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Now, onto the topic for today's podcast, yes,
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it's the old AI bandwagon.
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So, you know, we all know there's a
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good side and there's a bad side to
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AI.
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The good side is the way James Earl
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Jones signed over his, or licensed his voice
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to Disney.
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So his family or the trust or whatever
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get paid every time they use it.
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What a legacy though, too.
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Imagine that.
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For generations to come, your voice will still
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be heard.
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That's amazing, isn't it?
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When you think about that.
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It's kind of weird, actually.
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I'm not sure about that.
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Anyway, but on the flip side, and this
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was something that popped up, I saw a
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couple of weeks ago.
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There's a guy called Paul Sky Learman and
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Linear Sage.
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They were listening to a podcast about AI
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and it was an interview with an AI
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powered chat bot with text to speech.
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The AI had Paul Sky Learman's voice.
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So when they got home to their apartment,
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they started finding out where this is all
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coming from.
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They traced it.
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And then they found her voice as well.
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So you can gather there is a lawsuit
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going on as we speak.
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And I think the company's, well, I won't
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do the company name because we get sued.
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Haven't we covered this?
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Isn't that not stolen?
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Stolen what?
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There's something that's not protected.
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Isn't that what we understand?
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Well, I don't know.
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If there's not permission to use it, I'm
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guessing it's like using an image, isn't it?
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When we had that lawyer guy on not
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all that long ago, that wasn't the case.
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We don't own our voice.
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Remember we had the Australian lawyer on not
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all that long ago, well, a couple of
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years ago now, and he was going, well,
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we actually don't own our voices.
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Well, he's wrong.
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Yeah.
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But so what's the deal, Robert?
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What do you think?
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I think that all, I won't name them,
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I guess, but the AI companies that are
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letting any Yahoo in the world just upload
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whatever audio they want of someone's voice that
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they don't own, and it's not their voice,
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and upload it into someone's server so it
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can be put into the soup of synthesized
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voices and used as basically intellectual property, I
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think it's horrible.
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I think that if you should absolutely own
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the rights to whatever you upload into some
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AI engine, and the fact that these companies
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are basically going, like it's some porn website,
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sure I'm 18, sure I have permission to
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upload this voice, they're just enabling fucking theft,
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and I think it's bullshit, and you can
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edit out all those swear words.
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Not on this show you're not.
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When do I ever edit them out, Robert,
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let's be honest.
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Well yeah, this is deplorable, and there's an
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article in a website called futurism.com talking
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about the fact that James gave up the
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rights to that voice a few days before
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he sold them.
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Well, a few days before he passed, he
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finalized the deal, it was initially duplicated by
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Respeacher, which is a company based in Kyiv,
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and when these guys have been literally at
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war, they've been in their bunkers writing software.
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Well, do you know what other software these
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guys are writing in their bunkers?
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Source Elements, I'm guessing.
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Yeah, there's a lot of very smart, and
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people that don't have a lot of other
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good things to be doing right now in
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Ukraine, coding.
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But then it also turns out that another
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voice from the same film, from Star Wars,
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his voice got used, and 22 years after
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his death, the character was Grand Moff Tarkin.
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Yeah, Governor Tarkin, he was the guy who,
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in the original Star Wars, who blows up
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the Tatooine.
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Yeah, the claim is that Cushing told him
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prior to his death in 1994 that nobody
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was to digitally recreate his likeness without his
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express permission.
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This is 94.
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Disney claimed in its response that it paid
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Cushing's agent to use his likeness to revive
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the Tarkin character in Rogue One, and that
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Francis was seeking unjust enrichment when suing, I'm
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sorry, I didn't mention who Francis is, that
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must be his agent, or lawyer, maybe.
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Kevin Francis, a producer who worked with the
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late actor Peter Cushing, is suing.
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Interesting.
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He won 650 grand, and that's in court.
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Now there's like, you know, whatever Jones signed
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on a contract for his feature is probably
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better than when he got paid for the
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film in 1977, which is like seven grand.
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Jesus, I mean, you know, Disney have got
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it forever now, so you can only imagine
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what the figure might be.
