- Overview of 9 different microphones
- The unique characteristics of each mic
- Personal anecdotes and experiences with the mics
- Practical tips for choosing the right microphone for various scenarios
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(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai - Go Unlimited to remove this message) Y'all ready to be history?
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Get started.
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Welcome.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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Hello, everyone.
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To the pro audio suite.
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These guys are professional, they're motivated.
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Thanks to Triboose, the best vocal booth for
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home or on the road voice recording.
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And Austrian Audio, making passion heard.
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Introducing Robert Marshall from Source Elements and someone
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audio post Chicago.
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Darren Robert Robertson from Voodoo Radio Imaging, Sydney.
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Take to the VO stars, George the Tech
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Witten from LA.
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And me, Andrew Pinkers, voiceover talent and home
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studio guy.
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Line up, man, and boot me.
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And welcome to another pro audio suite.
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Thanks to Austrian Audio, making passion heard.
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Now, this week, we're not featuring an Austrian
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Audio microphone.
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We're featuring, how many have we got?
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Two, four, six, eight, nine.
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Nine microphones, none of which are Austrian Audio.
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Sorry about that, guys, but...
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Sounds German though, nine.
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Yes, nine.
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There's a lot of German representation in this
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test.
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There is rather a lot of German representation.
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So this was sent to you, George, is
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that correct?
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Yeah, I have a client who sent me
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a series of mic tests and it was
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a blind test.
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So he sent them, you know, just, I
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think it was six or seven mics, no
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labels.
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And it was, we did, you know, he
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ordered a mic check, you know, which is
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where you send me a bunch of audio
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files and I will listen to them and
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tell you which I think is the best
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sounding with your voice and kind of rank
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them.
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And so I thought, wow, that was really
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cool because I get occasional mic tests, but
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oftentimes they're not very consistently recorded or the
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mics are all very different.
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This was the case where the person, Tim
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Campbell in this case, did a very nice
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collection and did a very careful job of
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recording with consistent mic placement and the whole
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thing.
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So I was just going to lift it
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and use it on the show, but he
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said, you know, the script was something I
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couldn't release, but let me do another test
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for you guys and I'll chuck in even
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more mics.
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So out of, you know, just on his
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own time, just for fun, he provided us
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this sample of nine microphones and that's what
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you're going to be hearing today.
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I think there's some that sound very different
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and there's a lot that sound very, very
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similar.
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Agreed.
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So for instance, take a look at these
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two.
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Just to begin with, I think here's the
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biggest difference.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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Or?
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And these have all been equalized as far
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as average energy and volume.
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So they're not peak normalized.
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Can I guess what those two were?
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Would we like to play the guessing game?
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Well, I think the first one was the
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416 and the second one was the TLM67.
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You are exactly wrong.
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Yeah, I couldn't tell you which mic was
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which, but I can tell you that the
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first one, it was sort of a little
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weaker and a bit thinner and the second
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one was certainly much more in your face
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and a much fatter, nicer, rounder sound.
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The first one was a UAD7, the second
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one was a 320.
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Andrew hit it exactly wrong.
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Oh no, he just had them flip flopped.
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Yeah, literally.
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The first one was a TLM67, which to
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me was amazingly dull.
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What was that a TLM107?
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A TLM67.
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TLM67 to me was very dull here.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And then you compare that to this.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And that pops out and there's that 416
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in your face thing.
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I don't like the first one, I'll be
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honest.
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I don't like it at all.
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Yeah, the TLM67 did not rank.
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My comment on the TLM167 was, I believe
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it was dull.
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By the way, that's a multi-pattern mic.
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A lot of people may not know that
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mic, but that is a...
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Yeah, the U87 is the most expensive, but
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the TLM67 is over 2 grand.
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Wow, really?
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So then, what were some other surprising things
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that I noticed?
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So for instance, do we want to use
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the 416 as sort of the baseline?
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We should, because that's the baseline mic in
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the industry.
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And I do think it's the one to
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beat in this list in a way.
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There's some others that are close, but it's
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definitely a standout.
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So here's the 416.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And then here's some others.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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See, they're close.
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What was that one?
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Really close, right?
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Yeah, what was that one?
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102.
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And the 102, my comment when I first
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heard it was meaty mids.
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So the mids are back, I felt like.
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And then, again, back to the 416.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And then we got this one.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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That's the 320.
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I reckon that's the 103.
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That's the 103.
