- Exclusive Interviews: Robert opens the bag in whats in SourceConnect four, which is set to revolutionize how we handle Atmos and multi-channel audio streaming.
- Product Spotlights: Discover cutting-edge products like the new vocal booths that promise unparalleled sound isolation, even on noisy show floors as their VP of Marketing Freddie Gateley joins us for a chat.
- Tech Insights: Learn about the tech that's driving audio innovation, including the latest in virtual set technology that could change film and TV production forever.
- Live Demos: Experience the power of Austrian Audio’s OC 707 microphone, designed to deliver exceptional sound clarity, even in challenging environments.
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In this podcast, George and Robert explore the latest audio technology and trends from the NAB show, including the launch of SourceConnect four, which enables end-to-end Atmos audio streaming. They also discuss the impressive soundproofing capabilities of their trade show booth and the advantages of prefabricated booths over custom-built studios with guest Freddie Galey. The hosts delve into the logistics and costs of shipping vocal booths internationally and highlight Vocal Booth's diverse market applications. Additionally, they share their experience using the Austrian Audio OC 707 microphone for recording on the road and discuss the advancements in virtual production technology showcased at the expo. The conversation also touches on the extravagance of Las Vegas and the use of wireless technology to record podcasts in a crowded convention setting. #AudioTech
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(00:00:00) NAB Highlights with George and Robert (00:00:57) Streaming Atmos Audio with SourceConnect Four (00:04:35) Soundproofing Magic at the Trade Show (00:05:57) The Value of Prefab Booths (00:11:26) Shipping Vocal Booths to Australia (00:15:12) Vocal Booths: From Testing to Pets (00:19:00) Building Recording Booths for Any Space (00:22:12) Recording on the Road with Austrian Audio (00:24:17) Virtual Production Advancements at NAB Show (00:28:53) The Excess of Las Vegas (00:29:55) Wireless Tech Powering Podcasts at Convention (00:32:24) Wrapping Up and Staying Connected
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: Thanks to Tribooth, the best vocal booth for home or on the rote. Voice recording and austrian audio making passion heard. Introducing Robert Marshall from source elements. And someone audio post Chicago, Darren Robbo Robertson from Voodoo Radio Imaging, Sydney Tech to the Vo stars, George the tech Wittem from LA, and me, Andrew Peters. Voice over talent and home studio line up.
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: And welcome to another pro audio suite. Thanks to tributh, it's your freedom. The golden handcuffs. And don't forget the code TripaP 200 to get $200 off yours. And austrian audio making passion heard. Now, lots of things are being heard at NAB as we cross live to George and Robert.
: Yeah. We are here at NAB 2024. Hello, everyone. We're in Vegas, baby.
: What happens in Vegas instead of.
: Well, not today.
: Yeah. I hope the sales keep on going outside of Vegas.
: That's right. But we don't want the money to stay in Vegas. We want it to go with us. We're all here to make money. That's the bottom line, we have to admit.
: It's true. It's very true, actually. We want to show our stuff. That's what we really want to do. And then if it makes money, very.
: Gordon Gekko of you, I must say.
: Yeah, exactly. Very few people leave Vegas.
: I'd be buying everybody and dismantling their companies if I was Gordon Gekko, wouldn't I?
: Yeah, something like that.
: Yeah. Greedy's good. I'm not in on that name, but I'll google it later.
: It's that movie where he's like the Wall street guy, and he just buys other companies and destroys them. And all the union people are like, no. And he's like, fuck you, capitalism.
: Yeah. So we're. I'm here because of vocal booth. Vocal booth.com. We've done a little story about them already and what I've done with them. But we're here. I'm here because I wanted to hang out with them and meet all of their customers and help them make.
: Then it might be the right decision.
: And Robert is, of course, here with source elements, and he's helping to promote the launch of SourceConnect four, which is doing some very impressive stuff.
: Yeah, we got nominated for our best in show award. Specifically, we made source connect four. The upper end version is going to be able to stream Atmos end to end. And that actually doesn't sound like that impressive because it's possible to stream multi channel audio right now. But the difference is source connect four will be able to stream all the bed, all those channels, all the objects which could be up to like hundreds and 128. And the metadata for all those objects so that the receiving side can render that locally for their system on the fly. And then you can do that for up to five connections simultaneously. So you could have a director monitoring an Atmos mix and the stage could be on a 25 speaker system. The director could have a twelve speaker system. The producer could log in from another location and just receive on binaural and maybe the writer logs in and they're at home and they only have five. One. And all those things can be rendered locally for each system so the stage doesn't have to dumb down or render down to the common denominator. Yeah, that was great.