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If you did a dodgy contract, and you
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just did a flat fee without residuals, you'd
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be kidding yourself.
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You know who I want to know what
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they earn, and I also want to know
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if it's a real voice, you know that
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TikTok voice, that, these guys are a rage,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, do you- Oh,
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yeah, but that's used a lot, I'm so
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tired of hearing it.
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Because if that's an actual voice, and not
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sort of synthesized, I hope he made some
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good money out of selling his voice, because
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Jesus, it's just everywhere, every second video.
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I doubt it.
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The first voice of TikTok, you know, we
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did that story, right?
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She sued them, because they stole her voice,
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and you know, she went out of court,
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she settled out of court, but Bev Standing
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is her name, she's a Canadian actor, and
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you know, that was sort of a watershed,
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in a lot of ways, and I don't
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know what's come of that, but you know,
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there's other- Well, she got something, at
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least, but I don't like sometimes when people
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settle out of court, when companies do dubious,
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illegal things, because it just hides it all,
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and makes them seem- I know, but
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all you do is feed the lawyers, too,
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that's the other problem, though.
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Give them a bucket of money, when you
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could just be going, well, thanks, I'll take
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that.
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I'd like to see a company like TikTok
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get bled dry.
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I will say this, my friends at Nava,
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you know, Tim Friedlander and Karin Kilfrey, they're
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doing the work here in the US, they're
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going to Congress, they're going to, literally, the
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war room, like two, three weeks ago, Tim
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and Karin were in the war room, that's
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where they had the meeting, to discuss this
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stuff.
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So they're trying to find ways to protect
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actors' likenesses, and they are, of course, getting
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the government involved, because that's what we need
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here, is laws to protect people from exploitation
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by corporations, and so they're trying to do
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that, and we'll see what comes of it,
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and it's because they're getting money from Nava
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members, the National Association of VoiceOver is getting
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paid dues, and they're using that dues to
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do stuff like this.
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I hope it works out, I hope it
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really does make change, and I hope that
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people's- Why isn't SAG on the forefront
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of that?
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They're a slow-moving, giant, you know-
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We've got the same thing here, we've got
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a body called AVA, the Australian Association of
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Voice Actors, they're doing exactly the same as
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NAVA, or Nava, so they're meeting with governments,
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they've had a couple of meetings, and it's
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been tabled in Parliament as well, about all
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this AI stuff, but that was my question,
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why is our union not doing it?
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What does your union do, though?
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Think about how many people are involved in
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steering what happens in the union, right?
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Whereas Nava, it's really like two or three
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people taking actual action on the behalf of
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thousands, you scale it up to the union
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where it's hundreds taking on the actions of
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millions, it's just a slow-moving bureaucracy crap
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fest.
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I think it's straight simple, it's plagiarism, if
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you quote somebody, you have to give them
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credit, and sucking in a bunch of information
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that's not yours and turning it into code
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is theft.
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I agree.
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Well, it's funny, because before we started recording
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this, you were talking about a friend of
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yours who ended up on, was it Kanye?
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You were talking about a Kanye song?
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Yeah, he has one particular line in the
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song Gold Digger, it's the line, get up,
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get down, that guy that says that line.
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And so he was recorded in what context?
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His father.
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His father was in a soul funk band
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in the 60s, and a lot of rappers,
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like, get up, get down, found that sample,
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they liked it, Kanye put it in Gold
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Digger, and he got sued, and he won,
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you know?
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So the fella beat, the fella won over
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Kanye and got paid by Kanye's team.
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It's like Kanye took it out and used
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Ani instead, get down, get out.
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But it's like, if you talk about that,
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so you get a royalty for that, for
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someone taking your voice, for using it in
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the song, someone gets your image and uses
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it, then you can sue them for using
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your image without permission.
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And you know, the whole thing that's going
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on at the moment with the Trump thing
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with Foo Fighters and Taylor Swift and all
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those people, they're all suing him for using
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their music without permission, but for some peculiar
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reason, it doesn't seem to be illegal to
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use or sample my voice or any other
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voice actor's voice for an AI.
