20 test flights of the new spacecraft,

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one carrying a robot before the first Cuban flights are

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undertaken in two years time. That first manned flight will be

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a three day orbital mission carrying a crew of three.

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India's also announced plans to have orbits own space station by

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2035 and place a man on the moon by 2040. This is Space Time and

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time now to take another brief look at some of the other

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stories making news in science this week with the science

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report, a new study warns that future increases in ice shelf

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melting in the West Antarctic are now potentially unavoidable.

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The findings reported in the journal nature climate change

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mean the melt will cause sea levels to rise. The researchers

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looked at a computer simulation of the interactions between ice

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and oceans under various emission scenarios.

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They say it's now likely that ocean warming in the region is

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already locked in at about triple historic rates. The

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findings mean that some degree of sea level rise is also now

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locked in. But more research is needed to fully understand

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exactly how much the West Antarctic ice sheet will

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contribute, see the ice sheets already floating on water.

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So the displacement shouldn't make much difference. But as the

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ice sheet melts, it allows more glacial ice from land to flow

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down into the sea, the authors say the West Antarctic ice sheet

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is the largest but not the early contributor to sea level rise.

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And other ice sheets may respond differently to climate change.

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Vegetarianism, maybe partly related to your genes. According

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to a new international study of more than 33 genomes, the

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study indicated 34 genes potentially are involved with

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vegetarianism. The findings are reported in the journal one

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compared genomes from 5000, 324 strict vegetarians to 329

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non vegetarians and identified 34 genes that may contribute to

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choosing to have a vegetarian diet.

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The authors found that several of these genes have important

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functions in lipid metabolism and brain function. This raises

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the possibility that differences in how the body processes,

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lipids and the resulting effects on the human brain may influence

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whether someone's willing or even able to choose a vegetarian

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diet.

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A new study has shown that the now arid zone of the Eastern

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Mediterranean was once a region of green savannahs and

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grasslands that provided an ideal passage for modern early

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human movements out of Africa. The findings reported in the

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journal science advances supports the growing consensus

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for a well watered Jordan Rift Valley that funneled human

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migration into Western Asia and Northern Arabia.

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The present harsh environment of the Levant in Arabia are the key

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regions through which early hominids. The genus Homo

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including Homo sapiens had to pass through when leaving Africa

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and moving to Eurasia between 129 and 71 years ago.

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Scientists successfully integrated the chronometer data

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along with paleo climatic records to examine this

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corridor.

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The record is associated with the formation of the paleo

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wetlands which is associated with stone tools that have been

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found in the area. Some dating back some 84 years, new

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super smart A I Chips by Qualcomm Optus shows how to make

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your house smarter and the iconic ipod turns 22 with the

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details on those stories and more, we're joined by technology

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editor Alex Sarov Reut from tech advice. Do live.

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Yeah, they're talking about how the A I component is 98 per cent

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faster with 40 per cent more efficiency. If you ask it, for

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example, to make an image using stable diffusion where you just

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type in something in text and get it to then create a

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photograph or an oil painting or some sort of image that would

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have taken 15 seconds to create the image with last year's chip.

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This year's chip is a fraction of a second to that, you can

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actually have a large language model running 10 billion

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parameters running directly on the phone itself. So instead of

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needing a data center, as is the case with chat GPT, you'd be

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able to have your device running these large language models to

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answer pretty much any question.

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And you can sort of think of it in terms of the hitchhiker's

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Guide to the Galaxy, the book, the electronic book that Douglas

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Adams wrote about, you know, he prophesized in his excellent

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science fiction story.

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And in the past, we would have imagined that that would have

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simply been been like a database, like a giant phone

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book of information, like an encyclopedia. But with these

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large language models, you can actually have the A I reason and

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come up with examples of how to do things just because it's got

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so much information inside of it.