: Mind bending stuff.
: I think we need to add a caveat to that though. You can do all that unless you're on the australian NBN.
: Well if you have Andrew's Internet then all you can do is half a channel.
: That's right. South of Melbourne. Not so great. Sydney. No problem.
: It seems that way, doesn't it?
: Yeah.
: But seriously though, is that dependent on your connection?
: Well yeah, if you're streaming 128 channels of audio we figure on the realistic side you need at least five megs upload. But really each person and it can add up quite a bit. So we're really talking about people with really good pipes. But the intended audio audience for a product like that tends to be mix stage for a feature film. They're sitting on top of a ton of bandwidth. And then on the home side, most people's download, I mean you can get a gig download without even thinking
[00:00:00] Y'all ready for history? It's starting. Welcome. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hello, everyone! To the Pro Audio Suite. These guys are professional, they're motivated. Thanks to Trybooth, the best vocal booth for home or on the road voice recording. And Austrian Audio, making passion heard.
[00:00:16] Introducing Robert Marshall from Source Elements and someone audio post, Chicago. Darren Robert Robertson from Voodoo Radio Imaging, Sydney. Tech to the VO stars George The Tech Wittem from LA. And me, Andrew Peters, Voice Over Talent and Home Studio Guy. Line up, plenty! Here we go.
[00:00:36] And welcome to another Pro Audio Suite thanks to Trybooth. It's your freedom, the golden handcuffs, and don't forget the code T-R-I-P-A-P 200 to get $200 off yours and Austrian Audio making passion heard. Now lots of things are being heard at NAB as we cross live to George and Robert
[00:00:56] in vocal booths. We are here at NAB 2024. Hello, everyone! We're in Vegas, baby! What happens in Vegas? It stays in Vegas. God help us. Well, not today. Yeah, I hope the sales keep on going outside of Vegas. That's right.
[00:01:11] But we don't want the money to stay in Vegas. We want it to go with us because we're all here to make money. That's the bottom line. We have to admit it's true. It's very true. Actually, we want to show our stuff.
[00:01:21] That's what we really want to do and then if it makes money. It's very Gordon Gekko of you, I must say. Exactly. Very few people in Vegas like him. I would be buying everybody and dismantling their companies if I was Gordon Gekko, wouldn't I? Yeah, something like that.
[00:01:34] Grady's good. I'm not in on that name but I'll Google it later. That movie where he's like the Wall Street guy and he just like buys other companies and destroys them and all the Union people are like, No! And he's like, Fuck you, capitalism!
[00:01:48] Yeah, so we're, we're, I'm here because of Vocal Booth. Vocalbooth.com. We've done a little story about them already and what I've done with them. But we're here, I'm here because I wanted to hang out with them and meet all of their customers
[00:02:01] and help them make them into my customers. The right decision. Yeah, exactly. And, and Robert of here is of course here with Source Elements and he's helping to promote the launch of Source Connect 4 which is doing some very impressive stuff.
[00:02:14] Yeah, we got nominated for an NAB, was it a tech award or a best, no, an NAB Best in Show Award and specifically we made Source Connect 4, the upper end version is going to be able to stream at most end to end
[00:02:30] and that actually doesn't sound like that impressive because it's possible to stream multi-channel audio right now but the difference is Source Connect 4 will be able to stream all the bed, all those channels, all the objects which could be up to like hundreds and 128
[00:02:46] and the metadata for all those objects so that the receiving side can render that locally for their system on the fly and then you can do that for up to five connections simultaneously so you could have a director monitoring an Atmos mix
[00:03:01] and the stage could be on a 25 speaker system, the director could have a 12 speaker system, the producer could log in from another location and just receive on Binaural and maybe the writer logs in and they're at home and they only have 5.1
[00:03:16] and all those things can be rendered locally for each system so the stage doesn't have to dumb down or render down to the least common denominator. You got it? Yeah, that was good. It's mind-bending stuff. I think we need to add a caveat to that though.
[00:03:30] You can do all that unless you're on the Australian NBN. Well, if you have Andrew's internet then all you can do is half a channel. That's right. Malcolm L. Warnock so great. Sydney no problem. Yeah, it seems that way. Doesn't it?