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It's weird.
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Because it's never had to be, though.
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That's the thing.
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I mean, we, you know, and we all
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know the law doesn't keep up, and I'm
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not defending this at all, because I totally
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agree with Robert.
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I mean, you can't just do this.
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I'm not saying I disagree, but I think
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the problem is that this is all so
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new that the law just hasn't had a
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chance to keep up and sort of go,
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okay, well, we need to change here.
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It's not new.
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You know?
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Theft is old.
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It's like, I don't know, prostitution and theft,
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like the first two.
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Yeah, but you know what, it hasn't been
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as prevalent, I mean, how long since, you
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know, it's been a good few years that
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we've talked about this now, okay, it's probably
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three or four years, but I mean, in
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legal sense, that's the blink of an eye,
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you know?
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And it's like, it needs to keep up,
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and I think that's where Nava and Ava
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and, you know, their little twin sisters, you
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know, need to sort of get on to
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government and make, and yeah, and protest for
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change, absolutely.
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It doesn't need to change.
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It just needs to, people need to realize
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it falls under the oldest goddamn law, which
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is thou shall not steal.
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Yeah, but that's the problem at the moment.
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It's not stealing.
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That's the thing.
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It is.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's still stealing, and I don't know why
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they're just, the law doesn't see it as
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stealing.
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That's the thing.
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The law doesn't specifically say you can't do
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this.
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You've still got to go to court and
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prove your case.
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That's the problem.
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The law doesn't specifically say you can't do
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this, and that's the issue.
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Okay, and that's why Bev should not have
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settled out of court with TikTok.
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Well, true.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, you can't put it all
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on her either, I mean, Jesus, can you
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imagine the stress and everything else that she
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must have gone through to get to that
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resolution, you know?
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It's like...
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If she didn't, then there would have been
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an official conviction on the books and a
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precedent.
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I agree.
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But I totally can see where Bev went,
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fuck that, they're throwing a good amount of
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money at me, I'll take that, that's all
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I was after in the first place, thank
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you very much, you know, I get that.
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Yeah, it's pretty scary.
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Yeah, I get it as well, but it
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would be nice to actually have set a
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precedent in court.
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I think the precedent could be set in
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the fact they settled out of court, so
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I gather you could probably still use that.
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Well, you know, he said, we're not admitting
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guilt, we're just paying her off for all
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the bullshit we did.
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Yeah.
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It's like, well, isn't that admitting guilt if
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you're paying her off, because if you didn't
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do anything wrong, why are you giving her
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money?
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Right.
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Well, just to wrap it completely in a
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circle, going back to James Earl Jones, did
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you know that the rumor is, is that
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when you hear on CNN, the voice of
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James Earl Jones saying, this is CNN, that
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that was stolen.
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Really?
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Really?
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Yes.
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What?
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Not that they stole his voice, that it
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was one of those things, you know, when
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a celebrity goes to a radio show and
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they're like, can you do a liner for
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us?
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That's what it was.
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And guess what?
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Yeah.
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He became, this is CNN on CNN.
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And that voice was used over and over.
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And eventually one of his people was like,
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uh, yo, what the hell?
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Pay us.
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Pay us up, motherfucker.
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Hang on.
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Can we take a step back?
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So are we saying that because he agreed
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to record that line for CNN, that that's
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stolen?
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Is that what you're saying?
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Well, that's, this is a gray area.
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Because I'm just thinking, I put artist IDs
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in promos and stuff every day.
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G'day, this is Bruce Springsteen, you know, John
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Lennon, blah, blah, blah.
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I think it falls a bit differently in
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the, you know, cause I was thinking the
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same thing, but when you'd use like, you
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know, this, hi, this is- Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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It's a misrepresentation, I guess.
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Yeah.
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More than anything else.
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Well, this is actually like an ID.
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This is like a full branding, basically.
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10 years of proof.
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This is CNN.
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That line right there.
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It sounds cool though, I have to say.
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It sounds good.
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You're probably right.
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It's very wrong, but it sounds very cool.
