Studio Rebuilds, Vintage Gear & Reclaimed Timber Rabbit Holes

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There's that doube I lost the other Friday. Night, covered in mousetrapping exactly exactly. But yeah, no, that's not good. But yeah, so what was the motivation to do this in the first place. It actually I've been thinking about it, but then a friend of mine who I've mentioned before, a guy called Pitt who lives around the corner. So anyway, Pip has a big studio in Melbourne, but he also has a setup, you know, shipping container in his backyard down here, and he had left a load of gear in Melbourne and said, look, you know, I need to build a little sidecar to put all my outboard in. Do you want one? And I'm like yeah, So he built me one, which means meant I could get all the outboard stuff out of that huge desk that was ridiculous. I'm sure you're going to say the outboards that's ridiculous as well. But anyway, so I've managed to get all that into a sidecar, condensed everything down, I built a new desk out of some beautiful dazzy oak, and then moved the whole thing next to the booth here so I can actually look through the window into the booth if someone's in there record you know, doing a voice and I'm recording, or vice versa, and it's a much nicer set up. And then I've got a big space behind me where i can set up my couch and just sort of sit around. So much like most voiceover artist, Andrew's studio is now basically set up for doing nothing and you know, the occasional voice over if that's necessary. I really must. Let me just finish this cappuccino and I'll come voice there. It it's more of a viewing the YouTube videos than working. That's it. You're killing me. So you said you made some beautiful desk out of some beautiful are you? Are you yourself a woodwork. No, that's Robbo and also Pips. He's pretty handy on the tools you did the cabinet or a rubber. I do my own. I make all my own furniture, yeah, pretty well, studio furniture. Yeah. Ed. Woodworking has been my hobby for many years. If you could see my garage, it's basically a workshop. That's really cool. Yeah, it's amazing. Like Pips the same. He know you go there and he builds everything himself, but the stuff he's built is quite extraordinary. Without getting too personal and giving away his stuff. But the joinery sometimes is amazing yeah, when people do the fitting stuffs. Amazing stuff is the Japanese techniques where there's no nails and it's all. Tails and stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I found a very dangerously found a timber place near me, completely by accident. A couple of weeks ago. I was driving the boys to their soccer game on a Saturday morning and drove past this place. Went oh, look there's timber in there. I must come back and have a look. And I was driving past there the other day and went in and they've got like all this reclaimed timber from like two hundred year old buildings and all that sort of stuff. And I was walking in there because I want to redo my studio. And I was walking there the other day going look at that. Well, imagine what you could do with that. Look at that? Look at that. Had we built our tables when we moved out of another country and started our own studio, and we had those, we built three desks. But what we did is we found on Craigslist an ice rink was being torn down and we got the rafters of this. I see, that's cool, Douglas. Fur I mean, we were carrying this shit up a staircase. We felt like Jesus because afriking twelve foot long, just crazy planks of wood, and we had so much of it. We built three tables that were eight feet long and just bounded all together and plane sanded it. Yeah, and we still had we had stuff to give away. After that, we made of mine made a table from reclaimed timber. It was the old pylons from a ferry wharf in Sydney Harbor. They replaced the pylons and recycled the timber and he cut slabs from that and made a tabletop out of it. It was beautiful. Yeah, it's Can I tell my reclaimed wood story? Yeah, okay, it'll be quick. So my whole my old place in Topanga, he had retaining walls to keep the hillside from running down and taking out one of the houses because there was like four buildings. And when I moved in there, he said, I'll tell you the story about where this timber came from. And it's a long story, but I'll abbreviate it. It was the Santa Monica pier. Oh coow, that's cool. Say that's the pier had like taken a huge hit in a storm and they knocked out a big section of it and took all that kreosote soaked timber. Is that like oil that they soak it with? Yeah? Yeah, now you can't, right, yeah. So they were going to haul all that timber. He was dry having along down pch saw the pilot saw the wood on the trucks, and