[00:03:44] Yeah, but seriously though, is that dependent on your connection? Well, yeah, if you're streaming 128 channels of audio, we figure on the realistic side you need at least five megs upload but really each person and it can add up quite a bit.
[00:04:00] So we're really talking about people with really good pipes but the intended audience for a product like that tends to be a mix stage for a feature film. They're sitting on top of a ton of bandwidth and then on the home side most people's download,
[00:04:14] I mean you can get a gig download without even thinking about it. Yeah. So, but yeah, it'll take some... Your average podcast is not going to use it. Let's be honest, of course. Or you just need George's cell phone that can get a gig from...
[00:04:26] Yeah, we can get on 5G here I can get 1.2 gigabit download. Wow. Wow. Inside a building. I'm moving to the state. So that's it. I'm done. I think the towers are in the building. Yeah, no, there are definitely microcells inside this building.
[00:04:40] So it's anyway, we're trying to paint the picture. We are in the middle of the heart of the central hall. It's about as central as this show kind of gets. The main stage is about 150 feet in front of us right down the hall which has tremendous sound levels.
[00:04:57] There's music playing, there's presenters, it's all kinds of stuff going on and yet we can get away with recording in this noisy environment until... Hello. Hello. Hello. Bing-bong. Hello. UPS. We have a guest. Until that door opens you can hear the noise level.
[00:05:17] I think we should do that again. Yeah, yeah, let's hear that again. Like, two this morning after without all the talking over it. Let's hear it. Take two. Take two. Silence. Open a door. Wow. And then close the door. That's crazy. That's insane.
[00:05:33] It is really good at a show floor because I've been to plenty of booth demonstrations at shows and it's really a hard... Like, this is as bad as it gets. You know, if you were doing a sports thing and who knows what's going on outside?
[00:05:48] Maybe not NASCAR racing. Maybe not. Formula One. But who knows? Like a football game you could probably get away with quite a bit with some stuff like this especially if it's, you know, off, you know, in the place in the right place. Yeah. We've got another folk...
[00:06:04] Another folk here. Yeah. You know, a folk... Freddie Gay-Lee which we've spoken to before. You betcha. He's here. How are you doing? No, I'm doing awesome. He's the reason we're all... At least I'm here and he's the reason why we have this booth here.
[00:06:16] Why we have the booth? How many years of NAB for you now? This would be... Oh, what is my first one in 2012? 2013? I think so. Yeah. And after we teamed up... Because Guy was the first one that we teamed up with. We were... You know what?
[00:06:33] My Calvin, our owner just sent me a photo like a couple of days ago and it happened to be the one that we were down there and it says, Sorzell Mazzara is 2015. 2015. Wow. It's not been a while. Yeah, 2015.
[00:06:45] And I've been coming to these spotterly over the years but I'm so glad that I came to this one because the quality of the people that attend NAB are top-notch I mean these folks are not just creatives but they're like education directors, station
[00:07:04] directors, managers, just incredible high-level people here. And they understand the value of this thing. The first thing I'm always impressed by is when you tell them what this... This is a big booth. We're in what? 8x10?
[00:07:18] Yeah, this one's an 8x10 Platinum Plus or a double wall with an extra layer of mass loaded vinyl. Yeah. And if we were at a music convention, you might tell them the price and the
[00:07:25] sticker shock might roll over their face but not at a show like this because people understand the value of what this thing does. Yeah, but something like this. The basic one of this one would go out as seen here at an 8x10 and the Platinum
[00:07:39] double wall including all the shipping be 23,000 shipped. The shipping is like 2 to 3 grand on the top of that. It's pretty stiff but we pay for the shipping so you know that's your out-the-door price. That's what I love these guys price everything shipped in the US which really
[00:07:54] takes away any mystification of what stuff credit really costs. Yeah, like parts and materials and someone to build it, you're spending that much money at least and then double it for the frustration. I have done a lot of custom studio designs and builds with contractors and it's excruciating.
[00:08:11] Yeah. Excruciating. Like one of the things I get hired to do so often is should I build or buy? And the build argument is so strong now more than ever because construction is so damn expensive.
[00:08:24] It's very frustrating to deal with contractors not that they're bad people but their cost... You don't understand the details of like I even did it now and I had a like my contractor
[00:08:33] I said put these little rubber pads underneath the floor blah blah blah do not screw the new subfloor to the old floor. What'd they do? Yes. Yeah. Thousand screws in it by the time I got home from work it's like it's done and god damn it. Yeah.