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It's a shame they haven't got a presenter
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called Luke, because you could have him going,
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Luke.
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Luke, who should they listen to?
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Who should they be watching?
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Luke, who do we trust for news?
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I was going to say to you guys,
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I recorded him because he was also the
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voice of Verizon.
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And I was, I don't know, 20 something,
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one of my first ISDN sessions, sweating balls
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because I'm going to have James Earl Jones,
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you know, on the mic.
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And he was, two things.
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First of all, he was the nicest person
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ever.
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Like, you know, what's your name?
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Oh, hello, Robert.
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Right, right.
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Not the persona that he had.
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Like, he came on Letterman, you know, and
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they did this thing, top 10 things that
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sound cool when James Earl Jones says it.
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And he stands there extremely stone-faced and
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stoic.
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He just was like, in this character, you
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know?
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That's not who he is.
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Super nice guy.
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No, he's very nice.
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Super affable.
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I don't know if you know this, but
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he, like, he wants his scripts ahead of
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time.
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He had a, he's, you know, he had
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a...
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Does his homework.
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Well, he got an award from, you know,
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SovAs, Voice Arts Awards.
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And, you know, of course they wanted to
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get a great name on stage.
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But, you know, for a reason, the guy's
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a legit voice actor who really does his
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work.
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He's not, he's not a celebrity who shows
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up, does their own voice as a character,
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like a donkey, and then goes on, goes
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on and says, I don't get the big
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freaking deal.
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I just do the voice.
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Why is voiceover so hard?
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I'm not going to say whose name this
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is, but it's a stand-up comedian.
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But that was a lot of BS, you
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know, when he said that.
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He does have such an amazing voice, though,
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because I swear to God, he can punch
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you through the speakers.
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Yeah.
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Well, like Don.
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Kind of like Don did, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, this was in 1991.
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He did the voice of the CNN for
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an appearance.
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And then he came on the show, Personalities.
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This is an article on a website called
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CBR.com.
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You can look it up.
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And Howard Jones then started telling people he
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never agreed to do those liners.
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He appeared on the TV series, Personalities, where
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he claimed, I think it may have been
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a freebie.
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I may have just been doing an interview
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like this.
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And the CNN interviewer said, Oh, Mr. Jones,
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would you please read this?
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This is CNN.
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And that's how it happened.
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So that's a little sneaky thing.
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And you can almost say it was ignorant
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because it was 1990.
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I don't know.
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Someone had some foresight, though, didn't they?
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Jesus.
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I mean, James L.
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Jones, Morgan Freeman, some of those guys, I
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mean, they could say anything and you'd just
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melt in your chair, really, wouldn't you?
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Yeah.
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Let's be honest.
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I have not heard a very convincing soundalike
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of James Earl Jones.
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I've heard a lot of good soundalikes of
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Morgan Freeman, and I know a guy that
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does.
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Who's the guy who does Tony the Tiger
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now?
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Earl.
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Oh, the original was Earl, right?
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Ravenscroft.
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Earl.
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Earl Ravenscroft.
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But the guy who does Tony the Tiger.
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Oh, it's somebody I know.
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Who is it?
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Here's something, I guess, to throw around, something
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to think about.
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Now, if these AI laws went through, I
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wonder what that means for impersonations.
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I mean, I know you can't just do
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Morgan Freeman now, but I wonder what it
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means for even soundalikes or close to's or
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whatever that we seem to get away with
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at the moment.
00:18:04
I wonder what that means.
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That's a good question because I'm sure the
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lawyers for the AI companies are going to
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say it's not really them, it's an impersonation.
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But I did a session with George, your
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client, David Kay, right?
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And he's freaking amazing.
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He's doing, who's the nature documentary guy?
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David Attenborough.
00:18:25
David Attenborough.
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He's doing an Attenborough thing.
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Yeah, he does an Attenborough, like, you know.
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Oh, he's so good at it.
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Would you say it's his voice match, or
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would you say he's doing an impression?
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He's doing an impression, but it's very good.
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But it's so close.