he needed He knew this job was going to be a big job. He had to sink all these pilings, you know, to build these retaining walls. And he saw that. He was like, holy crap, opportunity. This guy was the king or is the king of like reclaiming stuff. And so he bought the He bought the lot. He stopped the driver and he told the driver, I want the lot, and they're like, fine, you want the lot. You got to buy the lot. You can't take a third of this. You're taking the whole freaking thing, because they were going to drive it to the desert and bury it in a pit, not even kidding. So he had to buy the entire load of wood. But he would have sold that for a fortune. Sure, I don't know. He must have sold some of it. And like, why do you have to buy it? He just saved them all the gas. They should just Yeah, I. Don't think he had to buy it at all. He had to take He should say he had to take the lot. That is what I meant to say. So he was saving them money and he was getting all this free wood, but getting it to his house is a whole nother story because planks of water are heavy, heavy, soaked and queerer, so is much heavier totally, you know, so that was pretty wild. Yeah, but uh yeah, that's really that's cool man. The thing a really good reclaimed thing is bowling alleys. Yeah, desks, I've seen kitchen countertops. Yeah, Like they make just really good surfaces and. On a Friday night when you're bored, it gives you something to do. Yeah, exactly. It was funny because one of makes old offices in Melbourne, the building that just reclaimed a basketball court and gital floors out of a reclaimed basketball court, which is kind of weird because you've got like a blue bit here and a red bit there. That's that's kind of what's cool about it though. That's the kind of thing with the Bowling alleys usually keep it intact, so the triangles, like, yeah, you're just here's the. Section isn't that shabby chic shabby ship shabby. And the bowling hours are also interesting because they're very thin. They're not like the planks are very skinny. Actually for some reason. Off yeah, yeah, well this this desk is interesting because I went down to the timber place to buy a slab of Tasmanian oak and they had sold out. They didn't have any it was special order. And then Pip said, come by my joint and I'll have a look what's under my house. So we went there and there was in his because a big building. He's got a big factory where his studio is. So as people have built you know, music studios in there and video editing studios in there and whatever. One of the studios. They decided to reconfigure the whole thing. The people have moved out, and it was one huge, long desk made of Tasmanian oak, funny enough, and they were about to chuck it in a skip and He's like, hang on, I'll have that. So he cut it into lengths of about one point seven one point eight meters and chucked in his trailer and brought it home. So I got down there and he said, I have a look to see what we've got under the house and pulled this piece out which was covered in rat shit and rat Pierson some fucker like us, some orange lack of shit all over it. And anyway, it's amazing what a bit of a clean and a belt sound they can do. Mm. Nice, Yeah, there you go. I mean it's felt your belts under the rat shit into it into the Yeah. He Strat's the thing, though, don't you find And And I actually know from working on another podcast that there's some actually there is some psychology to this. But sitting down at a desk that just feels good, you know what I mean, Like you sit down and your desk is tidy, and you look at the desk and god, that's a beautiful desk. It makes you want to work. Yeah, you know, I really finds yeah, when you sit down like because like the last nine weeks, I've been flat out. The boys know why, and I can't say any more than that, but I've been up to my asking work and my desk was a fucking shit fight. If you could have seen it, there was stuff everywhere. And the week over the weekend I cleaned it up and I sat down this morning and actually went wow, it was sort of like this way off my chair. Yeah, it's it's funny because I even want to take my amic big which is, you know, like this old analog desk yep, and I want to take the original armrest off of it and the sides off of it, which are these like kind of plastic guy, I don't know, like like the nineties, Yeah, like that soft, and I want to put rounded wood sides on it kind of make it look a little bit more like a trident if. You know that. Yeah, I know exactly. Yep. And I just and for some reason it's like why, like what's the functionality in that. It's like there's none. It just would look really great. Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing, Like even with this rebuild, because I had to pull everything down, so I had to find a new way of recording. So I went out and bought a new laptop, which we can talk about because I bought a a Mac Neo Neo Neo and I've chucked that in the booth because there's no fans and stuff, so it's perfect. So that's in the booth and I can actually work there. But it's also really cool for doing remote sessions. Where either doing source connect, which I'd probably do through this one anyway, but I can control stuff like we're doing a zoom session where I'm recording at my end instead of you every time they're popping out to make sure the thing's still recording out here. I can do everything on the laptop, which is but it's just made life so much easier. Streamline those so I. Think I think, I think those NEOs are a very good option for voiceover people. It's it's just the right amount of power, just the right number of fans zero. Yeah. I saw them for the first time the other day. I was walking I had to go and get a script made up, and I was walking through the local computer store or you know, department stores while I was waiting for the script to get made up, and they were sitting out and I was walking in the Apple department. They're really nice. Yeah, yeah, they look pretty cool. I mean you can always When Somerset walked in first time to do a gig with the neo sitting there, you went, I wonderf they're gonna do laptops in that? What color did you get the to go? Indigo blue? Indigo blue? Yeah, it looks pretty cool. It looks too, and uh, pretty cool interface too from what I saw with your photos. Oh the possible be on exactly, yeah, exactly. That works on the Neo. Yeah, yeah, it works on the knee. There you go. Sorry, Toby, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, anyway, there you go. I'm glad. I'm glad it works well for you. I mean, we're you know, every time there's a new system, a new Mac, a new anything, it's always like is it going to work? And when something's built around a rock solid, proven chipset and firmware, you know, unless there's like a sea change, like when things went from thirty two bit based to sixty four bit. That was a real you know, line in the sand. I have several products made by sound devices, the USB pre that just were bricked. Yeah. You know, you don't work a. Whole lot of the old really nice fire wire interfaces. You just can't get them to work anymore. Yeah. And that's a bummer, right. It is a bummer because sometimes they're like, oh, this is all I need. When I just readluctant to three mile double two, wrack out because I couldn't do anything with it. It was just like one point. I just be in the pack ground. I just paired up the m Audio Pro mix. It's like their version of a double two with the faders. But I paired it back up with a G four that I had working. I was like, there you go, you guys, have you I still use those things for remotes? Yeah, like I did that whole you know that Christmas concert with a G four. Again, it's an appliance when you have I says something that's locked in time and it can't update, and it still works and it's solid and stable. When will it stop being useful? I mean, you know, at least for that one particular text. Well, sure you can fashions. My old cheese grater mac is still sitting under my desk. I used it as a server for the hard drives, and I've also got another one that stopped working in the garage that I used for parts to keep the other one running, so. Screen in the studio for our server to serve up the favorite channel drives. Yeah, they're great and are good. Yeah, they're really handy. Those are such great computers. Just open them up for drive bees. That's right, exactly, Dragon. It's like really easy to use, like two front loaded CD treys if you wanted. Yeah, I only had the one. But yeah, that's and that's the other thing that they're worth keeping for because that's the only CD player or DVD player left in this house too. If I want to go back to anything that because God knows, I still got a few bunches of CDs dashed away behind me in the cover there. How will you know when it's the project's finished? DP? Do you? That is a very good question. Do you ever finish building your studio? I don't think you do? No, probably not, but no I think I I think I will be getting close soon as I get that other bit of room finished. That's it. I'm done. Well, then you sell the house and then we sell allow us not to start again, of course, Yeah, that's right, exactly tell you what this is getting Mine is very crunchy. I'm looking at my wife form. That's something else. I'm hearing feziness, crunchiness. Everything's good over here because you're far from the mic right now. Finally, not my fault. Roberts got decent audio for a change, far must It was