[00:08:48] Now my floor is coupled and I didn't want it coupled. You can spend gobs of money way more than this thing for something this size and then have one screw go through a timber short out the build and it's ruined. You ruin the whole thing.
[00:08:59] That's a couple of things. Yeah. One of the things too that I've had clients and stuff in the past is they've called us they were already pretty well down the road with somebody and then they were like I'm
[00:09:08] just going to see about having some prefab and we came in they're like oh you guys are a third the cost and you can have it here this month. Yeah. Game on. Let's go.
[00:09:19] And one of the other big things for them too is they were like hey I'm not modifying my real estate so this is not going to be something I have to try and resell this pool house with a recording studio in. It's like we just take it out.
[00:09:30] That's a huge part of the argument. You have to include that cost which is once you want to sell it you've now modified some basement room to something that people don't want and then you got to put
[00:09:38] it back and that'll cost you at least half as much to undo it all. Yep. I know watching Joe Sipriano's custom built studio I designed 15 years ago essentially be dismantled and destroyed because the people that bought the house don't need it was rather heartbreaking.
[00:09:54] I was going to say if there's one way to devalue your property build a studio. Yeah unless you're very lucky. Yeah unless you actually find you're just lowering the pool of people that want to buy your house on resell.
[00:10:08] It's like seriously I had a real estate agent like and I was talking about building my studio and this and that I was like definitely do not get rid of that bathroom but all in all is like you're devaluing your property by building this huge studio in it.
[00:10:20] It's like well I'm not moving in my case but if you don't know or you're buying an investment house and you might be planning on selling it building a studio in there will cost you at least as much as a prefab booth. Yeah.
[00:10:35] It will cost you more to get rid of it and you will be frustrated by the whole process and it will take you longer. It's a serious commitment. Yeah. What's even wild too is that recently schools have been getting into that too.
[00:10:44] I had one school that built an entire second story out of an acoustic floor just to be able to put our booths in on top of that so that they didn't have to later demo all the sheet rock the family and all the studs and everything.
[00:10:56] They're like let's just put 17 big booths up here make it look like it's all one structure wood veneered and wire all the H back and everything into it but later we can just get rid of it. Do you know what one of the best tricks I've seen?
[00:11:09] You buy a booth. And then you just build the simplest wall in front of the booth and the whole thing looks like it's built into the house. It's only been one wall with one stud and one layer of drywall and it looks like Joe Cipriano's place practically. Yeah.
[00:11:28] Yeah. Absolutely. So, Jens down there in Australia. Yes. What do you guys have in mind? What do you want to know about it? I actually have a quick question about the booth you're in because every Aussie and
[00:11:40] every Englishman is asking yes great 23 grand in the states but if I want one down here what shipping gonna cost me? And I'm bull past. Funny you brought that up because... 50,000 Australian. What's that? The conversion rate is awful.
[00:11:54] NAB is very international right so there are Qatar people from Qatar, Dubai, Europe and you know you guys did you ship something overseas not too long ago? And just thinking about Australia is just this last year we did a university of Sydney
[00:12:10] down there and we did I mean containers full down there and they did a whole room full of booths and stuff so logistics are the big thing down there. So if it's something going to Sydney or going to a port city that's not too big of a deal.
[00:12:24] We have really good air options, we have really good freight options for the ocean options as well and if we do a full container down there it's really easy. We can even get that dropped off at the place and then it's almost like having a trailer.
[00:12:36] So we're talking group orders maybe get together and do a group order or something then fill a container. Yeah exactly you know we can always use somebody consolidating stuff over there so... So the shipping the 23,000 for this booth ship that's continuous US states or is that?
[00:12:53] Yep that's going to be anywhere but we don't have to cross borders because then once we do get into like Canada of course we've got all the tariffs and fees and stuff that has to go in there and somebody has to be grabbing it on the other side.
[00:13:03] It's usually it's funny how it's really not sometimes that much more sometimes it's like an extra $150 on our freight side to get it over there and that's if they're taking care of all the tariffs and all the import duties.
[00:13:14] We can do that we can act as brokers for people too though and make it pretty easy but again it just depends on the level of the... It's a really world market now I mean there are we are doing buildouts in the US where
[00:13:25] the windows and doors come from China this is not unusual. This is all happening right now so things moving between continents is not nearly... Now I know there was a little problem... Sides missiles? Yeah I see B vocal booth. It's your continental ballistic vocal booth.