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And it's so funny when he goes into
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it.
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Yeah, it's good.
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Because every time he starts a take, he
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goes, I'm 93.
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There's a sporting bet company here, and you'd
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have to fact check me on this because
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I'm not sure 100% of the details,
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but I do know that these ads exist.
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And there's a radio announcer called Mick Malloy,
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and he's famous for being a really funny
00:19:04
guy.
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And the story goes that they approached him
00:19:07
to do ads for Sportsbet, right?
00:19:11
And he said no.
00:19:13
So what they've done is they've found someone
00:19:15
who can do a Mick Malloy.
00:19:16
And so now, all of a sudden, Mick
00:19:18
Malloy has been on Sportsbet for the last
00:19:20
two years or something.
00:19:22
I know.
00:19:22
I know.
00:19:23
When I first heard that, I thought, what
00:19:24
are you doing, Mick?
00:19:24
Now, hang on.
00:19:25
But if we're going to go down the
00:19:26
AI road, what's the difference here?
00:19:30
To me, that falls under the same category.
00:19:31
It's theft, right?
00:19:32
It's got to be.
00:19:32
When I first heard that, I thought, why
00:19:34
would you not actually, say, give them a
00:19:38
disease?
00:19:38
Again, I don't think he can.
00:19:41
When we do, I've done some radio commercials,
00:19:46
and the star of the radio commercial has
00:19:48
a little legal thing that says, celebrity voice
00:19:49
is impersonated.
00:19:50
Which is the other thing about AI.
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Should it be like, in Europe, everything that's
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a GMO is listed, and there's those who
00:20:00
think that anything that comes out of AI
00:20:02
should be listed as such.
00:20:04
But in America, you don't know whether, fuck,
00:20:05
your food is synthesized or real.
00:20:09
Well, if we're going to get on the
00:20:10
disinformation bandwagon, then yeah, anything like that should
00:20:14
be under the microscope, shouldn't it?
00:20:16
Let's be honest.
00:20:17
I agree.
00:20:17
California, we're the masters of disclosing chemicals, because
00:20:22
you drive into any gas station in California,
00:20:24
and there's a sign on the gas pump
00:20:26
saying, there are chemicals known here by the
00:20:28
state of California to cause cancer.
00:20:31
It's on every single gas pump in California.
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So, we are the kings of that.
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We voted that in.
00:20:37
And it's one of those things, it's noise.
00:20:39
Nobody cares anymore.
00:20:41
It's just noise.
00:20:42
It always makes me laugh when you see
00:20:43
glue packets and stuff like that says, caution,
00:20:46
deliberately enhancing and inhaling the contents may be
00:20:49
harmful or fatal.
00:20:50
And it's like, wow, there's a revelation.
00:20:53
You mean those are user instructions on how
00:20:54
to get fucked up?
00:20:56
Exactly.
00:20:56
In other words, go away and try this.
00:20:59
Are there pictures of a baby on plastic
00:21:02
bags saying, don't put your baby in the
00:21:04
bag to play for playtime?
00:21:05
No, but there probably will be soon, given
00:21:08
this government's tendencies.
00:21:11
We have plastic bags that are made in
00:21:14
the billions in China that each have an
00:21:16
image printed on it saying, do not let
00:21:18
your baby play with the bag.
00:21:20
That's funny.
00:21:21
There's another thing where those little flat button
00:21:24
cell batteries, they're 2032s, they're the ones doing
00:21:26
so many things now.
00:21:28
They have new ones that taste bad.
00:21:30
Oh, really?
00:21:31
To stop kids putting them in their mouths.
00:21:32
There's actually a chemical and it's printed on
00:21:34
the thing and it says there's like a
00:21:36
baby's face with a frown.
00:21:38
Are they going to do that with 9
00:21:39
-volt batteries too?
00:21:39
If they put it in their mouth, it
00:21:40
tastes bad so they'll spit it out.
00:21:42
It's actually quite scary.
00:21:43
Are they going to do that with 9
00:21:44
-volt batteries?
00:21:45
Well, 9-volt batteries, it's an actual chemical
00:21:47
reaction from the electricity on your tongue.