really weird. I was like, who am I listening to you? Right now? I'm hearing the full frequency spectrum of your voice. It's weird. You See. The thing is you can't fuck with me anymore now because I can just rej in it. So yeah, that's really damn it. Speaking of region, it's a tangent episode. How much is that being used now in production? Is that making waves? So that's yeah. Yeah, I've had no need to be honest, I am the project I've been working on, it was one that could I actually did keep reagent in the back of my mind because it was one that you could possibly go sideways because it was a whole bunch of stuff that was shot on a really fast turnaround, and I sort of had it in the back of my head that if anything shit came through, I'd fix it that way. But I had no need. That's good. The soundo was actually really good. He did a great job. Sent me files and stuff that we're just so easy to work with. Yeah, God, I love that, especially. When you. Now that now that we have tools that can fix any anything, everybody gets their act together. Exactly. Well, it's the problem with the AI stuff, and we've said this one hundred times, is it's not predictable. It's really not that predictable. I have a client who uses to make his thumbnails for use YouTube videos, and I no, AI uses whatever, domin I think, I don't know whatever he uses, you know, it's it's and so he makes thumbnails. And the other day I looked at his video on you I watch YouTube on TV, so I see his thumbnail and I go, I know that's supposed to be him, but it does not look like him, Like if you if he was in a lineup, they'd say, no, that's not him. You know what I mean, Because it's it's an AI rendition of what he looks like, but it's not actually what he looks like. But he used it on his thumbnail. Anyway, I guess, well he looks better than me. I guess I'll use that exactly. It's so bizarre. Yeah, oh my gosh, oh my god. So what weird stuff have you guys found, Because I've found some really weird things lying around here. I've got to tell us Zephyr, which is not that weird, but that that got dug out. I've got a cold m one box that's where. Money, yeah, like like a rack m one. Yeah, that's where some bread. That's a classic. Yeah, it's old enough now to be desirable again. Oh got you. Yeah, some of those, some of those digital ones are starting to hit again, like, for example, like a rolling deef, which is like the LA synthesis one, a DX seven we'll catch some dough. But an M one that's FM synthesis, right. The M one was Corg's I forget exactly. It was probably like wavetable, not necessarily f wave table. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the FM stuff was Yamaha, like the s y fifty fives, and they began combining FM synthesis with wavetable, like using FM for the But I mean the M one itself was like one of those one of the first like sample based ones where shit sounded began sounding really real. Yeah, like ohky, the M one piano was like I've got a piano, so if you want any I forget who would be like. Maybe I remember we had one in high school. We had one in nineteen ninety four ninety five Range High School, and it was just the cool keyboard. You know, they had the coolest sounding patches. We in high school, we had the DX seven's and then the station that everyone wanted was the Kite MPC sixty. Thing was just like everyone wanted under that thing. The patches on it were awesome simulations of real instruments. Yea, but yeah, and one piano. It's most iconic for the nineties house music. Yeah, you think of that, it's like that's some one. Yeah. So yeah, the lush pads, Yeah, the lush pads to S S L two interfaces. I've found they just holding up your table as foot. How did you end up with two? I bought two because I used to take one with me. Fucking anyway, whatever, But yeah's too. I found one in a bag, and there's one in the cupboard. What else did I find? It's really kind of weird. I can't think off the top of my head. You're i SDN box, you said, d N box. Yep, Oh I know what I've found. Yeah, I've got a Betam max Ooh and really, but I felt to take the batteries out the remote control and that thing. It looks like a balloon now, so I think that's going to be that's gone. I couldn't even open up the battery compartment. It's just like you. Should get one attachment to it and then record some adio onto it. Yeah. Actually, I'm curious because I've got so many beta tapes here because I did get a service twenty years ago. All those things like start catching value because like trying to find a working even a working DAP machine these days can be a project. My. Stereo, my JBC Hi Fi boom box, like no, no, no, no, it's it's a series A. So it's got to set obviously, an amplifier with the smiley face amp, cassette, tuna