[00:13:43] I'm sorry it just crossed my mind I don't know what... Filters, filters. Yeah so yeah no it's not unheard of by you know would you buy maybe a little one off four by four I don't know it depends on you know because you're
[00:13:58] sharing a container when you're doing like one booth. Yeah and we do international crates and so we can get it you know priced out just for a crate the hard thing is that that is even a fluctuating market so we've
[00:14:10] seen all of a sudden you know it'd be dirt cheap like where we can get something down there for $1,200 shipping but then we'll see it like just absolutely spike like of course we saw weird things during the whole COVID
[00:14:21] pandemic like ships that were just sitting out there with stuff rotting on it so it was just astronomically up and down so you never really knew. But we do really quick turnarounds on quotes so that's something that
[00:14:31] works it's all up front like you know order the booth and then find out how much shipping is going to be once you guys when somebody's happy with the way that the quote is they're ready to go ahead and move to the next level.
[00:14:41] We're on the phone with our logistics guys and we got it done so. Ape's just texted me he'll take a container load please. Yeah right right away. When you're all done with the container you can just line it with
[00:14:53] double wall and make a booth out of the container. Yeah there you go. Maybe we should line it with other things to pay for it. Yes there you go exactly. I think this just became evidence. Hello Azeo if you're listening yes.
[00:15:08] Yeah so what's your biggest market is it people like myself like a voice over talent or is it more studios as in you know commercial studios? I'm guessing it's broadcasters and production companies. Yeah it's funny our biggest market probably I mean if we if we
[00:15:25] wanted to talk just dollar wise it's going to be education and corporate even testing. So those are the biggest ones that are getting really big booths so some of these will be 16 by 32 feet and nine or 10 feet tall. Some companies like Medtronics or Philips Respetronics or something
[00:15:45] they'll they'll be doing really big production stuff and want to move all their testing stuff inside because they're in a bigger factory. And so this is something that they can pop up right in a factory bolt to
[00:15:54] the floor in there and have a whole way of stuff coming in and out bolted to the floor you're going to couple it and then they're going to get all those vibrations through the yeah and so again what they're all about is they
[00:16:04] they don't need an anechoic chamber but what they need to do is have all that equipment out there and bring it down to a level that's good enough for their testing inside. And so even inside of that big booth will be other booths. So oh wow.
[00:16:16] Yeah so it's a big crazy thing but again to bring a level down to another level into another level. Also we've been doing a whole lot of stuff with like Apple and Amazon and stuff too in their testing departments.
[00:16:27] And that's just one of the most consistent things that we have. And then what kind of stuff do they need? You know a big thing that that we designed for them is custom testing enclosures.
[00:16:36] And so this will be stuff to test all of their small I don't know what my NDA can let me say but y'all know what Apple devices that they make. Y'all know what Apple branded devices about the size of an iPad or the size of generally portable things.
[00:16:49] Yeah they're portable. So a lot of stuff in the testing facilities where they'll want to stack up like maybe 15 or 20 of these and have run localizations on all of those and not have them talk to each other.
[00:17:00] So they don't need like an insane level of isolation but enough to where they're just not straight talking to each other or maybe even like speaker arrays or weird things on the inside. And then even up to that so like booths that are this size that
[00:17:13] they can go in and then have stuff kind of bounce around. Even we do a lot of stuff like in the broadcasting world and stuff like the Nielsen Corporation and the Nielsen ratings and stuff to where they build living room sets inside of our booth.
[00:17:27] So they have big 16 by 32 sets and they're all dressed out and they have robotics arms and stuff but they can build all those living room sets put all their listening devices in there and then run all the tests around and they have like they have like I can't
[00:17:40] remember they run like 32 of their own little TV stations in the back and so they can broadcast to their own little close circuit not close circuit but just a very small power thing and then test how this works across all of their TV stations and what it
[00:17:53] sounds like in this living room and what sounds like in that living room and if this thing is working and stuff. So again, that's what the crazy thing about vocal booth is that we never know who's going to call and stuff.
[00:18:02] So we do get the people that you know, yeah, I'm an I'm an rarely say no it sounds like you know, we yeah, we pretty much won't say we'll say no to very little. Yeah, exactly. Parents ever call and they just want to put their kids in
[00:18:15] the booth. Actually actually. Okay, so recently I did get a call and somebody wanted one for they wanted one of our amp boxes that would perfectly fit a dog crate. And so they could put their dog in there because the dog had anxiety issues.