00:21:49
Yeah, when you put it on your tongue.
00:21:50
But these batteries don't really have, they're only
00:21:52
three volts.
00:21:53
You don't really get much of it.
00:21:54
When you're testing OB or something, you go,
00:21:58
oh yeah, the battery's okay.
00:21:59
I've done it a thousand times.
00:22:01
Yeah, yes.
00:22:02
I know.
00:22:03
I used to do that when I was
00:22:04
a kid.
00:22:04
Absolutely.
00:22:05
With a 9-volt battery.
00:22:07
Stick your tongue in my mouth.
00:22:09
Do you know what Rebecca was telling me?
00:22:12
Apparently in New Zealand, they have these electric
00:22:17
fences for farms.
00:22:21
Don't use your tongue.
00:22:22
Don't piss on them either, let me tell
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you.
00:22:25
Well, don't piss on them either, right?
00:22:27
But apparently kids would do this game because
00:22:29
the electric fence is electrified in a pulse.
00:22:32
It doesn't stay electrified the whole time.
00:22:34
So the thing is, wait for it to
00:22:36
hit, then grab it, and hold on for
00:22:39
it as long as you can, and then
00:22:40
let go before it hits again.
00:22:42
And of course, you end up holding on
00:22:44
to it too long.
00:22:44
And she said, she described how it is
00:22:47
to have the electricity build up, and it
00:22:50
warms you up inside.
00:22:52
And it's like, whoomp.
00:22:54
I was like, holy cow.
00:22:57
Get on your ribcage.
00:22:58
There's a show here in Australia about working
00:23:01
dogs, and it's a competition where Australia's best
00:23:04
working dog trainers get puppies, and they raise
00:23:09
them, and they have competition to see who
00:23:10
can raise the best working dog.
00:23:11
Anyway, long story short.
00:23:13
I'm pretty sure it was in this, or
00:23:14
it might have been something else.
00:23:15
But there's this scene in something that I
00:23:17
saw.
00:23:17
One of these puppies went up to the
00:23:19
electric fence and takes a bite of the
00:23:22
fence.
00:23:23
And just before it bites down, you hear
00:23:24
this crack like an electric jump, electric voltage.
00:23:28
And this poor puppy goes off screaming down
00:23:31
the paddock.
00:23:31
Yelp, yelp, yelp, yelp, yelp, yelp, running away
00:23:33
from the fence.
00:23:34
It's very funny.
00:23:36
Aussie cattle dogs are super popular here.
00:23:38
My friend's got a mix.
00:23:39
Everybody loves an Aussie cattle dog mix.
00:23:42
Blue cattle dogs?
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Or Kelpies?
00:23:44
Yeah.
00:23:44
Blue is the hero there.
00:23:46
I wonder if that's because of Bluey, which
00:23:48
is now the number one show in the
00:23:50
entire world.
00:23:51
It's massive, massive, massive, massive.
00:23:54
Dan and Joe, congratulations, since we're on that
00:23:56
subject.
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Full stop.
00:23:57
Something in the $2 billion valuation or something.
00:24:01
You probably used to see a mate of
00:24:02
mine with his Kelpie.
00:24:05
Wow.
00:24:05
Down on, he used to take it for
00:24:08
a walk down at Malibu.
00:24:08
Oh, really?
00:24:09
Yeah.
00:24:09
They're so popular.
00:24:11
Kelpies, my friend has a mix.
00:24:12
You'd always get told off because it's always
00:24:14
off-limits.
00:24:14
Yeah, he loves it.
00:24:16
Kelpies are great.
00:24:16
Good luck with editing that one.
00:24:18
There's just a huge chunk in the middle
00:24:20
that's coming out.
00:24:23
It's going to be a donut.
00:24:25
Yeah.
00:24:25
Leave some silence in the middle.
00:24:26
We'll just put a censorship bleep in the
00:24:28
middle.
00:24:28
There you go.
00:24:28
That would be very appropriate.
00:24:31
Well, that was fun.
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Is it over?
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