and a recordplainant turntable. Yeah, all built into one. No no, it's actually separate boxes, but it would. I bought it as one thing. Yeah, okay, so that's pretty cool. So that's going to be getting used when I'm here between YouTube videos. Yeah, well they. Yeah, it's interesting. What's this beat? I don't know? Well, I know, ID is that something from them? Something something I should It said it was, but it says it was made with an f a foot loop studio contacting chord voice samples. Yeah, that's what. I'll tell you. How you know the M one is is a classic because they have I believe they have pluginized the M one Yeah. Oh I'm sure. But who's licensing at Cork directly? Yeah? Cork? I think corek is well no, no, maybe not. I mean who those guys Aria, oh A Toria, they do all the classics since and whatnot? Yeah, they yeah, they've they've been beginning to model the digital ones, you know, like the like the fair light. They they've got models of fair light makes a model or is it? I saw that at NAM someone had a fair light model. Someone also has a sinclavier model. It's like all the classics coming back. Someone about the ones worth them? Probably worth a little bit less because it's the rack. But I'll bet you I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a guess and I'll go onto eBay. I'm gonna guess that thing's worth four hundred bucks. It's four hundred US yeap okay worth asle selling? Yeah yeah, okay, So I should ask you that, ap, what is your threshold of pain for selling shit? Very high? There's this there's a certain there's a certain price point where you're like, eh. Fuck it. It's funny. It's funny because I'll got that big ee disk, which is the thing that I've had it all the gear in, which is just ridiculous. So is it a single rackspace or do it double rack space? To double I'm looking one right here on Cork M one rack module with samples and popular Mexican music. I don't know why they say that it's popular on Mexican music. Though. There's another guy trying to sell one for four fifty, so I was pretty close on that mark. But there's two of them money, but one song for nine to fifty four fifty, another one for four ninety, the Cork M three, which is not the M one. That thing's one hundred and eighty bucks. Another M one rack for five seventy one by it. Now that's Tomium one. Yeah. AI here is saying nine hundred to thirteen hundred Aussie dollars for a clean service or expanded unit. Okay, I'll get that on Facebook marketplace then, and not bad. It's almost and you can go and buy something else for the studio. What did you trade it for? Do you remember a mic? It sounds like you made a good trade. Yeah, well it was actually an expensive mic though. It was a jay z oh yeah, the nine mic forty seven. I think I swooped it out for said that fifteen hundred US. I think, yeah, maybe let's see Jays forty seven. While you're talking I'll play back the entire drum kit from another one. Thank you, George Andrew, Andrew, I think you made a pretty equal trade here. The V sixty seven from jay z Yep is a six hundred and fifty dollars mic. Oh did that was what I swapped the sixty seven because I swapped the forty seven with a guy in Melvin to do it get a full one six. There's there's one in the box new that someone wants eleven hundred four. But yeah, it looks like they're they're nice too, wooden box. They come in very nice. Maybe there's another guy that seems to want fifteen hundred bucks. Maybe that one for is that by it? Now you can want whatever the hell you want. All I ever look at is the completed listing. Yeah, yeah, I would see what the actually say. That's a really good point. I know in bicycle and you've got stuff on there and it's like I know what I have. You're like okay, yeah, and that. The answer is you still have it. There's dream and reality two different things. Yeah, so that's there. What else I found? I found a pair of Sandhaiser in ears yone was talking about this. Yeah, I forgot I had those that they're they're lying around? Yeah, what else? Is there some panties back there? Only mine? Oh yeah, that's right, wife fronts. I mean the panties were used as a pop screen, right, that's that's yes. What did you think? That's off the top of my head. That's all I can remember finding. Yeah, I've got so many mic stands. I have no idea why I've got so many music stands. I've got too many of those as well. You might have to record a choir one day. Yeah, well, I can certainly supply mike stands and music stands for them. That's right, exactly, or in an orchestra. I was hoping to to tell you what my weird thing that I found by just playing a sound from it. But I don't have any Noble batteries. Oh yeah, And I was gonna say, you've got the corgan. You don't even have a controller