[00:18:34] And he could be put in there and we have nice ventilation and everything and that crate slid right in there and the dog could sleep in a nice very quiet environment when they went to work and then we had later one that somebody
[00:18:44] bought a three carat diamond for their parrot. So that thing was driving people crazy and the neighbors crazy when they go to work. And so they bought and I don't know. I mean, you don't ask questions.
[00:18:55] We just don't say no back to the dog crate one though it's school holidays here. So I'll take four of those please. Absolutely. And they stack nicely. What the children or the boots? The serial killer to the serial killer one environment to do his thing in a less
[00:19:12] yes. It doesn't get out there. We've been all we've all been eating Las Vegas hotel food for too many days in a row. Haven't had that customer yet. There was somebody who wanted their entire bedroom put in one. Oh wow. I did that. So he grabs.
[00:19:31] What were they getting up to in there then? I wonder. I don't think I didn't ask, but I don't think it was all about what kind of sound was coming from the inside but from the outside. So that's okay.
[00:19:40] They're actually was one of the writers on Jimmy Fallon's show and they were like, I get done writing after the last show is done and we get too busy and I might not get home until eight o'clock in the morning and done writing.
[00:19:51] And then I'm in Manhattan and this is a nightmare. Stuff so sent a booth and from our booths they can all be built from the inside out that nice ventilation and everything. So he just built it right into his bedroom and then
[00:20:02] through all the bedrooms set and everything inside. It's very interesting. Your booths can be built from the inside out. You can put the floor in a corner and you're not screwed. You can put it in the corner and you don't have to
[00:20:12] like build it in the middle of the room and then shove it in the corner. That's huge. I have built enough booths that that's a big deal. Like I didn't even realize that. Yeah, we put all this stuff on the inside because
[00:20:21] so many places you want to maximize your, you know, your, your maximize your space. And so some people will even call it they just have an alcove like that. That's a big thing with corporations stuff too. They're like, we've been given the area where
[00:20:32] the printer used to be and that's our recording studio now. And so yeah, no, no problem. There's no songs you get there from the front, build all the sides. And even with really short ceilings, we can build it right up to within like two inches of
[00:20:43] the ceiling and then slide in, you know, the ceiling panels so that you don't have to go up and above and lay them down and then put that final wall in there. And it just, it's a really big deal. It is. It's building your own built-in booth is
[00:20:56] really frustrating, but it's still a task. It was it, I mean, it's going to, like I'm sure you guys can put this thing together in what like two hours or something. But if you're first time on this, you're going to spend the day building
[00:21:07] this thing at least the day. And yeah, how good you are with with instructions and how far it is. You have to bring the panels or whatever. It just depends on the people and how well they're set up. They're going to IKEA. I was just saying yesterday.
[00:21:22] That's very heavy IKEA. Insulate it with RoleMops. Okay, so funny, IKEA has actually become one of our clients' last church. And we just sent him one of those little wrenches. We seem to have lost our Alan Key. Yeah, that's right. Well, you've got a few left over.
[00:21:43] It's like, yeah, yeah, what do I do? I missed. Yeah. Yeah. I totally run that wall. I've got some clients and stuff to see out here too, but it's great talking to you guys down there and always a pleasure. So yeah, good to see you, Rob and George.
[00:21:57] Of course, man. Cheers. Love having these guys around and it's been fun. Thanks, Freddie. Cheers, man. Thanks. Cheers. Now listen to the door. Here we go. Let's hear it again. Oh. Seriously, it's good. That's very good. There you go. It is good.
[00:22:14] That mic is doing good too from the distance. It's picking him up really clearly. It's hard to tell how it really is when you're the speaker. Yes. But when you turn it on him, it's good. Most of you are probably only hearing the show.
[00:22:27] This is really an audio show today. And we are using the Austrian Audio OC707. I promised I would make this my on the road mic. It's a tighter polar pattern than the OCA, I think. Right? I think so. Like I'm so we're right now, Robert and I are
[00:22:42] equal to the across from the mic. And it's still getting both of us, but it's a little more diffused. Right? Yeah. It's not quite as focused. It's got a good present. Like that's even more presence. I hear that. And that's just rotating the mic like 30 degrees or something.
[00:22:55] So it's definitely not. It's not a wide cardioid. It's a more narrow, maybe almost hyper. I think it might be hyper. I don't know, but it's I think it's doing well. Yeah. Well, it's weird because in this booth we have other mics.
[00:23:07] We have some earthwork ethoses and we have some other gear, but it opted just to go single mic handheld, which sounds old school and weird. But the nice thing about that is I can essentially engineer this. So yeah, I'm controlling and mixing manually.