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It is?
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And that is like a better 102.
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It almost gives the 416 a run for
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its money.
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Your niece wants an Epic...
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Play the 102 and the 103.
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Here's 102.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And?
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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Yeah, it's the 416 of the two, isn't
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it?
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And then some of that could be in
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the energy of the reed, but there's...
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The 103 pops out just a little bit
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more.
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Yeah, well, that's what I've got.
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My note was on the 102.
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I said it was like the 103, but
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less top end.
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Yes, my note on the 103 was a
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bit brighter than the 102.
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This is why I like the 103 on
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male voices and the 102 on women's voices.
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And that's being very generalized.
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So then we keep on going here and
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check this out.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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And what do you think those two are?
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I was going to say the LA320, but
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I'm not sure now.
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No clue.
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What was that?
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It's the 107.
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The 107, really?
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Yeah, and it's really like the Neumanns just
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go like 102, 103, 107.
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They just get better, better, better, like here.
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So here's 102.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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103.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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107.
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Your niece wants an Epic Fun Fatty Cake
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for her birthday.
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The 107 just kind of warms up a
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little bit.
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Yeah, it does.
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It doesn't lose anything.
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And that's an interesting mic now because that
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is, that is a budget multi-pattern mic,
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as Neumann goes.
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The 107.
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Yeah, it's a very unusual one because I
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thought tonally it's similar to the 103 and
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I thought it was building the similar topology.
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I think it's got more low end.
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I think it was very similar to the
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103.
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We all thought the 103 was a little
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bit brighter and then the 107 seems to
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like throw the low end in.
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But that 107 is very unusual.
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You have to look at that mic.
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It literally has a joystick on the front
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and it has this very strange, you know,
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controller that lets you set all the different
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functions on it.
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So it's a whole different design philosophy and
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I think it's around 1500 US.
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So yeah, it's sort of a Goldilocks mic,
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right?
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Like multi-pattern and good sounding.
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Is it remote multi-pattern?
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Is it kind of a big one?
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No, I don't believe.
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It's like a, it's like a control.
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It just, they use a digital controller on
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the front.
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It's got a goofy control that's going to
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break on you one day.
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That's the thing.
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It's a little nerve wracking having something like
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that.
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All right.
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So here, check this out.
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Back to our reference.
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Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
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for her birthday.
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Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
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for her birthday.
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Wow.
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That's the 320, isn't it?
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That was the 320.
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That's not.
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Wow.
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Why am I not getting this one?
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Oh, it could be the 67, the MK67.
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Nope.
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But there is one number that's correct.
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Oh, the T1167.
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No, we've already done that.
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We've already rolled that one out.
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Yo, so one of those is the 87?
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That's the 87.
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Really?
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Really, really mids.
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Like that 87 is, it's not bright.
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I always think of mids when I think
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87.
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I think mids, not a lot of low,
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not a lot of high.
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It's more of a mids mic.
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It's a terrible mic for Australian accent, I've
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got to say, because it's honky.
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It's a honky mic.
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Oh, you know what their most honky mic
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is, in my opinion?
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Because I've heard it enough times to identify
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it, is the TLM49.
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I do not like the sound of that
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mic.
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It has this mid-range honkiness.
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I'm like, why?
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Anyway.
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Moving on now.
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake for
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her birthday.
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You said no problem.
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake for
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her birthday.
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Okay, so now we're comparing a 416 against
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a, is that the MK67?
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That is.
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Okay.
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So, and the MK67 should, you would think,
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if it's trying to be like a, you
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know, 8767, but here's an 87 to a
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MK67.
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake for
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her birthday.
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake for
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her birthday.
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And they are more similar to each other
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than they are to that 416.
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Your niece wants an Epic Funfetti Cake.
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Which has that sizzle at the top.
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Is the MK67, that's a mic I know
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nothing about, I haven't even googled it.
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I think it's a modded 67.
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So, I mean, is it a TLM or
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is it a 2?
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Is it a 2, MK67?
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You know what, I don't know.
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I just assumed it was a modded U67,
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but hold on.
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Well, a modded U67 would be a 2
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mic.
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Yeah, it's like a modded 67, I thought.
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It's a genuine...
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Does this guy have the budget for that
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kind of mic?
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That's like a $10 mic.
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I think Andrew asked the same question.
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How the heck did he get all these
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mics?
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And that's a question I do not know
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the answer to.