for it. I've got a keyboard, so it goes straight into a keyboard. You do have a keyboard, yeah, it. Mediyah, a MIDI controller. Yeah, what kind of keyboard. That's a very good question. I can't remember sound something from memory. It's not in here. It's I put it into the shed because it was taking up too much room. But there, what's a discussion had that? Because I know there's a guy in town who's desperate to get a studio because you have one in Melbourne's got nothing here and that's quite a bit of post and I'm kind of thinking, you know what, maybe you would like to come and work from here for a price and then just rent the joint out as well. There you go living and soundos town or something. Yeah, everybody there, you just have something else around to talk to you. Yeah, well no, because I've become so fucking. Nikky about how you have your staff. Oh you just can't be bother talking to people. And also they always do stuff but you don't don't touch that? What do you do? Why are you adjusting the levels on that? Or if the guy comes over the work you can be like I don't like that sound? Yeah yeah, yeah, And all of a sudden I come in to do a Giguck, what where's that gone? Yeah? Yeah, And the temptation would also be there to go who the fuck voiced that? Yeah? What's that? Yeah? Can I why can't you pronounce that word properly? Better than that? But for me to go and do that properly for you, mate, I mean, come. On, yeah, yeah exactly. So, yeah, it is tempting, but it could also be really annoying. Yeah, I think it would be. I think it would become annoying. But I can't imagine access. Can you can someone get into your studio without going through your living room where. You're it's a separate building. Yeah, it's a separate building. Yeah. Oh wow, posh. Yeah it wasn't garage, but it's not anymore. Yeah, but I know because I thought about renting out my booth too, and it's just like the idea of people coming around a lot. I can't imagine sharing my space with anybody. There really wasn't that much traffic, right, George. No, there was not, And then people need it when they need it. I'm like, oh, you need it now. I'm at the beach. I'm riding my bike. Yeah, I'm humping my girlfriend. That's right. I mean, let's be honest. If we're not in the studio, you're usually doing something else anyway, because I mean, you know, you spend so much time in here that you when you do get out, you want to go and do something yeah, you guys. Sometimes I go in the house and watch YouTube videos, but usually I'll do it from here. YouTube YouTube videos. Did you guys see my new piece of equipment on the shelf right here that you guys can see a drawing or something? That? Is that an at your sketch? Yeah, it looks like it. It looks like an old monitor. Oh, he has a just like fourteen inch computer monitor with the CRT removed and a picture of me poorly sprawled on a piece of cardboard. It stuck. I can't see it. You're all small. I can't see that. George. You remember the days of working on those things? My god, except you look like Dennis the Menace. I remember spending two hundred and fifty dollars on a six forty by four to eighty monitor. I remember spending one thousand dollars on a big nineteen inch monitor that was a pain in the butt to carry. Thing was heavy. Well, i'll tell you, I'll circle back to modern times. One of my clients has the Apple display whatever the current ones called call is it called the studio display? I think that's what they call it, not the pro one that was like five grand. But it's like a sixteen hundred dollars Apple Display. She's had to get it fixed twice. Now really really, yeah, this is the absolute worst deal in all of all Apple products. While the Neo is an incredibly good value, the Apple Display is a terrible value. And I'm never like, you know, it's like a lot of the Apple accessories, you know, like the keyboards really nice, but they're not nice enough for the extra price. Ye. It's well, the trackpad I can't replace because nobody makes a trackpad that does exactly what the Apple. Track true does. Tails like the Apple If if you look at an iPad and then they make this stand slash keyboard for it, It's like, are you kidding me? I think that stand keyboard is like four hundred dollars or three hundred dollars. It's like, forget it, buy a back book Neo. Yeah. Yeah, Well I got some crazy free stuff too. My client I was getting rid of things that you know, he can't give his kids because he doesn't have any He gets the stuff. So I walked out of his I walked out of his house with an Apple High Fi. And if you guys don't know what that was, this is Steve Jobs. His baby. You know. In two thousand and six he said, this is the only speaker I listened to, and he came out with the