[00:23:21] This is an old fell school thing, but I'm literally mixing the three of us. And because we have one mic, we don't worry about phasing and crosstalk. We can get away from the glass that's and this booth has a lot of glass because it's all about showing off.
[00:23:34] And yeah, it's working out really well. Gosh, funny she talked about mics though because the file I sent to you that was done in the back of the car with the Austrian Audio CC8 I sent to one of the engineers at Big Radio Network here.
[00:23:49] And he said, what mic is it and where do you record? I told him CC8 with a mic port pro in the back of my car. And he just replied was nuts. Absolutely nuts. It couldn't believe it. Right. Yeah. Just. So from now on, you're doing all your
[00:24:03] sessions from your car. That's right. Exactly. Exactly. Good. Well, I got to say, so I don't know how much time you've had to really see the joint. I've only walked one lap of the central hall briefly because honestly, I've had so much to do here.
[00:24:21] I haven't had a chance. I mean, I walked one row down. So just the aisle where we got a pretty good booth spot. So we're on like a main aisle, but I just got to go all the way down and back and I did see one thing
[00:24:32] that was really impressive. So do you know what a video wall is? Yeah, like an LED screen that bolts together in his modular. Not quite. More like, OK, you used to shoot stuff on green screen. But why shoot it on green screen when we already have the whole
[00:24:47] background shot? Oh, yes. So now they have this thing. It's a four thousand dollar box, which is like this is like million dollars shit. And now it's like four thousand dollar box. You can build the whole environment virtually. Or if you go through a bigger process,
[00:25:03] you can shoot it all from multiple angles. It'll stitch together. Then you shoot it with an iPhone or some camera that has a like the same thing that you use for VR. So so wherever you move the camera, the video behind you moves in the exact same way.
[00:25:19] So you get the same angle and all the parallax. And not only that, the thing controls all the lights that you set up around it. So if you turn it to a place where you say this is dark, the lights will go down and whoa. Yeah.
[00:25:33] Well, this is million dollar stuff. Like I don't know exactly how much the real deal stuff is, but this is like four thousand dollars. I've never seen it here the last four or five, six years ago. And it was extremely like science fiction and extremely expensive.
[00:25:46] And now it's it's accessible. And so what do they call this virtual sets, right? Virtual well, it's more than a virtual set. But yes, it's a virtual set. But now it's I thought they call it a video wall or something. And it just negates the need for
[00:25:59] because a virtual set, you're sitting there just looking at a green screen. But on this thing, the actors like running around doing this thing and they look behind. And if there's a character, they can make eye contact with the screen. They can act and feel it much
[00:26:13] more than pretending that they're talking to a green screen and imagining what's there. They can they can focus their eyes in the right places. Right. Yeah. Well, there's a couple of guys on here who set up a thing called Dream Screen, which you can Google.
[00:26:29] And that's the same thing. But they've got a massive sets with the whole back of the set is a giant video wall. And they've shot a lot of films there. In fact, they were up for Metropolis, the remake of Metropolis, the Fritz Lang film. Yeah, it's. Oh, wow.
[00:26:44] It's that. Except bring your own screen. Yeah. But they said it will work with projectors so you can stitch together multiple projectors and fill a, you know, who knows how big of wall. Well, they did a big thing here. One of the first things they
[00:26:59] did was a series called Fires. It was all about the Bushfires drama. And they, of course, could actually have the fires actually happening with the actors on set on the screens. So the actor, even though they had like the, you know, the car there was on fire or
[00:27:14] whatever they had, blah, blah, blah, but the screens in the background. So the actor felt like they were actually in the middle of a bushfire. Whoa. Yep. Wow. So it's. Yeah, this is this is the kind of thing you see at any B. Yeah, it's it's it's all
[00:27:27] the traditional stuff like mics, camera booms. But you're seeing way more of this virtual type production. There's there apparently 150 different classes here on AI stuff alone at any B because there's a huge amount of education that comes along with it. We're just we're just here for the expo.
[00:27:47] You know, we're here to sell but there's a huge education component. I mean, that's that's the problem with being an exhibitor is that you can't do it. You can't see all this stuff. It's like it takes an NAB. You can probably do it.