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I do think they sound similar anyways, and
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that's why I thought it was also that.
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Because like really, here's the 87.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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And that was the 67.
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I think they sound similar, and they should.
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Yeah, that's that one, Mike.
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That Mike's way outside of my area of
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understanding.
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I just never heard it before.
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And okay, I found a listing.
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It says the TLM67 with Max Kirchner U67
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mod.
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That's the MK67.
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So it's a TLM67 converted into a tube
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mic.
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Is it an actual tube mic, or is
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it just like a fake tube?
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It's a drop-in circuit.
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How could it be...
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If it's just a drop-in circuit, it
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can't be tuned.
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Well, they have that.
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Inward audio had a drop-in for your
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U87 that would make it a 67.
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Yeah, you're right.
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It says it uses a 7-pin cable.
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So yeah, that's what it is.
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It's just adding a tube circuit to a
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TLM67 is what it is.
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Expensive kit there.
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Yeah, you can buy one on Reverb for
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$28.50. But it makes sense that the
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87 is the continuation transistor version of a
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67.
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Yes.
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So they should have similar capsules.
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I'm sure that that tube mic gets the
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transformer back.
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The 87 is the evolution of the U67,
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right?
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Correct.
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That's my understanding.
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The original 87.
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It's a transistorized 67.
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And the one in this test is the
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U87 AI, which is not the same as
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the original U87.
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It's pretty close.
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It's just a lower noise.
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No, it's the same.
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Same capsule?
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It's this lower noise circuit.
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Okay.
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Same capsule.
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The 87 capsule and the 67 capsule are
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the same except a little bit for the
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spacing because the 67 has more voltage going
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through it.
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But I think in some of these modified
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tube versions, they don't quite put the voltage
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high enough to make it a necessity to
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have different spacing, I think.
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I don't know.
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I know there's a KK67 and a KK87
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capsule.
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Okay.
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We're going off the rails.
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What's the...
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What's the...
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There was a couple of mics we've missed
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or we haven't talked about yet and that
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we re-initially thought were really good.
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Yeah.
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So here, let me play some more here.
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So here's our reference.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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All right.
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I'm going to have a crack at this
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one because finally I think I've got it
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right.
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LA320.
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Yes.
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And that's bright.
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Yeah, very...
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That's a pretty bright mic there.
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I've got hyped top end was my comment.
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Mike, my comment was bright.
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And that's a budget tube mic.
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Made by who, by the way?
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Loughton.
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Loughton.
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Yeah, Loughton.
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So yeah, kind of bright.
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It was my favorite.
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And then let me give you one more.
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This one you can all get by deduction.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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Okay.
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That's the KSM32 then.
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Yeah.
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And that one surprised me.
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I thought it was really well balanced.
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I said...
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And I have a 44 that I like
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a lot.
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And so...
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Brighter though.
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Isn't it brighter?
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I always thought the 32 is brighter than
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the 44.
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The 44 is a pretty neutral mic.
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And the 44 is a multi-pattern, right?
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Multi-pattern.
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But I think it's different enough that they
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sound different for some reason.
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But it's a multi-pattern.
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The 32 I have recommended many times to
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female voice talent because it's very, very smooth.
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It's got a nice low end to it.
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Yeah, it doesn't hype the top end.
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It has a nice low end to it.
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What's the price point of the KSM32 compared
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to the TLM107?
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Oh, it's like half the price.
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Or 103 actually would be the better comparison.
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The 32 is like $499.
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And the 103 is like a grand?
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$1200-ish.
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Yeah, I think the 32's got a nicer
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low end.
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I mean, here's the two.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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Now do the 102.
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Your niece wants an epic funfetti cake for
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her birthday.
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I think the 32 and the 102 are
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more similar.
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I think so, you're right.
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And they're a very similar price point.
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And that's the problem.
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Because the 103 is a bit brighter than
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the 32.
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If I'm going to tell someone to spend
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$500 or $600 on the Shure when they
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can spend a skosh more and get a
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Neumann.
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I mean, Neumann.
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It's so hard to say it's worth it
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because, frankly, at the bottom, you know, unfortunately,
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it's true, though.
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Brand recognition and microphones is kind of a
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thing.
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So you have Neumann in your studio.
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I agree with you.
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They are very similar.
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And if they're at the same price point,
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it's like, I'll buy the Ferrari.
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But Shure made a really good showing with
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that, I felt like.