Apple High Fi. It only has a line in on the back and a thirty pin iPod doc on the top. That's it. Fortunately, you can buy a Bluetooth adapter that plugs into the thirty pin turns out to a Bluetooth speaker, and I. Have it for twenty bucks. Yeah. But so anything you have laying around that has that thirty thirty pin you can now breathe new life in twitch, which just. Solved my public because I actually do that. That is well, there is also there is also because I bought one the thirty pin to lightning adapters because that that Eleasis that you gave. Me, Yeah, well that on this thing I had it was one of those clock radio things that used to dock your phone on. And I want to use it in the boys bedroom because they want they want to be able to play music. And I've had this thing lying around forever and I thought, great, it solves two problems. Gives them a clock in their room so their bedtime, school time, blah blah blah and all the rest of it. And now I thought, oh, how's that going to work? But you're in every. Hotel in the United States almost things, So yes, you can PLoP a Bluetooth adapter for twenty bucks US and turn it into something useful. Again, So Steve Jobs didn't care about stereo. He just wanted one speaker. Nobody cares about stereo anymore. Tonight just went out and spent seven hundred dollars on some JBL party speaker thing, right because she bought an outdoor movie projector when the kids have birthday parties. Yeah, it's like a big thing, and it's just it's just a big space. No one cares about stereo. And what what is it these days with putting freaking colors on the speakers? Yeah, in time, and. Yeah, I think it's the dumbest, like, let's make our speaker look cheap. Did it also come with a wireless handheld mic? Yeah? Yeah, I know exactly what they're selling at Costco in the States for three ninety You. Know, those things can put out some serious base. Those things are loud. It's really She connected it to our TV to test it, and I just thought I was to see guys. I just went crank, you know, he blew my bloody head off. You can do the Howard Stern thing with him. Five the high Fi. I not. This wasn't as loud on batteries, which I expected, right, But I looked at the specs and I couldn't find any because Apple doesn't post specs, but the Russians did so if you go to the Russian Wikipedia page found for me by chech Ept, it said the speaker has rated three hundred watts RMS six hundred watts peak. Jesus, which is quite a lot. First speaker portable. It's a maximum output before distortion is one hundred and eight decibels. This is this you're talking about. Yeah, it's pretty serious, and you. Put d batteries in a not even It's got like a six inch or five inch driver in the middle for the base, and then it's got two full range one full range driver on each side for the stereo and a tweeter or it's two way, but it has it's stereo. So it has a two speakers like a boombox. This sounds of like a medium small boombox. And then the center of it is the Wolfer. Because this thing was seven and six six hundred dollars US, which is why it didn't sell. Everybody's like, I don't want a six hundred dollars speaker. But and this is before Bluetooth, and it wasn't that portable. Runs on six D battery but you know. Wait, you can't plug it in the wall. You can, Yeah, it plugs in. My client even had the bag for it. Nobody has the bag for it, but I have the bag for it. And it has a flap that zips open, so you can leave it in the bag and use it without. It doesn't have grill protectors for the speakers or is it just tears of speakers. Yeah, it's got a grill over the speakers. You guys can't see, but here's the grill and there's the drivers. Yeah. Yeah, sorry, it's got poor. But interesting no tweeters, I mean, no tweeters. These are full range drivers and they're pretty It's it's a very mid range forward speaker. I'll just tell you that it voices anything with vocals like Clear. The vocals are for real reasons, Crystal Clear, Like I was listening to Sarah McLaughlin lately. If you want to hear a nicely produced albums, latest album, well, everything she's done is beautifully recorded and produced, but the latest album is particularly interesting. I was reading about it, I think in Recording or Mix or one of those magazines, you know, and reading the engineer who produced it, and hearing the detail of work that went into producing its tonal palette, you know, just all the sounds. It's not just conventional instruments. There's like all kinds of layer layers of stuff. But anyway, it's it's a fun speaker. I don't know where I'm going to put it, because I already have speakers in literally every room of my house times more than one. Where was Sara mclin's album recorded Was in Canada? Yeah, yeah, perhaps