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And by the same token, Qualcomm has also been working very hard

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to make a chip that runs in a computer that can run Windows,

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that has the same sort of advantages that Apple launched

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with its M SERIES chips where it 's taken a smartphone chip or a

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tablet chip. And it's super powered. It, Qualcomm was saying

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that it vent that its chip.

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The Snapdragon X Series is faster and more power efficient

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than the Apple M Two max, which is one of the more powerful

00:21:24
chips, not as good as the M Two ultra, but still pretty powerful

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chip. And also it is more powerful than the current Intel

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13th generation top of the line chip with 70% lower energy

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usage. Now the catch here is that what Qualcomm says?

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And what it delivers is something we're all yet to see

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its previous powered chips for running the desktop version of

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Windows under power didn't, couldn't match what the Intel or

00:21:47
AMD chips were doing, but they're promising a lot. The

00:21:49
only other catch is that it's not going to be available until

00:21:52
the middle of 2024 and Apple is coming out with their scary fast

00:21:56
event.

00:21:57
That's the name of it. And it looks as though it hasn't been

00:21:59
confirmed yet, but it looks as though they're going to launch M

00:22:01
three blast processors. They had the M one and the M Two and this

00:22:05
will make whatever Qualcomm has got be once again, a generation

00:22:09
behind are.

00:22:10
Hoping to turn whole house smart with their latest offerings.

00:22:13
What are they up to?

00:22:14
Yeah, they say that 8.9 million homes in Australia already have

00:22:17
some sort of smart home technology inside. But what

00:22:19
they're trying to do is get people to learn about smart home

00:22:23
technologies to use them and to benefit from them.

00:22:26
And so this could be where you've got somebody who's

00:22:28
sitting at home and the doorbell rings and they're watching Apple

00:22:30
TV, and bang in the top right hand corner, you see a picture

00:22:33
of who's there and you can get live captions of what they're

00:22:35
saying. You can use the smart switches, you can have

00:22:37
appliances in your kitchen all over the.

00:22:41
Knowing what I've been munching on. Quite frankly.

00:22:44
Well, look, it's up to you which smart technologies you use, but

00:22:48
not only are they able to sell them to you, whether you're an

00:22:50
Optus customer or not, but they also have the O team o obviously

00:22:54
being the O for Optus, this is a push to get people understanding

00:22:57
and using smart home technology.

00:22:59
I realized how old I was when I saw that the ipod has just

00:23:04
turned 22.

00:23:04
Yes, 22 years in October 2001 when the first ipod was launched

00:23:10
with the click wheel. And in fact, at the time, it was a

00:23:12
physically moving wheel. Yeah, it wasn't until later that that

00:23:15
it became touch sensitive, but that little player could put

00:23:19
1000 songs in your pocket.

00:23:20
And look, there were other MP3 players around at the time, they

00:23:24
needed the equivalent of SD cards at the time. And there was

00:23:27
one from creative with a company that was well known for the

00:23:30
sound blaster sound card. Its not that you hear much about

00:23:32
that anymore, but they had a, a CD, a warp man sized device

00:23:37
which had a hard disk and which could transfer songs wirelessly.

00:23:41
And one of the reviews on Reddit was saying, oh lame, you know,

00:23:43
less space than a nomad. No wireless, you know, lame, lame.

00:23:47
But it's what propelled Apple into the multi trillion dollar

00:23:51
company that it is today.

00:23:52
Took them away from just being known as a computer company and

00:23:55
being known as a consumer electronic company. And it's the

00:23:59
grandfather to all the iphones and ipods and tablets and the

00:24:04
max of have today that are using what were originally the same

00:24:08
sort of chips that were in those ipods and Wallace is on the

00:24:11
website this week, Amazon is making it easier to use pass

00:24:14
keys.

00:24:15
There's news about the Australian streaming market.

00:24:18
Apple's event that's coming up very soon with a new Macs NVIDIA

00:24:21
getting into the chip making business artists figuring out

00:24:24
how they can protect themselves from A I and plenty more. So

00:24:27
please come to Tech dot life and check it out.

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