[00:27:58] It'll take you at least two days or three days to really see everything. And your feet are going to kill you. Yeah. CES is insane. You'll just shoot yourself when you're done. But as an exhibitor, you get to stand on your feet all
[00:28:08] day, but you only get to see your own stuff because yeah, busy. Yeah. So so I haven't seen anything too revolutionary. There's another company here that does soundproof windows, which I've known these guys forever called literally soundproof windows and they have an entire Connex shipping
[00:28:25] style container that they've converted into a quiet space so they can show off all their doors and windows. And it is damn impressive as quite as it is in here. Takes it down another 10 to 15 dB. That's that's like a whole another level. That's you know, that's
[00:28:40] probably a hundred thousand plus install. Yeah, you're not shipping that to a residential place and you're not building that on your own in a day. This thing's on this thing's on a flatbed truck. It's trailer then and they've used it in AM show and stuff like that.
[00:28:53] You know, so it's I'm staying a whole extra day tomorrow just so I can start seeing things that I haven't been able to see. Yeah. Because if you lose weight not it's impossible to lose weight here. That's my problem actually. You know, a six dollar
[00:29:09] word of onion rings at the Westgate is enough to feed like a starving family. Yeah. And then they don't even talk about the buffets. Oh, geez. I ate a thirty dollar omelet this morning because that's it was a buffet and all I wanted was a damn omelet.
[00:29:24] No, no. Yeah, that's Vegas. Well, let me tell you, I mean, we just had the the Sydney Royal East to show here, which is like our big carnival of the year, I guess in Sydney. A cup of lemonade was eighteen dollars. What? My gosh. Yeah.
[00:29:40] Eighteen dollars for a cup of lemonade. Oh my gosh. That's ridiculous. Well, the other thing I want to mention is that, you know, again, we've been talking about source elements and their new product. We're using Nexus right now as our communications portal. So we're all communicating
[00:29:54] real time over Nexus and we're using Source Connect three point nine because that's the version we have currently installed. Third four just dropped. And the amazing thing is we're doing all that on my laptop, right? Which is running on a battery. I don't even plug in.
[00:30:09] We're using a mic port pro, which is also running on batteries. And we're using a hot spot on a phone connecting all this via wireless to a mobile, you know, a mobile data connection. And we're doing all this. Which that is mind blowing
[00:30:25] because I've been to so many of these conventions where usually you have to come in with three separate cell phone connections and you do what's called bonding them into one because normally at these conventions when you get 100,000 people here with their cell phones, the towers just bogged down
[00:30:40] to a crawl and you have to brute force it with three parallel connections. You're just doing it like a pedestrian. Turn on my hotspot. Yeah. We if you're on Verizon here, you're in good shape. If you're on T-Mobile, you're pretty well screwed. Because Verizon has installed.
[00:30:55] I should mention the source elements booth is using a Verizon connection, which they were very gracious to provide us with and we hooked up and it was a gig. And I was like, Gigabit. Yeah, gigabit. Connection on wireless. Well, so we've been just leveraging all this
[00:31:10] technology to do shows from here. We've been recording from this booth. I've done this is my fourth podcast since I've gotten here. And it's just incredible. We can pull off these days. And and by the way, everyone, I like to point out that this
[00:31:26] in a show floor that's really loud is much better than most of the audio I give. Yes, indeed. This is a true fact. Actually talking about the amount of bandwidth you've got there, I'm just looking at my hamster and he's giving me the hairy eyeballs saying,
[00:31:40] give me a break. I'm pumped out. Yeah. So it's been great guys. So, you know, should we call it? Should we show me a wrap it up here from any. I feel pretty good. How long have we been at it? Actually, what does it say here
[00:31:54] in the old source connect time meter because we pretty much started right? Can you see that? I think about 30 minutes. Is that enough content? So you go with that? I think so. Excellent. OK, I'm watching a ton of people outside the booth that are like circling.
[00:32:08] They want to come in and they're going to start huffing and puffing and and like they're being tossing and rolling their eyes. So what's going on? We'll put up. Yeah. No, no, no, there's just people that want to come in. So and I need to go huffing.
[00:32:20] You do. I just often stuff. Exactly. That's right. All right, we're out. Yes, it puffs some stuff. More like. Well, that was fun. Is it over? The Pro Audio Suite with thanks to try and Austrian Audio recorded using Source Connect edited by Andrew Peters
[00:32:40] and mixed by Voodoo Radio Imaging with tech support from George the tech wisdom. Don't forget to subscribe to the show and join in the conversation on our Facebook group to leave a comment, suggest a topic or just say today. Drop us a note at our website.