it was recorded in the studio. Yes, it was as supposed to. Indeed it was. Yes, only the best, only the best. Mike, my college engineer professor at Virginia Tech, was obsessed with Sarah MacLachlan even back then, and I think it was because this stuff was so beautifully Yeah. I saw her in concert play with the Chicago Symphony because her keyboard player is a Source connect user and just one of those things you know every now and then, like there's some sweetheart person and the guy remembered that we were in Chicago and he's like, hey, I'm in town and got some tickets and I was like, let's go Sage and that was that was pretty awesome to see. Yeah. Yeah, oh, no doubt. She's a good performer. She's got a great voice. Yeah, beautiful sound, beautiful tone, interesting songwriting. You know, not everybody's pucked up of tea, but you know. I sometimes I get past the songwriting just to hear the music. I think that's the worst thing that happened with her is she got a little bit too associated with the like, look at this cute dog. Don't you want to adopt it? Oh? You mean her music just got well. She got used on some sort of spot for like save the Dogs, and it just got played into like oblivion. Yeah, but was that beating the dog? Yeah? Wow, that's low, isn't it. Dude? That thing is paired up perfectly with its vintage player. Yeah. I mean that's what's on the that's what's on the player. My client likes classical and soundtracks, so that's what's all. That's his iPod too, Yeah, that's his iPod. Oh wow, it still works. You know, that little sparkling intro interes sting reminded me, I remind you. But do you remember mister mister do you remember mister mister broke. Sun down these Roads? And they're an Australian band, aren't they think that? I think that I weren't here. I weren't really Yeah, that you were paying they were Australian. That one well curious this song that that that reminded me of. But yeah, that's so on, that's right. There was so much beautifully produced music of that era. There was a club of like trench court wearing beast players. I don't know, I don't know what it's like over there, but eighties music here is just has never gone away. I hate to say this, but mister and mister actually from Arizona? Are they really from Arizona? Really about there you go? But yeah, it's never really gone away here eighties music, and I firmly believe. Look, I mean, I think there's a couple of things, but I mean the thing that really I find interesting is when you talk to these guys and mostly they're Aussie bands that I've met, but they all used to jam together right before they became bands or even when they were bands, right, they were just jam they'd just get together and play, oh check this out, you know, blah blah blah. They played for the love of it. And I wonder now whether there's this because there now there's this complete flip. It's just all about you know, do I look good? And how do I make money? That? Well? That and producer, yeah, and producer. But the whole music side of thing has gone. Yeah, there's no I mean, the ones that are playing together tend to be more of some of the metal stuff, but the pop stuff isn't so like the pop stuff is all over dubbed and built up by a producer, more so these days. But there's still some indie rich. I mean, it's you're gonna dig. No, I'm not very completely, but there's just no like there's no Eagles, there's no Beatles, there's no there's nothing that has any longevity. If you go back in the last twenty years, there's a couple maybe Taylor Swift, I suppose, and a couple of others. But when you look back further than that, there's all these bands like AC DC, Metallica, blah blah blah, you could name it, that have this longevity that still existent today. But when you go back the last fifteen years, there's really only one or two I don't know. You can you can go back and you can see radio heads got longevity. Yeah, I wouldn't say just eighties, eighties and nineties definitely and you know that. But what's call right now among my kids are in aps and stuff is the nineties. Yeah right, my kids into my kids in the nine inch nails now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's good. They're into carpentry. I mean, you know that's that's that's something that they can happen now. That's what I say is a full circle conversation. There is the the pro Audio Suite and Austrian Audio recorded using Source Connect, edited by Andrew Peters, next by Robbo. Got your own audio issues just ask Robbo dot com. Tech support from George and the Techew. Don't forget to subscribe to the show and join the conversation on our Facebook group to leave a comment, so just the topic or just say good. Drop us a note at our website our audio dot com