00:15:03
It's not quite a Corvette versus a Ferrari.
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Because a Corvette is like a third the
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price of the Ferrari.
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No, the problem is, if the KSM was
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like $100 or $200 under that.
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What's the price difference you said?
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The 102 and the KSM 32 are so
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close in price.
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I mean, they're only like $100 to $200
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apart.
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So that's the problem.
00:15:23
200 might make the difference.
00:15:25
You know, 200 might.
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I think, honestly, I think the KSM has
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the edge.
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I think it sounds better.
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I think it's warmer.
00:15:32
I think the KSM sounds like the 107.
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See, I'm off price.
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I'm off base on the prices because things
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have changed and gone up.
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The KSM 32 is $599 without the shock
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mount.
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If you buy it with the shock, now
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you're getting, yeah, it's going to add another
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$100.
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And now you're getting up there with a
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TLM 102, which does not come with a
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shock mount either.
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But you can add the shock mount, right?
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So they're basically within a hundred bucks of
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each other.
00:16:04
They're very close.
00:16:04
I think KSM sounds a little bit warmer,
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but it doesn't have that brand name.
00:16:11
Don't forget that.
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The 102 is really compact.
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And I think that's kind of nice.
00:16:16
It's just nice to have a smaller mic.
00:16:17
It's easier to position it.
00:16:19
And I don't know.
00:16:21
Andrew, have you used the 102 at all?
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No, I haven't.
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But I was thinking about the 102.
00:16:25
And that reminded me of the M930, the
00:16:28
Microcheck to fill.
00:16:29
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:30
Yeah, very similar.
00:16:31
That's a beautiful mic there.
00:16:32
And you don't see them around very much
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at all, which surprises me, because everyone that
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has ever used one loves them.
00:16:39
They sound great.
00:16:42
And they're small, so they're perfect for not
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getting in the way.
00:16:46
But I still think of all of them,
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that 416 has got that sound.
00:16:51
Yes, it does.
00:16:52
It does.
00:16:53
I know.
00:16:54
Crazy.
00:16:56
Well, it looks like the 416, once again,
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is the mic to go for.
00:17:01
Isn't that crazy?
00:17:02
I think it comes down to this.
00:17:04
We are just so accustomed to the sound
00:17:08
of that mic.
00:17:09
It is deeply burned into our psyche.
00:17:13
But you see, that's what we said last
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week when we were doing, we were talking
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about setting up at home.
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Like, invest the, chuck the money at it
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now.
00:17:20
Just buy the 416.
00:17:22
If it's the only mic you can afford,
00:17:24
just do that one, because that's the standard.
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That's it.
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Blind taste test.
00:17:27
Ready, guys?
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What's best?
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This one?
00:17:30
Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
00:17:32
for her birthday.
00:17:33
This one?
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Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
00:17:35
for her birthday.
00:17:36
Your niece wants an epic, fun, fatty cake
00:17:38
for her birthday.
00:17:40
Which one are the three?
00:17:41
Yeah, I'd go with second.
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Second?
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TLM 107.
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Oh, really?
00:17:47
There you go.
00:17:47
That's interesting.
00:17:48
I would agree with AP that, you know,
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that sound is, and well, and George, that
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that sound is right.
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But I reckon you can still fake it.
00:17:55
Well, we can make it.
00:17:56
We've proved that, you know.
00:17:58
You can fake it to make it.
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You don't have to have the 41 since.
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Well, we did.
00:18:03
We've done it twice now.
00:18:04
We've done it with the OC 818 through
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with the 4K button on the SSL.
00:18:09
And we also did it years ago.
00:18:11
The NT1 from Rhodes sounded like a 41
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.6. And the sphere fake 41.6 sounds
00:18:18
like a 41.6. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:20
You can buy the spheres now for $7
00:18:22
.99. The basic base model mic has dropped
00:18:25
in price.
00:18:26
So maybe the tip is if you're looking
00:18:27
for a mic, then that 4.1.6
00:18:30
sound is what you need to look for.
00:18:31
No matter what you're going for, look for
00:18:33
that sound and you're on the right track.
00:18:35
I just had a thought.
00:18:36
Imagine the NT1 through the SSL with the
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4K button pressed.
00:18:41
Come on, come on.
00:18:42
Why buy ears?
00:18:43
It's like an NT1F.
00:18:46
That's right.
00:18:48
We proved that.
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Well, that was fun.
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Is it over?
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